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Posted on 1/23/21 at 3:17 pm to
Posted by ChenierauTigre
Dreamland
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Posted on 1/23/21 at 3:17 pm to
Haha. I was just yanking your chain. I am sure those kids will love that. Kids need to do things with their Dad. Doing things with my Dad was one of the greatest joys of my life. One time we were fishing on a steep riverbank. I was just a little kid and I was afraid I was going to fall in. My Dad sat behind me and put his arms around me and helped hold the fishing pole. It was just a small moment in time, but 60 years later I still have that memory of him.

I am going to do the same thing in the garden with my granddaughter. She pulls up a lot of my plants and picks things before they are ready. This year I am going to plant a cotton plant for her. She can pick all the cotton she wants. :not racist: She slays my blueberries.
This post was edited on 1/23/21 at 3:23 pm
Posted by BallsEleven
Member since Mar 2019
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Posted on 1/23/21 at 3:23 pm to
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I would kinda limit what I’d allow them to do cause they were just some bulls in a china shop


This is where I’m at right now.

My 4 year old is actually good. The 3 yr old though...



Chickens are enjoying the garden though.
This post was edited on 1/23/21 at 3:26 pm
Posted by PillageUrVillage
Mordor
Member since Mar 2011
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Posted on 1/23/21 at 3:46 pm to
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Haha. I was just yanking your chain


I know

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One time we were fishing on a steep riverbank. I was just a little kid and I was afraid I was going to fall in. My Dad sat behind me and put his arms around me and helped hold the fishing pole. It was just a small moment in time, but 60 years later I still have that memory of him.


Hunting and fishing with my dad are the greatest memories I have. He was and still is a great father. I definitely want to be that to my kids. This year we will focus on teaching my son to leave the worm in the water for more than 2 seconds and to start reeling when the cork goes under.
Posted by PillageUrVillage
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Posted on 1/23/21 at 3:53 pm to
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Chickens are enjoying the garden though.


I’d love to have some. With everything going on in the world my wife and I are trying to focus on becoming more self sufficient. The property behind us is for sale and my wife really wants us to buy it. It would give us about an extra acre. The problem is we’d still be in a neighborhood with restrictions. And the guy wants $30k for it. So I got on Zillow and was showing her that we could get a lot more bang for our buck if we eventually want to raise livestock. For instance, there was 8 acres about 5 miles from us for $32k. Not looking to buy anything right this moment, but sometime in the near future we may be looking for some land to invest in.
This post was edited on 1/23/21 at 4:09 pm
Posted by BallsEleven
Member since Mar 2019
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Posted on 1/23/21 at 7:41 pm to
Man, my dream is to get a solid 10+ acres at least to do exactly what you are talking about. Garden, livestock, pond. My wife thinks I’m crazy when I keep telling her I just need land to frick off on

Chickens are very easy though and from what I’ve seen of your backyard you could do it there. If you have room for bees (the #1 thing I’ve been wanting to do for a while now) you have more than enough room for chickens.
Posted by Cowboyfan89
Member since Sep 2015
12995 posts
Posted on 1/24/21 at 6:37 am to
For you fellas interested in livestock, keep in mind that about 2 acres to the animal is a good starting point, especially if you aren't crossfencing the property. The more you divide, rotate, and fertilize, the more animals you can graze.

I got my summer seeds started on the 10th. All of my tomatoes (Cherokee Purple, Black Cherry, and San Marzano) have germinated. Handful of black beauty eggplants are up, as are my Pablanos. Fresnos, Hajduczuks, and tomatillos haven't come up yet.

Honestly, I think I might have overdone it on the plants...lol! I'm still going to grow butternut squash, green beans, and cucumbers early, and yellow squash and zucchini later in the summer. Have to figure out where I'm going to put all of this...lol!
Posted by PillageUrVillage
Mordor
Member since Mar 2011
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Posted on 1/24/21 at 6:51 am to
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For you fellas interested in livestock, keep in mind that about 2 acres to the animal is a good starting point,


Are we talking horses and cattle? Cause my thinking is more chickens, pigs, rabbits, and goats. Heck, according to the USDA, honey bees are livestock. But I’d buy a thousand acres if I could afford it. (I was really counting on that Mega Millions. )

ETA: one of my coworkers knows a guy that has a bunch of rabbits and sells the manure. Says he makes a killing off of it. Heck, I was thinking about just my personal use. Plus the fact that my daughter would be in heaven around a bunch of rabbits. We’ve nicknamed her Elmyra Duff. That girl loves animals.
This post was edited on 1/24/21 at 7:28 am
Posted by Cowboyfan89
Member since Sep 2015
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Posted on 1/24/21 at 7:45 am to
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Are we talking horses and cattle? Cause my thinking is more chickens, pigs, rabbits, and goats.

