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Posted on 11/21/07 at 12:09 pm to
Posted by tigger1
Member since Mar 2005
3770 posts
Posted on 11/21/07 at 12:09 pm to
Coach Wingard career record isn't 40-10-2, that is what the College Football Data Warehouse had at one time.

Go to the page now, I had them update it when I found his record at Susquehanna; where he played and later coached off and on.

His overall record is 70-33-6
Posted by itawambadog
America, F Yeah!
Member since Nov 2007
21266 posts
Posted on 11/21/07 at 12:11 pm to
MSU should claim the 1940 championship, we won the orange bowl that year abd went 10-0-1
Posted by WikiTiger
Member since Sep 2007
41055 posts
Posted on 11/21/07 at 2:19 pm to
Thanks for the update!!! I edited Coach Wingard's Wikipedia article to reflect the updated stats.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Edgar_Wingard
Posted by TIGERECRUITER
Baton Rouge
Member since Feb 2007
2465 posts
Posted on 11/21/07 at 2:21 pm to
Who cares nothing should count before 1950
Posted by WikiTiger
Member since Sep 2007
41055 posts
Posted on 11/21/07 at 2:22 pm to
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Who cares nothing should count before 1950


So if LSU was ranked #1 in the very first AP Poll (like they deserved) in 1936 instead of #2, you wouldn't claim it?
Posted by West Monroe
west Monroe, la
Member since Jan 2005
1024 posts
Posted on 11/21/07 at 2:26 pm to
Has any third party ever claimed the 1940 Miss State team was national champs??? I have no idea and that is why I'm asking. I understand the shots at Bama and Ole Miss, but alot of schools do this. I'm just guessing they haven't. I would think if any third party said State had won a national title ya'll would be claiming it.
Posted by JPinLondon
not in London (currently NW Ohio)
Member since Nov 2006
7864 posts
Posted on 11/21/07 at 2:28 pm to
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Who cares nothing should count before 1950
Who cares? Some of us sure do! LSU football is an interesting and compelling story that, in fact, predates 1950.

I happen to find it fascinating to learn about the teams from 1893 to 1949, which is exactly HALF of all the LSU football history!
Posted by Doc Fenton
New York, NY
Member since Feb 2007
52698 posts
Posted on 11/21/07 at 2:59 pm to
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Here's who we played that year....not exactly the hardest in terms of strength of schedule. Haha


Hey! We played Auburn, the Official SIAA Champions that year, at Auburn, and won easily, 10-2. The only reason they scored those 2 points was because some a-hole Auburn fan knocked me out with a cane before I was able to punt out our end zone. fricking Auburn fans, huh?

To say that we couldn't have beaten those pansies from Penn is ridiculous. Our team was the first national championship team from the South. All the rest had come from the Ivy League and the Patriot League, and maybe a couple from Michigan and Chicago.
Posted by Skeeter 79
Prairieville, LA
Member since Nov 2007
2225 posts
Posted on 11/21/07 at 3:00 pm to
I think the early days of Tiger football are very interesting.
Posted by Doc Fenton
New York, NY
Member since Feb 2007
52698 posts
Posted on 11/21/07 at 3:00 pm to
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Why don't we list the 1908 National Championship. Coach Wingard went 10-0. Here is the entire story.


Bless your heart. I was a "beast" that year!

Did you know that the LSU regular season scoring record from 1908 still stands to this day?

Posted by Doc Fenton
New York, NY
Member since Feb 2007
52698 posts
Posted on 11/21/07 at 3:02 pm to
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Who cares nothing should count before 1950




Yeah, and some people say nothing before the 1984 anti-trust case should count either. You know what I say to them?

Posted by Doc Fenton
New York, NY
Member since Feb 2007
52698 posts
Posted on 11/21/07 at 3:03 pm to
quote:

I think the early days of Tiger football are very interesting.


Yes, people (cough, Tulane and Auburn fans, cough) claimed I was a professional and cheat, but I was innocent of all charges. I was innocent, I tell ya!!!

"I am not a crook." -- Doc Fenton

Posted by Doc Fenton
New York, NY
Member since Feb 2007
52698 posts
Posted on 11/21/07 at 3:04 pm to
Also, did you know that LSU won 22 straight games in Baton Rouge back then? That record also still stands.
Posted by Mr. Shankly
Redding and Marshall Rd
Member since Aug 2004
5551 posts
Posted on 11/21/07 at 3:05 pm to
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Because we're not Bama, USC or Ole Piss

Fixed it
Posted by WikiTiger
Member since Sep 2007
41055 posts
Posted on 11/21/07 at 3:26 pm to
Hey Doc, why don't you go edit your Wikipedia page and add some pertinent (sourced) info?? hehe

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Doc_Fenton
Posted by TigerFanatic1
Monroe, LA
Member since Aug 2007
2127 posts
Posted on 11/21/07 at 3:27 pm to
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Here's who we played that year....not exactly the hardest in terms of strength of schedule. Haha


Looks like a Kansas schedule to me, so maybe we should have one the National Championship...

quote:

that means 4 safeties: give up 0 touchdowns, 1 field goal, and 4 safeties all year.


I could be wrong, but I think 1908 was prior to the scoring changes that we have today. I couldn't find the link, but the scoring used to be very different and it changed a few times. I am only 24 so that was just a few years before my time.
This post was edited on 11/21/07 at 3:38 pm
Posted by TigahRag
Sorting Out OT BS Since 2005
Member since May 2005
132775 posts
Posted on 11/21/07 at 3:33 pm to
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Allowed 11 total points all year though... thats impressive!!!


Jackson Barracks must have run the spread offense on them to score 5 ....
Posted by Beltway Bengal
Potomac, Maryland
Member since Feb 2004
519 posts
Posted on 11/21/07 at 3:54 pm to
Our 1908 championship is as real as any of the pre-1935 championships.
Posted by CarrolltonTiger
New Orleans
Member since Aug 2005
50291 posts
Posted on 11/21/07 at 4:08 pm to
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Why don't we list the 1908 National Championship.


According to Pete Finney in "The Fighting Tigers" it was indeed a very good team with very good players and that was a legitimate schedule that they rolled through. The problem was players may have been professionals, and not students.

Auburn was awarded the Southern Championship that year even though we beat them because of the allegations of paid players.
Posted by WikiTiger
Member since Sep 2007
41055 posts
Posted on 11/21/07 at 4:13 pm to
quote:

According to Pete Finney in "The Fighting Tigers" it was indeed a very good team with very good players and that was a legitimate schedule that they rolled through. The problem was players may have been professionals, and not students.

Auburn was awarded the Southern Championship that year even though we beat them because of the allegations of paid players.


Page 148 of the 2007 LSU Football Media Guide states that the 1908 team was the SIAA champion: https://www.lsusports.net/src/data/lsu/assets/docs/fb/pdf/07guide137-195.pdf?SPSID=27815&SPID=2164&DB_OEM_ID=5200

But page 150 doesn't even mention the confernce championship.

Weird.
This post was edited on 11/21/07 at 4:15 pm
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