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Posted on 4/16/09 at 11:22 am to
Posted by tLSU
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Posted on 4/16/09 at 11:22 am to
Exactly, you don't think it's a problem at all. Losing multiple midweek games at the beginning of this season, despite our great performance in conference, has landed us with a 16 due to our schedule being ranked in the 30's.

We can either start winning the midweek games we should be easily winning, dominate the conference, or gamble with the selection committee.
Posted by josh336
baton rouge
Member since Jan 2007
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Posted on 4/16/09 at 11:25 am to
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Exactly, you don't think it's a problem at all.

I didn't say this.
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Losing multiple midweek games at the beginning of this season, despite our great performance in conference, has landed us with a 16 due to our schedule being ranked in the 30's.

Its really not as bad as you make it sound, you do realize we have Tennessee and Miss. St. on the schedule still? It might not make our RPI go up that much, but winning those series, sweeping one of them, could help.
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We can either start winning the midweek games we should be easily winning,

again, no one wins all of their midweek games
Posted by josh336
baton rouge
Member since Jan 2007
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Posted on 4/16/09 at 11:30 am to
I really don't get what point you are trying to make. Yes, we need to play well down the stretch, I think everyone knows that. I'd be shocked if Mainieri starts more than 1 or 2 reserves in midweek games for the rest of the year. I think what he saw last night prob left a bad taste in his mouth, and I think he'll learn from it.
Posted by JustSmokin
Member since Sep 2007
9162 posts
Posted on 4/16/09 at 11:34 am to
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We can either start winning the midweek games we should be easily winning, dominate the conference, or gamble with the selection committee.

So they will hold those losses against LSU and not the other top teams?

Everyone loses to teams they shouldn't. Check out Tuesday's results. You need to pay more attention to college baseball.
Posted by tLSU
Member since Oct 2007
8682 posts
Posted on 4/16/09 at 11:40 am to
The point I'm trying to make is that this isn't just another "oh well, it's a midweek game" situation. Good teams lose midweek games, but not to #223. We need to play better down the stretch than we have so far.

There's an attitude here that we can win 2/3 in the conference and then give up "meaningless" midweek games. If you look at the top 16 teams, there are a lot that can make every bit as much a case of being National Seed worthy as LSU. Thus, we need to get into as good a position as possible. We've dropped 5 spots since Sunday. ULL and Tulane losses would have a similar effect, and looking ahead we don't have many possibilities to make huge jumps.

My point is that we're playing ourselves into a position of being a "bubble" national seed team as opposed to being a lock for one, and we're doing it through carelessness in the midweek, which people excuse. I don't know about you, but I certainly don't want to be sitting at #22 on selection day and hoping our Stadium gets us a spot.
Posted by josh336
baton rouge
Member since Jan 2007
82266 posts
Posted on 4/16/09 at 11:47 am to
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Good teams lose midweek games, but not to #223.

Yes, they do.
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We need to play better down the stretch than we have so far.

If we keep our pace in the SEC, and keep our pace in midweek games, we'll get to host a super regional
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There's an attitude here that we can win 2/3 in the conference and then give up "meaningless" midweek games

check our record in midweek games, we are not that bad
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If you look at the top 16 teams, there are a lot that can make every bit as much a case of being National Seed worthy as LSU

true, but this is almost always the case, and the name and stadium give us an advantage
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and looking ahead we don't have many possibilities to make huge jumps.

winning games will help us move up, even if it isn't against top 50 rpi teams
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My point is that we're playing ourselves into a position of being a "bubble" national seed team as opposed to being a lock for one, and we're doing it through carelessness in the midweek, which people excuse. I don't know about you, but I certainly don't want to be sitting at #22 on selection day and hoping our Stadium gets us a spot.

I think its funny how much emphasis people put on this national seed stuff
Posted by tLSU
Member since Oct 2007
8682 posts
Posted on 4/16/09 at 11:49 am to
It's hilarious how much emphasis they put.

After all, we've been to Omaha countless times that we haven't hosted a Super Regional, right?
Posted by josh336
baton rouge
Member since Jan 2007
82266 posts
Posted on 4/16/09 at 11:50 am to
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After all, we've been to Omaha countless times that we haven't hosted a Super Regional, right?

True, we have.
Posted by tLSU
Member since Oct 2007
8682 posts
Posted on 4/16/09 at 12:07 pm to
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True, we have.



