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re: Advocate Article on J. Lee...
Posted on 8/12/10 at 4:52 pm to Antonio Moss
Posted on 8/12/10 at 4:52 pm to Antonio Moss
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If you don't believe me, fine. But, without a doubt, Quarterbacks try release the ball as high as possible on short routes over the middle because they want to travel downwards to the receiver.
Has nothing to do with wanting the ball to travel downwards. You release high on short passes to keep them from being tipped.
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Posted on 8/12/10 at 4:53 pm to TheDoc
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how are you so wrong all the time?
If I'm constantly wrong according to you then consider me Mr. Knowitall
Posted on 8/12/10 at 5:01 pm to FootballNostradamus
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Has nothing to do with wanting the ball to travel downwards.
Absolutely false.
You never want the ball moving upwards on short passes over the middle. It's a recipe for tipped balls and interceptions.
Posted on 8/12/10 at 5:50 pm to Antonio Moss
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Absolutely false.
You never want the ball moving upwards on short passes over the middle. It's a recipe for tipped balls and interceptions.
A few degrees difference in incoming trajectory is not what's gonna cause tipped balls. It's the collision off the hands/pads/helmet/whatever that causes the ball to tip up.
Posted on 8/12/10 at 5:51 pm to FootballNostradamus
Follow-up, segment on ESPN where Brandon Marshall talked about how some QBs throw difficult balls to catch with the nose pointing down so I guess receivers don't like balls with downward trajectory either.
Posted on 8/12/10 at 5:57 pm to ItTakesAThief
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I admire his toughness and grit to hang in there, in a situation where he is talented enough to play, just has not received the mental support from those around him
To be honest, why would coaches want to support said QB with a fan base breathing down their collective necks to axe the guy?
Posted on 8/12/10 at 6:24 pm to Antonio Moss
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but he felt the pressure and simply threw the ball to where the receiver is supposed to be in the route.
looked to me like he read the 1 on 1 coverage and was throwing when he got creamed from the blindside. I don't think he just heaved it up and made a wish.
but hey, interpret it how you want
LINK
Posted on 8/12/10 at 6:35 pm to FootballNostradamus
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Personally I will never forgive Crowton and Miles for massacring Lee's career. The way they handled him his first year was criminal and absolutely murdered this kid's psyche. And it sucks because physically he is Peyton Manning to Jefferson's Chad Pennington.
Also, like someone said, Les and some of Lee's teammates really shoulda been punched in the face for the way they commented on his play to the media.
Regardless of how he performs from here on out and regardless of the pick-sixes he's thrown I still respect him as much as any player on our team. How he isn't sitting in the corner of the locker room at McNeese and crying himself to sleep each night is beyong me. The guy has alligator tough skin.
I just hope there really is an open competition like people are professing. Many lump me in as a Lee-lover/Jefferson-hater and it's not that at all. I just feel like Jefferson has been given the position without really doing anything to separate himself from Lee. I don't care who starts as long as there was an honest competition and someone won.
Posted on 8/12/10 at 6:47 pm to Antonio Moss
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threw the ball to where the receiver is supposed to be in the route
Hmmmmm. Maybe I am missing a basic concept here. You mean he should hold on to the ball until the receiver has at least 5 yards of separation? That worked really well last year.
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This same practice caused a lot of INTs in 2008
FINALLY! You said something I can at least partially agree with. And Byrd (especially), and a couple of times LaFell and Mitchell cutting their routes off contributed to those interceptions. Interesting that a completed pass is viewed as a collaborative effort between the QB and receiver while an interception is put solely on the QB isn't it?
Posted on 8/12/10 at 6:59 pm to FootballNostradamus
re: Advocate Article on J. Lee...
Posted by TheDoc on 8/12 at 2:20 pm to FootballNostradamus
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What quarter was it when he was lost for the season?
One more time
Posted by TheDoc on 8/12 at 2:20 pm to FootballNostradamus
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That also doesn't factor in that Hatch played some in the third quarter.
What quarter was it when he was lost for the season?
One more time
Posted on 8/12/10 at 7:01 pm to TheDoc
I think all of you should watch JL's last pass vs OM in 2008.
should settle things.
should settle things.
Posted on 8/12/10 at 7:04 pm to BT
So were basing qb play on one play now?
Posted on 8/12/10 at 7:18 pm to TheDoc
I was referring to his scaredy cat mentality that many of you accuse him of.
This post was edited on 8/12/10 at 7:30 pm
Posted on 8/12/10 at 7:28 pm to TheDoc
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What quarter was it when he was lost for the season?
One more time
Hey arse-hat, here is the box score from the LSU-UGA game. I was trying to ignore you since you bring nothing to any thread you're in, but if you wanna push me that's fine. Now please go away.
You Suck
Posted on 8/12/10 at 7:33 pm to FootballNostradamus
I dont understand the reasoning about 4 or 5 posters have that involves tearing JL down to make JJ look better.
Im in sales and its sorta like if all I did during my sales meeting was spend my time tearing competitors product down instead of try to sell my own.
Its sad.
Im in sales and its sorta like if all I did during my sales meeting was spend my time tearing competitors product down instead of try to sell my own.
Its sad.
Posted on 8/12/10 at 7:35 pm to BT
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I was referring to his scardy cat mentality that many of you accuse him of.
Wait, let me see if I understand this. We criticize one QB of being scared while the other QB unquestionably would not throw the ball unless a recever was WIDE OPEN, had to be taken out of 5 games after being hit, covered up 34 times rather than throw a last second pass out of bounds, and ducked out the back door rather than face tough questions from sportswriters.
Anyone that would question the one QB over the other about their toughness is biased, and should never post in a QB thread again
Posted on 8/12/10 at 7:41 pm to TIsuGGER
Hit the nail on the head tigger.
Posted on 8/12/10 at 7:54 pm to TIsuGGER
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Wait, let me see if I understand this. We criticize one QB of being scared while the other QB unquestionably would not throw the ball unless a recever was WIDE OPEN, had to be taken out of 5 games after being hit, covered up 34 times rather than throw a last second pass out of bounds, and ducked out the back door rather than face tough questions from sportswriters.
Anyone that would question the one QB over the other about their toughness is biased, and should never post in a QB thread again
I kige this. Although, actually, it was 37 times he curled up behind the line of scrimmage, not 34. And JLee faced the press after every game in 2008, when his teammates, coaches and most of the fans had just spent 3 hours throwing him under the bus. His courage should not be questioned.
Posted on 8/12/10 at 8:05 pm to TIsuGGER
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and ducked out the back door rather than face tough questions from sportswriters.
This is the point where I finally decided that I'd rather suffer through a young man's growing pains, than put up with this crappy representation of LSU
Posted on 8/12/10 at 8:53 pm to DeltaDoc
I am not going to read through all the comments, but will say that I like Lee's attitude and am damn proud to have him as a Tiger.
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