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re: A very telling statistic in regards to play-calling from Saturday's game...
Posted on 9/22/14 at 2:39 pm to LouisianaLonghorn
Posted on 9/22/14 at 2:39 pm to LouisianaLonghorn
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A lot of people on here got pissed when several media outlets picked Moo State to win. The reason many of them gave was that LSU simply would not take advantage of MSU's weak secondary. One guy even went so far as to say that even if we could do it, that Miles wouldn't because it doesn't fit into his offensive scheme.
Do you still have the source to those, by chance? I'd like to read them and see how close they actually called it.
EDIT: Or do you remember what outlets? I can search for it if you remember the source.
This post was edited on 9/22/14 at 2:40 pm
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Posted on 9/22/14 at 2:47 pm to FearTheValley
Honestly it seemed like most analysts saw this coming. The matchup was terrible for LSU.
Pretty much everyone that picked LSU said it was strictly because it was at home, at night, and because MSU lost 14 straight and had to prove it.
The analysts that actually analyzed the matchup were the ones with multiple actual reasons State would win.
Pretty much everyone that picked LSU said it was strictly because it was at home, at night, and because MSU lost 14 straight and had to prove it.
The analysts that actually analyzed the matchup were the ones with multiple actual reasons State would win.
This post was edited on 9/22/14 at 2:53 pm
Posted on 9/22/14 at 2:50 pm to saint amant steve
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LSU punted on four of their first five possessions in each half, and five of those eight possessions ended as three-and-outs.
but the defense was the problem
Posted on 9/22/14 at 2:56 pm to Topwater Trout
Lsu's defense is terrible! The qb for Moo st. had time to call his mom on the cell phone before he had to throw the ball. Both lines sucked Sat. night. Moo st. is a good ball club, but not that good, Lsu was just bad!!! 
Posted on 9/22/14 at 3:04 pm to ILeaveAtHalftime
The run first always is so predictable and the opposing teams know that in advance as well as all of Tiger Nation - therefore the predictability of nine players in the box.
Posted on 9/22/14 at 3:08 pm to saint amant steve
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The Tigers ran on 13 out of 16 first down plays during the first half and never passed on consecutive first downs. Once the Tigers found themselves in a hole during the third quarter, the play-calling shifted drastically.
LSU dialed up 11 passes on their 16 first down plays during the second half, inferably out of desperation.
Meanwhile, Mississippi State threw the ball on 7 of their 15 first half first down plays and possessed much greater balance throughout the game.
Jennings =/= Prescott
Posted on 9/22/14 at 4:25 pm to Big EZ Tiger
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Jennings hasn't thrown a bunch of picks or looked atrocious.
While he didn't turn the ball over Saturday, he certainly did look atrocious (an I have been one of his biggest supporters until this weekend!). His throws were wildly innacurate most of the time, he stared down his intended receiver, he seemed incapable or unwilling to go through his progression to his 2nd or 3rd receivers if his #1 was covered, he held onto the ball too long, and he would just scramble when his #1 was covered even when he had multiple recievers wide arse open.
He simply did not have a good game. He looked nervous and rattled from the start, playing not to lose instead of playing to win.
If you watch the game, compare Jennings and Harris's body language when they enter the huddle before each play. Jennings looks timid, like he's unsure of himself. Harris looks excited and supremely confident. Next, look at the body language of his offensive line after a couple plays with Jennings in the huddle compared to Harris. By third down with Jennings, they look gassed, hands on their hips, they're spent, beat, defeated. Look at that same group of linemen with Harris under center after a couple plays (even after running the hurry up and running the length of the field). They look focused, excited, and confident. They look ready to trample the world. Why? Because confidence is infectious.
Harris has charisma. Harris believes. From the second he stepped into that huddle, there was not a doubt in his mind that he was going to win that game, and he made his team mates believe that too. That's how LSU managed to go from down 4 scores to one catch away from a walk-off victory.
The question now is do you believe? Do you believe that this team QB'd by a player who doesn't believe in himself can inspire belief in others? Can Jennings really be counted on (not to make the big throw), but to make all of the routine throws in the 1st-3rd quarters. Or, do you believe that this team simply isn't good enough? Football is all about focus, tenacity, drive, and above all belief. The team who believes that it will win on every play is the team that wins on every play. You win by forcing your opposition across the field to lose faith in themselves, to make them quit. LSU's players had quit long ago, but Harris made them believe. He made me believe, too.
What did he make you believe?
Posted on 9/22/14 at 4:34 pm to saint amant steve
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The Tigers ran on 13 out of 16 first down plays during the first half and never passed on consecutive first downs. Once the Tigers found themselves in a hole during the third quarter, the play-calling shifted drastically.
Ball Control!!!! Do you think it was their plan (and hope) to keep the ball away from a superior offense?
Posted on 9/22/14 at 4:54 pm to saint amant steve
"Confident it will improve going forward"
Why not wait a few more weeks. It shouldn't be a problem. Let's hold their paychecks until it does. Deal?
