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re: AC evaporator coil replacement costs - home warranty related
Posted on 7/5/23 at 7:30 pm to Korkstand
Posted on 7/5/23 at 7:30 pm to Korkstand
The cost of another adapter
$ 125-150.
The furnace itself ( i assume you have gas heat )
Miscellaneous support items , return air retrofit——- $ 200 abouts
Labor
If you do have gas heat, and it is 34 years old, I am not sleeping in your house. Dangerous.
Change the heater Now with the coil
$ 125-150.
The furnace itself ( i assume you have gas heat )
Miscellaneous support items , return air retrofit——- $ 200 abouts
Labor
If you do have gas heat, and it is 34 years old, I am not sleeping in your house. Dangerous.
Change the heater Now with the coil
This post was edited on 7/5/23 at 7:31 pm
Posted on 7/5/23 at 7:36 pm to EF Hutton
To change to a heat pump, you woukd need an electrician to run a 230 volt, 60 amp ( #6) line into the attic.
Depending on how many conductors are in your thermostat wires, you would need to fish new stat wires outside and to the house thermostat.
You would need a HP stat ( 2 heat w/ aux heat.
You would now have an Air handler. That brings a new water pan , styro blocks, etc. Now, the evap coil, blower, and electric heat strip is contained in one cabinet.
Depending on how many conductors are in your thermostat wires, you would need to fish new stat wires outside and to the house thermostat.
You would need a HP stat ( 2 heat w/ aux heat.
You would now have an Air handler. That brings a new water pan , styro blocks, etc. Now, the evap coil, blower, and electric heat strip is contained in one cabinet.
This post was edited on 7/5/23 at 7:37 pm
Posted on 7/5/23 at 7:36 pm to EF Hutton
quote:
If you do have gas heat, and it is 34 years old, I am not sleeping in your house. Dangerous.
quote:That would be ideal, just trying to get my money's worth out of the warranty in the process. I guess I will have them keep sending contractors out until I get one that codes shite right or whatever they have to do. I'll watch a youtube video and do the sheetmetal work myself before I put $2k into this thing.
Change the heater Now with the coil
Posted on 7/5/23 at 7:41 pm to Korkstand
Honestly, as a mech contractor i can say that home warranty will not be good for you with old equipment.
It’s best to negotiate a h warranty leaving out the central system, unless your central system is new.
The h warranty is great for appliances.
Mother boards in refrigerators, dishwashers etc.
It’s best to negotiate a h warranty leaving out the central system, unless your central system is new.
The h warranty is great for appliances.
Mother boards in refrigerators, dishwashers etc.
Posted on 7/5/23 at 7:47 pm to EF Hutton
Maybe I misunderstand how heat pump furnaces work. Is the only purpose of the 230v 60a line to power the heat strip? If so, can't you get them without heat strips where they aren't necessary? Or just not wire it up?
And would there be two coils in the attic or just one that serves as both evaporator and condenser coil?
And would there be two coils in the attic or just one that serves as both evaporator and condenser coil?
Posted on 7/5/23 at 8:02 pm to Korkstand
Heat pumps inside portion will be the same as electric heat- an Air handler
aka Fan Coil.
Gas heat uses 120 volt 20 amp.
You need 230 for the blower alone, with or without elec heat.
You need an electric heat strip because the heat pump will go into defrost mode, which is AC mode less outside fan. When it does, it activates the inside electric strip so you do not get a blast of cold air.
You also need the electric strip as backup. If it gets 18 degrees outside, those hp’s will need the assisstance.
aka Fan Coil.
Gas heat uses 120 volt 20 amp.
You need 230 for the blower alone, with or without elec heat.
You need an electric heat strip because the heat pump will go into defrost mode, which is AC mode less outside fan. When it does, it activates the inside electric strip so you do not get a blast of cold air.
You also need the electric strip as backup. If it gets 18 degrees outside, those hp’s will need the assisstance.
