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Posted on 12/1/11 at 6:53 am to
Posted by jturn17
Member since Jan 2011
4978 posts
Posted on 12/1/11 at 6:53 am to
Besides, having 1 and done's is one of the worst possible things for a team. Look at Auburn and Cam. having to constantly replace someone leaving after 1 year is a rough situation for a football team, especially when that player is a QB.
Posted by coldhotwings
Mississippi
Member since Jan 2008
6497 posts
Posted on 12/1/11 at 7:16 am to
JUCO players are supplemental and should never be the foundation of a roster and never build a team around a JUCO player. Some teams learn the hard way but I doubt anyone at Auburn regrets having Cam for just one year.
Posted by Ace Midnight
Between sanity and madness
Member since Dec 2006
95114 posts
Posted on 12/1/11 at 7:29 am to
quote:

So Keil was there for the Arkansas game and is he still there today?


No - he had to leave, return home and then come back. You cannot just flow an unofficial into an official - against the rules.

Having said that, I have NEVER heard of a kid in for a game on an unofficial just immediately turn around and come back on an official. It is likely that as an EE - that's what is driving this particular sequence of events, but it's still almost unheard of.

I think, right now, Miles and Co take a QB and they are waiting for Kiel (who is almost out of time if he's going to enroll early), but have a quick trigger on Liggins if not. It's possible they are thinking - we're losing 2 senior QBs, so we need 2 QBs, but I'm not sure - that would sure signal they're not completely sold on Rivers.

It's also possible Liggins is a definite take (he may ultimately work out at another position) and Kiel will get one of the blue chip spots at the end - because his decision cycle is so quick, we're not really risking anything at this point.
Posted by astonvilla
New Jersey
Member since Dec 2005
3485 posts
Posted on 12/1/11 at 7:46 am to
Miles in his weekly conference said Randall would be looked at different position than QB..dont know if thats the reason for taking 2 QB this year
Posted by LSUkoozie
30'24'43'N91'11'8'W
Member since Oct 2011
925 posts
Posted on 12/1/11 at 7:53 am to
on the radio last night, i don't know who it was, but he said he believes his family went to n.o. and then came back. the guy talking also said he believes kiel will make a decision in next 2 weeks bc he is doing early enrollment.
Posted by xHITMANx
Member since Nov 2011
503 posts
Posted on 12/1/11 at 10:02 am to
We just a need a SMART QB who can run 'IF' need be/

Brees, Brady, Rogers Etc.


You don't need a Young, Newton, Vick or Tebow to win Championships. You need them to win games b/c your defense isn't the best.

Posted by jturn17
Member since Jan 2011
4978 posts
Posted on 12/1/11 at 10:17 am to
quote:

We just a need a SMART QB who can run 'IF' need be/



There are a lot of SMART QBs who are terrible football players. Might want to reevaluate what you want in a good QB.
Posted by astonvilla
New Jersey
Member since Dec 2005
3485 posts
Posted on 12/1/11 at 10:18 am to
yup he is visiting Vandy this week and ND next week and will make decision after that..lets hope ND doesnt impress him too much
Posted by Duck enticer
Crowley
Member since Apr 2010
1349 posts
Posted on 12/1/11 at 10:23 am to
Brady can't run a lick....I do agree with Brees and Rogers though. Brady runs like Rich Eisen.
Posted by Sammobile
Hollywood South
Member since Jan 2009
22414 posts
Posted on 12/1/11 at 10:26 am to
quote:

We just a need a SMART QB who can run 'IF' need be/

Brees, Brady, Rogers Etc.


