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re: Advocate article this morning
Posted on 8/24/11 at 8:33 am to dos crystal
Posted on 8/24/11 at 8:33 am to dos crystal
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This cat has been in a burglary, he's a marine, and been kicked out of High school. I'd like to see his prior meds to clarify if this is a traumatic injury over something from his colorful past.
You are getting your cats mixed up.
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Posted on 8/24/11 at 8:34 am to Lithium
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ell, there's a chance Les might suspend Lee and maybe T-Bob, After all, they were in Baton Rouge Thursday night
No, JLee was in his room chattin it up with some chick on skype. T-Bob, well its T-Bob.
Posted on 8/24/11 at 8:34 am to Hulkklogan
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It's circumstantial.
In a court of law, it's not. Sorry. It gets you felony assault.
Posted on 8/24/11 at 8:34 am to dos crystal
Actually probably >95% of the time can tell how old a fracture is.
Posted on 8/24/11 at 8:34 am to dos crystal
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i can have a fx vertebrae or herniated disc right now. i don't tell the dr. i had before an accident, he can't tell. he has to trust my word.
Do x-rays not give an indication of how old of a fracture? Herniation I'm not sure of but I thought xrays could at least tell how old/new a fx was. Not trying to be ugly ... an honest question.
Posted on 8/24/11 at 8:36 am to CptBengal
If they can prove that the vertebrae was cracked by the football players, then yes, and that is inexcusable and I won't try to defend that at all. But all I'm saying is that can they actually prove that this instance caused 3 cracked vertebrae?
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The guy may have fallen down on a bar earlier in the day or something like that for all we know. Nobody knows how his day went prior to the fight
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The guy may have fallen down on a bar earlier in the day or something like that for all we know. Nobody knows how his day went prior to the fight
This post was edited on 8/24/11 at 8:38 am
Posted on 8/24/11 at 8:36 am to CptBengal
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That information can be read fro ma combination of radilogical and MRI images
a bone scan would need to be ordered to substantiate how old the fracture is, I'm sure the victims atty's will do that
Posted on 8/24/11 at 8:37 am to dos crystal
x-ray's determine fractures of the bone. MRI's are for tissue/disc.
Short-tau inversion recovery?
STIR sequence and acute fractures
Short-tau inversion recovery?
STIR sequence and acute fractures
Posted on 8/24/11 at 8:40 am to GoSaintz
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engaging in a fistic encounter
They are arresting you for this now. Dang, I have probably been on the most wanted list since I turned 12 in 1981.
Posted on 8/24/11 at 8:40 am to Hulkklogan
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I'm not saying that they didn't cause the vertebrae; nobody knows for sure, but nobody knows that they did either. It's circumstantial.
If the cops are comfortable enough to cite this in the news conference, I am giving the benefit of the doubt that this brawl is likely the cause... atleast at the arrest level... trial may be a different story.
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All reports have a football player kicking someone in the head; that doesn't sound conducive with cracked vertebrae unless they're high up in his spine.
I think you are confusing the two victims. The kick to the head was to the douche (Andrew) who became 'unconscious'. The vertebrae fractures on a different victim and we have had very limited reports on the who, what when where on him.
Posted on 8/24/11 at 8:42 am to Hulkklogan
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But all I'm saying is that can they actually prove that this instance caused 3 cracked vertebrae?
wow. The answer is yes.
Posted on 8/24/11 at 8:42 am to igoringa
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The kick to the head was to the douche (Andrew) who became 'unconscious'
I've been hearing he became unconscious because Landry knocked him the frick out after he pushed one of the players
Posted on 8/24/11 at 8:43 am to webstew
When you are in a wreck, and its your fault, you are responsible for any injuries, whether they are pre-existing or not. Is anyone positive beyond all doubt that it's any different in this case?
I.E. even if the injury was old -- which there is no evidence to suggest this -- wouldn't you still be responsible for aggrivating it?
I.E. even if the injury was old -- which there is no evidence to suggest this -- wouldn't you still be responsible for aggrivating it?
Posted on 8/24/11 at 8:43 am to Hulkklogan
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that would indicate that they didn't kick his head, but stomped his back imo.
what they did is immaterial.
broken vertebrae = felony assault.
Posted on 8/24/11 at 8:44 am to TheDoc
Don't start no shite, won't be no shite!
Posted on 8/24/11 at 8:46 am to CptBengal
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that would indicate that they didn't kick his head, but stomped his back imo.
Sucks. This whole incident would have just been another fight at a bar if the late punch / kick / stomp / whatever never happened.
Posted on 8/24/11 at 8:46 am to TheDoc
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Still can't get over how dumb this statement is
no shite.
Posted on 8/24/11 at 8:47 am to CptBengal
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i had before an accident, he can't tell.
you really think that
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any you call others a "moron"
yes, when they have no idea what they are talking about...yes.
A fresh injury with have soft tissue damage around the bone and inflammation consistent with an acute trauma that occurred relatively soon.
ETA: Not to mention other signs of a RECENT ACUTE trauma. Existing prolonged CHRONIC injuries have a much different pattern.
That information can be read fro ma combination of radilogical and MRI images.
You have become absurd. You are no saying that everyone from the alleged victims to the police are using false information...to railroad these 4 players.
Man, come on.
i've said the police used false info? sounds like someone is making shite up. I've never said the freaking players are innocent or i want them cleared.
unlike most, i believe in investigating to find the truth. you check out his priors and clarify if the injuries claimed were caused by trauma or pre-existed.
unlike you, i'm not "ASSUMING" what the "victim" is claiming is fact, true, or otherwise.
newsflash, there are untruthful people in the world that will say things for monetary benefit. i'm sorry you live in a bubble.
And, dr's can't always tell if a fx/injury on a x-ray/m.r.i. is trauma, degenerative, or pre-existed. this is a fact. i've heard 100's say as much in deposition. They rely on patients history.
Posted on 8/24/11 at 8:48 am to igoringa
To me it all comes down to whether or not the football players instigated this fight or the guys that got beat up did, or if both parties did some instigating. If the guys in the truck had anything to do with starting the fight then tough shite they got beat up. If all they did was honk their horn and this happened, then I don't want the 4 players to be at LSU anymore. Almost every fight I have ever seen has had both parties at fault though.
Posted on 8/24/11 at 8:49 am to EricB
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I.E. even if the injury was old -- which there is no evidence to suggest this -- wouldn't you still be responsible for aggrivating it?
you would be responsible for a new injury to an old area. ir If a person is being driven home from the hospital with a broken arm and gets t-boned and requires another surgery, the person causing it would be responsible
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