Posted on 7/5/23 at 8:06 pm to EF Hutton
put this in perspective for you price wise. I got two new outdoor units + two inside units + pans + heat pump wiring for like 12K 
Posted on 7/5/23 at 8:08 pm to gaetti15
I love my 2 stage 4 ton heat pump. It is 2006.
I did a 3 ton Rheem elec system for 8k
A bryant 4 ton gas system i believe it was in the 9000’s . All new sheet metal cold air plenums- always.
I did a 3 ton Rheem elec system for 8k
A bryant 4 ton gas system i believe it was in the 9000’s . All new sheet metal cold air plenums- always.
This post was edited on 7/5/23 at 8:14 pm
Posted on 7/5/23 at 8:22 pm to EF Hutton
I guess I would need to see a full installed heat pump system.
In my mind I thought it would use the same two coils as the AC and basically just flip some valves and use the outside coil as the evaporator and inside coil as the condenser, and use the same blower.
In my mind I thought it would use the same two coils as the AC and basically just flip some valves and use the outside coil as the evaporator and inside coil as the condenser, and use the same blower.
Posted on 7/5/23 at 8:25 pm to Korkstand
It does. Thats how it works.
But a gas furnace has the cooling coil attached to the end- a separate component.
Electric heat/ heat pump , everything is in one cabinet.
But a gas furnace has the cooling coil attached to the end- a separate component.
Electric heat/ heat pump , everything is in one cabinet.
This post was edited on 7/5/23 at 8:27 pm
Posted on 7/5/23 at 8:44 pm to EF Hutton
Oh ok. Now I'm wondering why a heat pump blower draws so much more than my current one.
This is all beside the point though since I have so far failed to get these fricks to pay for sheetmetal work.
This is all beside the point though since I have so far failed to get these fricks to pay for sheetmetal work.
Posted on 7/5/23 at 8:57 pm to Korkstand
It,s the electric strip.
The motor by itself, probably 2 or 3 amps.
The motor by itself, probably 2 or 3 amps.
Posted on 7/5/23 at 9:03 pm to Korkstand
quote:
One of my AC units is 34 years old
That’s impressive. I can’t get a new Trane POS to last more than a couple years.
Posted on 7/5/23 at 9:10 pm to billjamin
I've got another unit on another house roughly the same age. It has no trouble holding temp in a 60 year old poorly insulated house even through the recent heat. In the last 10 years the only work it has needed was a new capacitor, new blower, and a new control board. I hesitate to say they were built better back then, more likely survivorship bias and I got lucky twice.
Posted on 7/5/23 at 9:34 pm to Korkstand
You got 34 years out of your unit an complaining? They will piecemeal that thing for another 34 years.
Also, never buy a home warranty. Save your money.
Also, never buy a home warranty. Save your money.
Posted on 7/5/23 at 9:35 pm to billjamin
quote:
That’s impressive. I can’t get a new Trane POS to last more than a couple years.
Sounds more like installation problems.
Posted on 7/5/23 at 9:38 pm to LSUDad
quote:Complaining about the warranty, not the unit.
You got 34 years out of your unit an complaining?
quote:That's fine as long as they pay for the pieces!
They will piecemeal that thing for another 34 years.
quote:That's my usual motto but I thought I would get my money's worth this time on an AC that was 29 at the time. Never again though, I'll tell you that.
Also, never buy a home warranty. Save your money.
Posted on 7/5/23 at 10:38 pm to Korkstand
quote:
That's my usual motto but I thought I would get my money's worth this time on an AC that was 29 at the time. Never again though, I'll tell you that.
At least you learned a lesson.
Never waste money on an extended warranty.
Now, stop trying to figure out how to make the warranty company pay for your mistake, and just replace the damn unit.
In the immortal words of Andy...
"Aunt Bee just CALL THE MAN!"
Posted on 7/6/23 at 6:51 am to tiggerfan02 2021
What town are u in ?
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