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Posted on 2/19/23 at 9:39 pm to
Posted by bluemoons
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Posted on 2/19/23 at 9:39 pm to
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Got the main for the drip irrigation system set. What kind of timer is recommended. When and how long do you let it run?


I use a Melnor timer I got off Amazon. It has 2 zones. I’ve had it for a couple years and haven’t had problems with it. They’re not too expensive.

How long to run really depends on your environmental and soil conditions. Mine run every day twice a day during dry periods in the summer, but that’s in raised beds with well draining mix. If it’s heavier and holds moisture better, you can run less.
Posted by Loup
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Posted on 2/20/23 at 7:41 am to
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Like an idiot I put my tomato seedlings out in the sun on Sunday and forgot about them. Some of the leaves are turning white and they look sad. Will they recover?





It doesn't look like they're gonna make it. Considering starting over.
Posted by PillageUrVillage
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Posted on 2/20/23 at 8:01 am to
I’m sorry to hear that. With the warm weather we’re going to have this week I’d start them suckers outside in direct sunlight. Won’t have to worry about hardening them off.

I moved all of my seedlings outside yesterday afternoon. They got about an hour of afternoon sun. Gonna gradually move them into more sunlight throughout the week.
Posted by meeple
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Posted on 2/20/23 at 8:06 am to
Is there a general rule of thumb on if/when they should be moved up to 6” pots? Mine are in 4” pots currently.
Posted by BallsEleven
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Posted on 2/20/23 at 8:21 am to
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It doesn't look like they're gonna make it. Considering starting over.


I put mine out about noon yesterday and left the house. I forgot about them until I saw this post. Still out there...whoops.

I might have been saved by the cloud cover in the afternoon but no doubt they will get fried today. Oh well.
Posted by bluemoons
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Posted on 2/20/23 at 9:43 am to
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Is there a general rule of thumb on if/when they should be moved up to 6” pots? Mine are in 4” pots currently.


I go with 4" all the way through transplant. I start my seeds in self-watering Orta starter pots. They outgrow them pretty quickly though and they can have a tendency to stay too wet. I just moved all my seedlings out of the Orta pots yesterday into 4" pots. Shooting for a late March plantout being that I got a late start.
Posted by PillageUrVillage
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Posted on 2/20/23 at 9:45 am to
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Is there a general rule of thumb on if/when they should be moved up to 6” pots? Mine are in 4” pots currently.


I’m gonna have to move some of my tomatoes into bigger pots as well. For me it’s when they have long roots coming out of the bottom, and the plants are tall enough to where a decent breeze will knock over the pot.

ETA: Being that I’m still about 4 weeks away from plant out, I don’t think I can get away with keeping them in the 4” pots. And I started them a few weeks later than previous years trying to avoid this.
This post was edited on 2/20/23 at 9:47 am
Posted by meeple
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Posted on 2/20/23 at 10:28 am to
Ok great. I think I too am going to have to as the roots have been coming out of the bottom for a few weeks.
Posted by bluemoons
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Posted on 2/20/23 at 9:22 pm to
To be fair, I have had some ridiculous looking tomato plants in 4” pots .

I’ve also gotten to where I’m mostly growing dwarves. So they stay a bit more manageable. You guys should check some of those out. Kinda changed the tomato game for me. I still grow a couple of full sized indeterminate plants and cherries, but the dwarves are so much easier and they production has been excellent on my experience.
Posted by PillageUrVillage
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Posted on 2/21/23 at 6:22 am to
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To be fair, I have had some ridiculous looking tomato plants in 4” pots




The only ones I really needed to repot were the Amish Paste plants. I did that yesterday. All of the others are stocky and bushy, but the Amish Paste seemed to be taller and lanky. Gonna try to leave the others in the 4” pots as long as I can. Hopefully the natural sunlight will help beef up the AP’s. Unless that’s just a characteristic of that variety.

ETA: I also wanted to ask you if you top your Jimmy Nardello peppers? I did the jalapeño and shishito’s yesterday. Wasn’t sure about the Jimmy’s.
This post was edited on 2/21/23 at 8:40 am
Posted by meeple
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Posted on 2/21/23 at 7:23 pm to
A couple weeks later and the tomatoes are still looking rough. Only my Romas. Other ones are fine.

I did hit it with the 1/2 cup of 3% hydrogen peroxide to a gallon of water a couple weeks ago. Just moved to 6” pots today as the roots were wrapping around the inside of the pot and coming out the bottom.

Any ideas what this is or what to do?




Posted by Loup
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Posted on 2/22/23 at 6:38 am to
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meeple



How old are these? Mine are at a month and are a quarter of the size. I'm thinking I need to up my grow light game. They did get stunted from leaving them in the sun a week ago but last year mine were small up until I planted them.
Posted by meeple
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Posted on 2/22/23 at 7:11 am to
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How old are these?

Planted them around Jan 13. Not sure if they are all that big at around 7-8" tall.
Posted by PillageUrVillage
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Posted on 2/22/23 at 8:16 am to
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Just moved to 6” pots today as the roots were wrapping around the inside of the pot and coming out the bottom.


Might just be that they were starting to be starved of nutrients. The plant will move nutrients to the newer growth and the older growth dies. Being that you just put them in 6” pots I’d expect to see some improvement. Tomatoes are heavy feeders, after all. Once in the ground they’ll be much better off.

ETA: Honestly, they don’t look that bad off. Not perfect, sure. But they’ll be fine.
This post was edited on 2/22/23 at 8:17 am
Posted by meeple
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Posted on 2/22/23 at 8:28 am to
Alright thanks. Been setting them out in the sun this week so hopefully that will help as well.
Posted by PillageUrVillage
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Posted on 2/22/23 at 10:01 am to
I’ve decided to try something this weekend. Since I have more squash and zucchini seeds than I really need, I think I’m going to sow some directly in the garden. Forecast is staying pretty dang warm for the next 10 days, so I’m going to risk it. I’m also going to start some inside under the lights.

If a late cold snap comes through and kills the direct sown plants, then oh well. I’ll have back up plants and more seeds. If not, then I’ll have a really early start and can hopefully get a good crop before the vine borers show up.

Gonna do the same with the blue hubbard squash trap plant.
Posted by PillageUrVillage
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Posted on 2/22/23 at 10:07 am to
This past weekend we finally had enough dry weather to allow me to do some work in the garden. I was able to do some cleaning up and I got the cattle panel trellis and all of my tomato poles/cages in place.

I picked a bunch of carrots also. Gonna have to clear this box out in the next month.
Posted by bluemoons
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Posted on 2/22/23 at 10:07 am to
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ETA: I also wanted to ask you if you top your Jimmy Nardello peppers? I did the jalapeño and shishito’s yesterday. Wasn’t sure about the Jimmy’s.


Yep, always. Though I may not be able to this year because I was so behind in my planting. They need like 2-3 weeks to fully recover after topping in my experience.
Posted by PillageUrVillage
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Posted on 2/22/23 at 10:09 am to
Good to know. I’ll top them this afternoon

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They need like 2-3 weeks to fully recover after topping in my experience.


Which is perfect cause I’m about 3 weeks from my target plant date.
Posted by meeple
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Posted on 2/22/23 at 10:43 am to
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Since I have more squash and zucchini seeds than I really need, I think I’m going to sow some directly in the garden

Are zucchini and yellow squash usually started indoors for better performance? Do they typically need a 2 week head start over other direct sown seeds?

ETA: Oh I see, you're trying to beat the borers
This post was edited on 2/22/23 at 10:57 am
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