Horses and cattle for sure. That definitely wouldn't apply to chickens or rabbits. Goats and pigs are a different animal, figuratively and literally. Goats are browsers more so than grazers, but will eat grass and wouldn't need 2 acres to the animal. Pigs just make a mess of everything. Disgusting animals, but I love a good pork chop. But if you want to raise any animals on pasture alone (which is the best from the animal's standpoint and ours), the more acres the better.

Honeybees are considered livestock by USDA because they are an agricultural commodity (along with several other animals, like catfish, emus, alpacas, and even deer and bison in some cases). I've worked with a few beekeepers through USDA programs in the past.
This post was edited on 1/24/21 at 7:47 am
Posted by PillageUrVillage
Mordor
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Posted on 1/24/21 at 8:01 am to
All good food for thought.

That may be years down the road for us. But it helps to start learning about it now. I was raised around farmland and was in FFA. So I feel like I have some foundation. But have never directly raised any livestock except for chickens. And that was a long time ago.

Looked in this morning on my seeds. The Marconi’s have sprouted! Along with most of the other peppers.

Also I picked up some black beauty seeds yesterday. Plan to pot this up today.
Posted by bluemoons
the marsh
Member since Oct 2012
5842 posts
Posted on 1/24/21 at 12:35 pm to
Most of my peppers have germinated but no Jimmy Nardello germination. Annoying because they’re one of my favorites, but I’ve got really old seeds. May have to replace them with something from Clegg’s.
Posted by HogWalloper
LaLaLand
Member since Jan 2020
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Posted on 1/24/21 at 4:13 pm to
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This post was edited on 5/31/21 at 8:47 am
Posted by DumpsterFire
Member since Sep 2012
1452 posts
Posted on 1/24/21 at 4:59 pm to
Can y’all recommend a good pickling cucumber to be grown in south central Arkansas? I usually just buy whatever is at the garden store but I’m going to start some from seeds this year and want to get the correct type.
Posted by PillageUrVillage
Mordor
Member since Mar 2011
15833 posts
Posted on 1/24/21 at 5:38 pm to
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Can y’all recommend a good pickling cucumber to be grown in south central Arkansas?


You making hamburger slices, spears, small gherkins, or whole?

I pretty much just do hamburger slices and every now and then some spears. I have used Poinsett 76, Straight Eight, and Dasher II’s. All 3 were good, but I find the Dasher II’s had the highest yield.

For gherkins, National Pickling is hard to beat. You could also let them grow large enough to do slices or spears.
This post was edited on 1/24/21 at 5:41 pm
Posted by DumpsterFire
Member since Sep 2012
1452 posts
Posted on 1/24/21 at 8:32 pm to
Thanks, Pillage! I do both slices and spears. I will give one of those a try. There are just so many varieties that it can be overwhelming.

I appreciate the thread. It helped me out a lot last year, and I enjoy seeing pictures of y’all’s gardens/harvests.
Posted by BallsEleven
Member since Mar 2019
6163 posts
Posted on 1/24/21 at 8:40 pm to
For all the square foot gardeners, this thing is pretty neat.

LINK

Posted by PillageUrVillage
Mordor
Member since Mar 2011
15833 posts
Posted on 1/25/21 at 10:04 am to
That’s pretty awesome. I’d like to take a closer look at that planting guide. Just curious what all the color codes are for.

Also, be on the lookout for this new invasive caterpillar in your gardens this year. They apparently steal all of your crops and give them to people that don’t garden.
Posted by ABucks11
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2012
1235 posts
Posted on 1/25/21 at 1:00 pm to
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For all the square foot gardeners, this thing is pretty neat.


Just when I think I won’t buy another thing for the garden.....
Posted by eng08
Member since Jan 2013
6004 posts
Posted on 1/25/21 at 2:11 pm to
It’s $25 - You can make your own with a board and drill bit and stick.
Posted by convertedtiger
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2010
2789 posts
Posted on 1/25/21 at 3:27 pm to
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This year I am going to plant a cotton plant for her.


Be careful with cotton plants. The tip of the boll is very sharp.
Posted by ChenierauTigre
Dreamland
Member since Dec 2007
34721 posts
Posted on 1/25/21 at 6:07 pm to
That's great. My daughter sent me one yesterday that showed a cut king cake and Bernie was the baby. Pretty funny.
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