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re: A mobile QB is better for RPO
Posted on 4/28/22 at 2:12 pm to Lester Earl
Posted on 4/28/22 at 2:12 pm to Lester Earl
quote:I don't think it is settled at all (agreeing with you).
It benefits LSU to have a QB battle. I don’t think anything is settled.
So who cares who I rule out or not, it doesn’t matter in the least. I am just talking
The reason I think that is because they don't have a season-starting full offense installed at all positions yet.
Until they do, they can't quite be sure who the man to run that offense is. That being said, they damn sure know who they think it will be based on what they've seen so far.
But it is somewhat a process of elimination- those who can't QB/field general the offense at each stage of introduction is out. Then those that keep up have to battle it out with skill level. This is because with game planning the offense will change to a degree every week, or almost every week. With 20 hrs of practice you need players, including and especially the QB, who understand the concepts to manage that change week to week.
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Posted on 4/28/22 at 2:25 pm to sabes que
I coach QB in Baton Rouge. We won district this past season and he’s got the mobility of Matthew Stafford. It doesn’t matter
Posted on 4/28/22 at 2:40 pm to sabes que
so you'd rather lamar Jackson than Rodgers or Tom Brady?
Posted on 4/28/22 at 3:11 pm to GEAUX5
quote:
THE “R” IN RPO MEANS RUN FOR THE RUNNING BACK.
ZONE READ OPTION AND RPO ARE DIFFERENT PLAY CONCEPTS.
There are also Read Option RPOs
Posted on 4/28/22 at 3:43 pm to sabes que
quote:
Mobile QB better for RPO
Posted on 4/28/22 at 3:58 pm to TeddyPadillac
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an accurate thrower of the ball that has pocket presence is better for passing the ball.
Should have been /thread
Running ability is lagniappe; accuracy within the pocket is essential.
Posted on 4/28/22 at 4:30 pm to bayou85
I don’t think that means he hates Brennan….it’s just the honest truth.
Posted on 4/28/22 at 4:34 pm to BayouSupaChamp
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This post was edited on 4/28/22 at 4:43 pm
Posted on 4/28/22 at 4:37 pm to BayouSupaChamp
An accurate smart qb is needed for the RPO. Qb has to make a quick decision based off of defensive front most times LB placement whether to pass or to hand ball off to running back. Qb also has to be accurate as these are normally slant routes and ball placement is key for big gains as you want to anticipate where the receiver will be so they can catch in stride normally throwing behind the lb and in front of the safety. Ball too low and tips and interceptions happen. Throwing behind or to will result in the receiver slowing down allowing the safety to make the jump and hit right after the catch.
This post was edited on 4/28/22 at 4:40 pm
Posted on 4/28/22 at 5:25 pm to Mr Clean
The defense doesn’t know what the play is, so having a QB that is a threat to keep on a zone read, gives more trouble for the defense in an RPO situation, as the guy being read is more likely to crash down to account for the QB keep.
Posted on 4/28/22 at 5:33 pm to sabes que
Yes. The defense has to account for the qb if he’s a run threat. In all situations.
A running QB who can’t throw an accurate slant route is a problem though.
And a running QB who may take what Kelly deems unnecessary risks, might also be a problem.
So it’s not just “put the guy in who can run”.
The guy may be any of the three, but running will not be the only factor.
A running QB who can’t throw an accurate slant route is a problem though.
And a running QB who may take what Kelly deems unnecessary risks, might also be a problem.
So it’s not just “put the guy in who can run”.
The guy may be any of the three, but running will not be the only factor.
Posted on 4/28/22 at 5:42 pm to abellsujr
You’re correct, many time a “dual threat” QB is really not a dual threat because he can’t pass. But that doesn’t change my point in the OP, all things being equal, a mobile QB is better for the RPO, even though people are criticized and mocked to hell for suggesting as much.
Posted on 4/28/22 at 5:44 pm to sabes que
Is he better for the RPO if he doesn’t make good reads? Slow reads? Makes bad throws?
You understand? Being able to run does bring a different element, doesn’t mean he’s better for it overall.
He may be. I don’t know. But running does not make him better at RPOs.
You understand? Being able to run does bring a different element, doesn’t mean he’s better for it overall.
He may be. I don’t know. But running does not make him better at RPOs.
This post was edited on 4/28/22 at 5:48 pm
Posted on 4/28/22 at 5:50 pm to abellsujr
I said all other things being equal, it is better to be mobile, of course a QB that can accurately pass is better than one that can’t, but again that’s not all other things being equal.
Posted on 4/28/22 at 5:52 pm to abellsujr
The best plays for a mobile qb are ones with an empty back field. A zone read in this instance the defense is the most spread out with only the safety having eyes on qb. If the safety has to respect the deep ball and help his corners it makes for big runs with the qb but they have to repect the qbs ability to throw the ball. So even the most mobile qb still has to make throws to keep defense honest. Why you saw Bama throw with hurts every now and then eventhough he wasn't the most accurate.
Posted on 4/28/22 at 5:52 pm to sabes que
I agree of course.
A Tom Brady who can run like Lamar Jackson would be fricking amazing.
A Tom Brady who can run like Lamar Jackson would be fricking amazing.
Posted on 4/28/22 at 5:55 pm to abellsujr
If you’re dead set on a guy who can run then go with Nuss. He’s plenty mobile while being much more accurate than Daniels.
Problem is he’ll make some YOLO throws that I’m not sure can be fully eliminated.
Problem is he’ll make some YOLO throws that I’m not sure can be fully eliminated.
This post was edited on 4/28/22 at 5:57 pm
Posted on 4/28/22 at 5:57 pm to abellsujr
Haha yes, imagine Brady with 4.4 speed. Although I will say Josh Allen and Burrow are actually in that wheelhouse. That is the modern great QB, can run but also a great thrower of the football.
Posted on 4/28/22 at 6:06 pm to ForeverEllisHugh
There’s a running QB…
Then there’s Daniels. We’re talking elite WR speed. That’s why they’re working on his mechanics. We’ll see what they can do.
Then there’s Daniels. We’re talking elite WR speed. That’s why they’re working on his mechanics. We’ll see what they can do.
This post was edited on 4/28/22 at 6:07 pm
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