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re: Alternative/intuitive suspension for Mathieu

Posted on 8/11/12 at 12:31 am to
Posted by la_birdman
Northern GA via Lake Charles
Member since Feb 2005
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Posted on 8/11/12 at 12:31 am to
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weed offers no proven advantage in athletic competition.



Not the point. It's the school's policy. Plus the stuff is illegal.

Who hasn't puffed on a joint? Makes everything taste great!

Still, it's illegal and won't be tolerated for using it at LSU, which I think is great. There are boundaries set and the players know this.

I love TM, he is an amazing player and I'm not dogging him at all, I still am one of his biggest supporters, but there is a line and he crossed it a few times. Miles had no choice.

Either that or let the players lose respect for the coach and have it eventually turn into Miami or Florida St. God forbid, something like Penn State.

I wish TM the best, I really do. He is one of the best players I have ever seen, and a such a young age. It's like there were 2 #7's running around out there, he seems to be everywhere. Keep your head up and live within yourself, TM. You can do it.

Posted by TigersforEver
Alexandria, LA
Member since Aug 2008
1930 posts
Posted on 8/11/12 at 12:31 am to
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Don't get me wrong I am not saying that you proposal is wrong. The problem with it though is that the school has rules with penalties already set for what he did.


I can definitely see it from your point of view, and I'm really conflicted. It's just that, way before the batman quote, I have always felt that rigid rules like this take away from the compassionate human element of dealing with issues such as this. But then again, maybe TM WAS treated with a ton of compassion and understanding and he ignored it. Who knows.
Posted by RummelTiger
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Posted on 8/11/12 at 12:32 am to
lol...

Your arguments are hilarious.
Posted by fr33manator
Baton Rouge
Member since Oct 2010
134081 posts
Posted on 8/11/12 at 12:34 am to
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Exactly, it's only the athletes. While I agree that performance enhancing drugs should be stringently prohibited, weed offers no proven advantage in athletic competition.


I dunno. What if they told him there were funyuns in the end zone before a return?
Posted by RummelTiger
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Posted on 8/11/12 at 12:34 am to
Compassionate human element?

The frick?

He's a football player who was given MULTIPLE chances. Get off this nanny state kick.
Posted by TigersforEver
Alexandria, LA
Member since Aug 2008
1930 posts
Posted on 8/11/12 at 12:35 am to
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Wait, did you just use a quote from fricking Batman to prove your point?


Perhaps using the quote cheapened the message, but I have long believed what it conveys - rigid codes of conduct have a way of dehumanizing an institution or society.

And pleas, please, please don't compare this to Penn State... Jerry Sandusky raped children. Tyrann Mathieu smoked a plant that is only illegal because the government can't find an efficient way to tax it.
Posted by la_birdman
Northern GA via Lake Charles
Member since Feb 2005
32099 posts
Posted on 8/11/12 at 12:38 am to
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rigid codes of conduct have a way of dehumanizing an institution or society.



What?


Posted by RummelTiger
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Posted on 8/11/12 at 12:38 am to
Uh, wasn't gonna make that connection.

But, to your rules, I'm assuming that you either never played, or barely played organized sports. Because if you did, then you'd see why the rules need to be in place. Especially at that level.
Posted by TigersforEver
Alexandria, LA
Member since Aug 2008
1930 posts
Posted on 8/11/12 at 12:41 am to
Rummel - you are usually one of my favorite posters on here, and this is one of the few times I've disagreed with your position. However, seeing as Romney is about to pick Paul Ryan as his running mate, SOMEONE has to take the nanny state position in case our country starts to be run based on the philosophies of Ayn Rand.

And you are right about my sports background, I'm a skinny guy but I do love sports. And I hate to see this happen to a guy with so much talent and heart.
Posted by fr33manator
Baton Rouge
Member since Oct 2010
134081 posts
Posted on 8/11/12 at 12:42 am to
If only you could understand what it was like to be in the position of enforcing unpopular rules on otherwise positive contributors to a program, especially ones that were high profile and put forth quality work, rummy...
This post was edited on 8/11/12 at 12:43 am
Posted by RummelTiger
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Posted on 8/11/12 at 12:43 am to
I FAP to Ayn nightly.

Well, that cats outta the bag!
Posted by RummelTiger
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Member since Aug 2004
93294 posts
Posted on 8/11/12 at 12:47 am to
But do you not see that he did it to himself?

It was not the big, bad, institution. It was not stringent government rules.

It was Tyrann Mathieu not following the rules that his coach and school had set forth. All he had to do was NOT smoke weed!
Posted by TigersforEver
Alexandria, LA
Member since Aug 2008
1930 posts
Posted on 8/11/12 at 12:49 am to
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I FAP to Ayn nightly.



Now THAT is truly frightening... The funny thing is that her drug policy actually supports my position. But her social views...


If any civilization is to survive, it is the morality of altruism that men have to reject.
Ayn Rand

Posted by Broski
Member since Jun 2011
79915 posts
Posted on 8/11/12 at 12:55 am to
So was Tyrann your dealer or something?
Posted by Rocket
Member since Mar 2004
61117 posts
Posted on 8/11/12 at 12:55 am to
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of Ayn Rand.
Posted by dr smartass phd
RIP 8/19
Member since Sep 2004
20387 posts
Posted on 8/11/12 at 12:58 am to
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Compassionate human element? The frick? He's a football player who was given MULTIPLE chances. Get off this nanny state kick.


The future looks bright.
Posted by RummelTiger
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Member since Aug 2004
93294 posts
Posted on 8/11/12 at 12:58 am to
lol...

frick you, Doc!

BTW, how's the family?
This post was edited on 8/11/12 at 1:02 am
Posted by UnoMe
Here
Member since Dec 2007
6952 posts
Posted on 8/11/12 at 1:01 am to
"Flame away, but I think this would really help him learn to be less selfish."

Since when did this become TM7 University. He was told the ramifications of his actions more than once. He had the more to lose than anyone on the TEAM and he still fricked up. Shame on him, I don't feel sorry for him. Ya he's a great ball hawk, but dude get over it.

What do yo want the University of Miami 2.0
Posted by dr smartass phd
RIP 8/19
Member since Sep 2004
20387 posts
Posted on 8/11/12 at 1:01 am to
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lol... frick you, Doc!


Up yours you, Cue Ball headed Mr. Clean, Jim Cantore looking fig.
Posted by RummelTiger
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Member since Aug 2004
93294 posts
Posted on 8/11/12 at 1:02 am to
Your commas need some work...
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