You don't need a Young, Newton, Vick or Tebow to win Championships


you'd rather LSU have solid to good college qbs over all-time great ones?
Posted by AcetylCoA
Pasadena, California
Member since Nov 2009
2692 posts
Posted on 12/1/11 at 10:28 am to
Take that stupid shite to the rant. It takes a stupid frick to say they wouldn't take the college version of Young, Newton, Vick, or Tebow in which all 4 played for National Championships.
Posted by AlxTgr
Kyre Banorg
Member since Oct 2003
86837 posts
Posted on 12/1/11 at 10:39 am to
quote:

Rich Eisen.
His sprints in a suit are things of beauty.
Posted by bayoujd
Member since Jan 2009
3117 posts
Posted on 12/1/11 at 11:02 am to
quote:

A Notre Dame fan lecturing a tiger fan about football. That's choice. We watch the best team in the land play football and we don't see yelling or screaming. The culture YOU see is losing football. There are petty tyrants coaching in all sports at all levels. There are also positive mentors who teach while preserving human dignity. You like tyrants? Bully for you -- literally.


I'm not sure how old rocket31 is, but if he was watching ND in the late 80s and in the 90s, then he has seen plenty great teams. In fact, LSU right now reminds me of those ND teams. Tough, physical, smash mouth. They wore teams down.

As for coaching style, Kelly just doesn't look pretty when he screams. His face gets red (or purple). He screams as much as Saban, or even Holtz did. There is more than 1 way to teach and motivate. As much as I like Miles, his style is not the only effective style. For rocket31, I bet he would say that Ty Willingham was calm and reassuring. How far did that get him?
Posted by Lazy But Talented
Member since Aug 2011
15037 posts
Posted on 12/1/11 at 11:12 am to
quote:

Brees, Brady, Rogers Etc.


Yes, if we can get either of those three to sign I think we'll be really good...
Posted by GoldenITF
Indiana
Member since Nov 2011
29 posts
Posted on 12/1/11 at 12:51 pm to
I'll share the wealth from an update we had on the ND site:

LSU made up a ton of ground and Gunner is really impressed. He really likes Kragthorpe and how things are run.

If he wasn't an EE and LSU was in it from the beginning I would say that they would have a very good chance at landing him. The problem for the Tigers is that ND has the last visit and South Bend is a short drive from Columbus and distance is a definite factor.

Still perceived he will end up at ND but would not be a shock if he picked LSU.
Posted by Bonjourno
New Orleans
Member since Jan 2010
2774 posts
Posted on 12/1/11 at 12:55 pm to
Thanks for the info
Posted by astonvilla
New Jersey
Member since Dec 2005
3485 posts
Posted on 12/1/11 at 12:55 pm to
thanks for the update..I agree, if distance wasnt a factor he would have been at Bama right now
Posted by GeauxLSU8
Baton Rouge
Member since Oct 2005
4242 posts
Posted on 12/1/11 at 12:57 pm to
quote:

on the radio last night, i don't know who it was, but he said he believes his family went to n.o. and then came back. the guy talking also said he believes kiel will make a decision in next 2 weeks bc he is doing early enrollment.


No, he asked if they did that and Ponamsky said no he went home. Ponamsky also said that it is extreamly unusual to follow up and unofficial with an official so fast
Posted by rocket31
Member since Jan 2008
41887 posts
Posted on 12/1/11 at 12:58 pm to
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South Bend is a short drive from Columbus and distance is a definite factor.


isnt it 3 hours?

and fwiw, i think vandy is the same distance from columbus IN as south bend is which is why they are a factor as well.
Posted by thunderbird1100
GSU Eagles fan
Member since Oct 2007
71859 posts
Posted on 12/1/11 at 1:03 pm to
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JUCO players are supplemental and should never be the foundation of a roster and never build a team around a JUCO player. Some teams learn the hard way but I doubt anyone at Auburn regrets having Cam for just one year.


Bill Snyder disagrees with this assessment, but KSU is the perfect place to build on JUCOs being a primary impact on the roster...there is a good deal of JUCOs there to pipeline to for them.

Arkansas, IMO, is starting to more and more go that route. They have signed 12 JUCOs in the last 3 years, have 1 committed right now for 2012 and an Arky friend of mine said they are heavily recruiting 4 more for this year. The majority of their JUCO recruits have been defensive players, a place they have struggled recruiting the high school ranks in.
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