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Posted on 12/27/18 at 8:20 pm to
Posted by TigerLunatik
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Jan 2005
106380 posts
Posted on 12/27/18 at 8:20 pm to
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They win or lose as a team. The minute people start being honest around here is when the discussions will become more civil.

Only one person has been disagreeing with the win as a team, lose as a team motto.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
298305 posts
Posted on 12/27/18 at 8:21 pm to
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At least I know I have.


Well you're somewhat objective. I've said this many times.
Posted by RB10
Member since Nov 2010
51842 posts
Posted on 12/27/18 at 8:22 pm to
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Well you should probably possess it, your reading comprehension is highly overrated in your mind. You have a terrible habit of extrapolating things that are literal and generalizing them.


"But giving up an astronomically difficult dribpve in one minute is ok.. we can overlook that and blame the offense for playing the odds "

- Said no one in the thread.

Please Roger, tell me more. When a guy who argues almost exclusively in hyperbole says something like this, his self awareness is pretty much absolute zero.
This post was edited on 12/27/18 at 8:24 pm
Posted by TigerLunatik
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Jan 2005
106380 posts
Posted on 12/27/18 at 8:24 pm to
I'm very hard on coaches, Roger. They get paid an obscene amount of money to win games. IMO, college players don't lose games. Coaches do. I'm a huge Will Wade fan, but if he misses the tourney I'm gonna give him hell about it.
Posted by RB10
Member since Nov 2010
51842 posts
Posted on 12/27/18 at 8:24 pm to
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Well you're somewhat objective. I've said this many times.


He's disagreed with your entire stance.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
298305 posts
Posted on 12/27/18 at 8:25 pm to
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Only one person has been disagreeing with the win as a team, lose as a team motto.


RB disagrees with it. His criteria is a bit fuzzy though.
Posted by bencoleman
RIP 7/19
Member since Feb 2009
37887 posts
Posted on 12/27/18 at 8:25 pm to
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Why not try to get 4 yards to wrap up the game though


The coaches made the right choice. The defense had shut aTm down in the second half. Giving it to your defense to win the game was the right thing to do.
Posted by RB10
Member since Nov 2010
51842 posts
Posted on 12/27/18 at 8:26 pm to
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RB disagrees with it. His criteria is a bit fuzzy though.


quote:

your reading comprehension is highly overrated in your mind. You have a terrible habit of extrapolating things that are literal and generalizing them.




The fricking irony.
This post was edited on 12/27/18 at 8:27 pm
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
298305 posts
Posted on 12/27/18 at 8:27 pm to
You said it yourself

Taking it back?
Posted by RB10
Member since Nov 2010
51842 posts
Posted on 12/27/18 at 8:28 pm to
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You said it yourself

Taking it back?


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your reading comprehension is highly overrated in your mind. You have a terrible habit of extrapolating things that are literal and generalizing them.


As I said, the irony.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
298305 posts
Posted on 12/27/18 at 8:29 pm to
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As I said, the irony.


So you didn't say you could blame the offense in some games, or situations?

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One unit can be to blame if they get 50 dropped on them or only score 10 points.


Your own words. And it's my reading comprehension?
This post was edited on 12/27/18 at 8:35 pm
Posted by RB10
Member since Nov 2010
51842 posts
Posted on 12/27/18 at 8:35 pm to
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One unit can be to blame if they get 50 dropped on them or only score 10 points.


I see a post that gives a logical stance to blaming one unit for performing poorly for an entire game.

Are you under the impression that blaming a unit for a loss for playing an entire game poorly is the same thing as blaming them for the loss due to 1 or 2 plays?

I don't see anywhere in that post where I blame the offense for losing the game on one or two plays, do you?
This post was edited on 12/27/18 at 8:36 pm
Posted by Goldrush25
San Diego, CA
Member since Oct 2012
33961 posts
Posted on 12/27/18 at 8:35 pm to
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The coaches made the right choice. The defense had shut aTm down in the second half. Giving it to your defense to win the game was the right thing to do.



But if you have a chance to essentially put the game out of reach right there without giving the ball back, why wouldn't you do that?

You're saying taking extra steps and assuming a result was the right move. Whenever you extend the game, you're increasing the likelihood of negative events occurring.

The entire problem is decision makers assuming results. I don't say that to bash the decision makers. I know they work very hard at these things and for that I'm very grateful as an LSU fan.
This post was edited on 12/27/18 at 8:37 pm
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
298305 posts
Posted on 12/27/18 at 8:37 pm to
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I see a post that gives a logical stance to blaming one unit for performing poorly for an entire game.

Are you under the impression that blaming a unit for a loss for playing an entire game poorly is the same thing as blaming them for the loss due to 1 or 2 plays?



No, you're waffling. You said my comprehension was bad when pointed it out

Did you write that?

Or are you claiming some subjective boogey woogy that only you can define?

Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
298305 posts
Posted on 12/27/18 at 8:38 pm to
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But if you have a chance to essentially put the game out of reach right there without giving the ball back, why wouldn't you do that?


At what risk?

If we had turned it over, do you realize what you would be complaining about now?

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The entire problem is decision makers assuming results.


This is what all coaches have to do
This post was edited on 12/27/18 at 8:40 pm
Posted by RB10
Member since Nov 2010
51842 posts
Posted on 12/27/18 at 8:39 pm to
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No, you're waffling. You said my comprehension was bad when pointed it out

Did you write that?

Or are you claiming some subjective boogey woogy that only you can define?


I'm making a claim of a whole game vs. one or two plays. Do you not understand the difference between the two?
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
298305 posts
Posted on 12/27/18 at 8:40 pm to
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I'm making a claim of a whole game vs. one or two plays.


Yet you're still saying one unit can be blamed

Checkmate.
Posted by RB10
Member since Nov 2010
51842 posts
Posted on 12/27/18 at 8:43 pm to
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Yet you're still saying one unit can be blamed

Checkmate.


Not even close man.

Can one unit be blamed for a whole game of poor play? Absolutely.

Blaming one unit for the loss because of one or two plays? That's still as asinine as it was the first time you posted it.

There is a massive, massive difference between these two notions.
Posted by The First Cut
Member since Apr 2012
14817 posts
Posted on 12/27/18 at 8:43 pm to
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But if you have a chance to essentially put the game out of reach right there without giving the ball back, why wouldn't you do that?

You're saying taking extra steps and assuming a result was the right move. Whenever you extend the game, you're increasing the likelihood of negative events occurring.


Passing the ball only shortens the game if it’s complete for a first down. If it’s incomplete it will lengthen the game bacause A&M would not have had to burn their timeouts. Completing passes for a first down is a big if with this team.
Posted by Goldrush25
San Diego, CA
Member since Oct 2012
33961 posts
Posted on 12/27/18 at 8:43 pm to
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At what risk?

If we had turned it over, do you realize what you would be complaining about now?



Then we would've given them what, 15 yards of field position? For the defense that had shut down A&M that entire half, seems like a risk worth taking.

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