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re: Can we rename this page "Pay for Play" or something else because recruiting is dead?
Posted on 12/18/25 at 2:45 pm to homemadeshine
Posted on 12/18/25 at 2:45 pm to homemadeshine
Hate to break it to you, but recruiting has always been pay for play.
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Posted on 12/18/25 at 3:14 pm to chadr07
quote:Yes.
Is anything he said actually wrong though?
Recruiting is not dead. It may have changed some, but it's not close to dead.
Money has always been a part of recruiting. Even going back to 1908 when LSU was accused of paying players.
Moreover, it's silly to suggest that money is everything. It's not. Many players make school choices in which money is not the bottom line.
I'm not naive enough to suggest that money is never the bottom line, but those instances in which money plays a larger role in the decision-making process get bigger headlines because those instances usually involve higher profile athletes, later in the recruiting process when there is more attention, and the amount of money is greater.
And to be honest, the very fact that money is involved has not been completely accepted. Too many people diminish the decision-making process that athletes and parents undergo and would rather reduce the entire process to greed. Those people can't/won't identify with the athletes and parents, have never been involved with athletes/parents who make those kinds of decisions, and have preexisting notions of how that calculus is made.
There are entire industries that are based on recruiting outside of sports. There are salespeople who thrive on conducting business without emphasis on price. In nearly every industry involving sales and commerce, relationships matter.
Ole Miss is not hiring Frank Wilson just to get back at LSU. Frank Wilson has real value as a recruiter. Why? Because recruiting matters.
LSU has a large NIL budget, and it's even larger now that Lane is the head coach. Everyone wants to be associated with a winner, including people with deep pockets.
Nevertheless, LSU will not be able to outspend every other school for every recruit that Lane covets. LSU is going to need to attract and sign players without being the top spender on each player.
Recruiting matters. Recruiting is not dead. Recruiting has not come to an end.
Not even close.
Posted on 12/18/25 at 3:18 pm to homemadeshine
So you think it wasn't always pay for play? It is just legal now.
Posted on 12/18/25 at 5:36 pm to homemadeshine
Recruiting can be via high school or the portal
Posted on 12/19/25 at 7:41 am to D500MAG
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The Auction Block
That's a winner! Love it!
Posted on 12/19/25 at 8:31 am to Salviati
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Recruiting is not dead. It may have changed some, but it's not close to dead.
Money has always been a part of recruiting. Even going back to 1908 when LSU was accused of paying players.
Recruiting is dead in the traditional sense. Yes, the top players have always been paid, and I agree that players should be paid, but it's clearly out of control and reflects nothing of what recruiting should be.
When Saban - the greatest coach of all time - says recruits didn't want to hear about the school or how he could help them become better players, but only wanted to know how much they were going to be paid, I don't call that recruiting.
Posted on 12/19/25 at 10:38 am to homemadeshine
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reflects nothing of what recruiting should be
Although I agree with your sentiments in general in your post, this is the where most people get confused.
It’s not about what recruiting should be. It’s about what NIL should be. The fight about being paid was about the universities profiting off of the athlete’s Name, Image, and Likeness while the athlete could not.
This has become pay for play, and the NCAA has been neutered when it comes to policing it. That and the portal system have effectively eliminated traditional recruiting. However, relationships, fit, closeness to home, etc., all have their traditional roles to play in many instances.
When money is basically balanced between two programs, then those other factors come into play.
With the advent of revenue sharing, I am not sure what that portends. But, I have a feeling that over time we will possibly see players unions, collective bargaining, and multi year contracts. Especially if the big conferences break off. At that point, recruiting will be dead in the collegiate sense of the word
Posted on 12/20/25 at 10:48 am to homemadeshine
Free Agency perhaps?
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