Why not wait a few more weeks. It shouldn't be a problem. Let's hold their paychecks until it does. Deal?
Posted on 9/22/14 at 5:01 pm to kingbob
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The question now is do you believe? Do you believe that this team QB'd by a player who doesn't believe in himself can inspire belief in others? Can Jennings really be counted on (not to make the big throw), but to make all of the routine throws in the 1st-3rd quarters.
I believe you're talking out of your azz - that's what I believe.
How do you know that Jennings doesn't believe in himself? It seemed like he believed in himself when he pretty much pulled out a miracle win against an 0-fer Arkansas team last year by going 99 yards with time running out. We had a pro QB, two pro WRs and a pro RB in the backfield and did nothing until he came in. That was almost an embarrassing loss. Everybody seemed to believe then.
Maybe it's his coaches that are the issue. They started with 3 straight runs against a team that gave up 3 70+ yard bombs and 430+ passing yards to UAB. And then they end the half by running the ball, letting the clock run down to 3 seconds and calling a timeout before calling a useless screen pass. Does that inspire confidence??? Then they want to pass when they're down multiple touchdowns late...no pressure or anything.
I thought Jennings should have been pulled much earlier. He did not play well (and when he missed, it wasn't close). I think Harris looks much faster and has a better arm. Jennings knows the plays a little better, etc., because he has been here for a year and change. But on nights like Saturday, I can deal with a few game management issues.
With that said, we should have been trying to throw it more and further down field when Jennings was in the game. That has been his strength and State's weakness. He had a 48-yard completion to Dural, but we should have been spreading the field and sending receivers all over.
When your coaches play not to lose, you can't blame it all on the QB.
Posted on 9/22/14 at 5:04 pm to Lackamoola
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Ball Control!!!! Do you think it was their plan (and hope) to keep the ball away from a superior offense?
State's strength is stopping the run. We should have aimed to have ball control by passing more and moving the sticks. We passed for much more than we ran for on Saturday night.
Posted on 9/22/14 at 5:22 pm to ILeaveAtHalftime
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But DAMN it just seems like common sense to throw the ball more on first downs. A simple slant or drag would be an easy throw for either QB and would show that we're at least pretending to have a passing game. It seemed like we went hours between Jennings' passes between the hash marks
Jennings does not look into the middle of the field. Ever. It was wide open all game. He will need to work on his check downs a lot if he doesn't want to be another JJ.
Posted on 9/22/14 at 6:01 pm to LoveThatMoney
This just goes to show that coaches, for the most part, are not very smart people.
Posted on 9/22/14 at 6:11 pm to ILeaveAtHalftime
Son of a bitch. Idiot mother cricket.
Posted on 9/22/14 at 6:26 pm to Big Sway
Im surprised we had 16 first downs in first half.
Posted on 9/22/14 at 6:37 pm to kingbob
quote:I was ready to believe it might be possible that some Freshman heroics might be enough to pull LSU from the fiery hellpit they'd dug for themselves. Not to be but I am now a full Harris believer. He is the future.
What did he make you believe?
Posted on 9/22/14 at 7:05 pm to LouisianaLonghorn
Would like to see more formations that you can rush or throw from...without giving away the intent before hand.
Other schools run them....Auburn uses that concept a lot.
Also, be UNPREDICTABLE
USE SHORT and MID RANGE passes, or Bama and others will STACK UP the middle as in the NC game knowing that the QB will not have time for long passes.
Other schools run them....Auburn uses that concept a lot.
Also, be UNPREDICTABLE
USE SHORT and MID RANGE passes, or Bama and others will STACK UP the middle as in the NC game knowing that the QB will not have time for long passes.
Posted on 9/22/14 at 8:45 pm to The Pirate King
Yep. We are paying these coaches millions to make the decision to "run up the middle" ...... Geniuses!!
Posted on 9/22/14 at 8:46 pm to lsuoilengr
I can imagine the coaches meetings:
Les: Ok guys. Dur dur dur.... I think we will dduurrrr dur dur run the ball. Duuuuurrrr
Crowton: Can we throw the ball
Les: ddduuuurrrrr...... no
Les: Ok guys. Dur dur dur.... I think we will dduurrrr dur dur run the ball. Duuuuurrrr
Crowton: Can we throw the ball
Les: ddduuuurrrrr...... no
Posted on 9/23/14 at 8:10 am to lsuoilengr
Out-dated offensive play calling... Even though Cam is an offensive mastermind... I think he is anyways... I believe the play calling still goes thru Les. Im not bashing Les, he is incredibly ballsy and intelligent. But on the other hand, its the same 1st-3rd Down plays before Cam got here: Dive, Toss, Screen. This isnt 2008, you have to change things up! Every D-coord knows what we are going to do, now did we have RB talent the last few years? YES, but now everyone and their momma knows thats the only thing we have now compared to loaded WR/RB corps of the past. New QB + New WR= STACK THE BOX!!!
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