Posted by josh336
baton rouge
Member since Jan 2007
82266 posts
Posted on 4/16/09 at 12:37 pm to
we have, don't see why you are laughing
Posted by BaysideBama
Gulf Shores - Alabama's beach
Member since Sep 2008
224 posts
Posted on 4/16/09 at 12:43 pm to
RIce, wow.

Bama in ANY regional is a joke.
We wont make the SEC tourney much less the lesser big dance. Gotta hand it to the Rival guys.
Posted by tLSU
Member since Oct 2007
8682 posts
Posted on 4/16/09 at 2:18 pm to
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we have, don't see why you are laughing


We have? Countless times?

1986 - Baton Rouge
1987 - Baton Rouge
1989 - College Station
1990 - Baton Rouge
1991 - Baton Rouge
1992 - Baton Rouge (Lost)
1993 - Baton Rouge
1994 - Baton Rouge
1995 - Baton Rouge (Lost)
1996 - Baton Rouge
1997 - Baton Rouge
1998 - Baton Rouge
1999 - Lost in Tuscaloosa
2000 - Baton Rouge
2001 - Lost in Metairie
2002 - Lost in Houston
2003 - Baton Rouge
2004 - Baton Rouge
2008 - Baton Rouge

We have a helluva track record when not hosting.
This post was edited on 4/16/09 at 2:20 pm
Posted by josh336
baton rouge
Member since Jan 2007
82266 posts
Posted on 4/16/09 at 2:23 pm to
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After all, we've been to Omaha countless times that we haven't hosted a Super Regional, right?

This is what you said
Now why your are bringing up Regional (not Super Regional) Locations, I have no idea.
Posted by tLSU
Member since Oct 2007
8682 posts
Posted on 4/16/09 at 2:28 pm to
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This is what you said
Now why your are bringing up Regional (not Super Regional) Locations, I have no idea.


I'm sorry you're a moron and have resorted to arguing semantics as to what took place before the Super Regional format started. That's typically what happens when someone who doesn't have the slightest clue what he's talking about gets into an argument.

Either way, you still look like a fool for saying that you don't see the big deal about National Seeds....but then again 90% of what you've said in this thread makes you like a fool.
Posted by Xenophon
Aspen
Member since Feb 2006
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Posted on 4/16/09 at 2:29 pm to
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Losing multiple midweek games at the beginning of this season,

when did this happen... we are 2/3 of the way through the season and JUST lost our 3rd mid week game..
Posted by josh336
baton rouge
Member since Jan 2007
82266 posts
Posted on 4/16/09 at 2:30 pm to
How many national seeds made it to Omaha last year? I'm not saying its not a good thing to have happen, I'm just saying people overhype the shite out of it. We lost to Rice, Bama, and Tulane because they were better teams. With a better matchup, we could definitely win a Super on the road.
Posted by tLSU
Member since Oct 2007
8682 posts
Posted on 4/16/09 at 2:33 pm to
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when did this happen... we are 2/3 of the way through the season and JUST lost our 3rd mid week game..


Apparently multiple means something other than "more than one" to you. Is it like...7?

Losing midweek games to teams that aren't even considered on the bubble, along with one to a team that's too bad to even be considered a bottom feeder, will come back to hurt us if we can't beat them the second time around.
Posted by bfniii
Member since Nov 2005
17840 posts
Posted on 4/16/09 at 2:33 pm to
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There's an attitude here that we can win 2/3 in the conference and then give up "meaningless" midweek games
it's not an attitude, it's a reality of college baseball. and no one is saying "give up" those games. again, it happens to all teams. also, you're implying that lsu have a laissez-faire attitude towards them all which is not the case.

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If you look at the top 16 teams, there are a lot that can make every bit as much a case of being National Seed worthy as LSU.
minus the attraction and stadium. plus, lsu is as worthy as any other team

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My point is that we're playing ourselves into a position of being a "bubble" national seed team as opposed to being a lock for one, and we're doing it through carelessness in the midweek, which people excuse.
there's really no truth to this statement at all. it's a complete fabrication of your imagination
Posted by tLSU
Member since Oct 2007
8682 posts
Posted on 4/16/09 at 2:37 pm to
Yes, no truth to the statement at all. RPI doesn't matter at all. Our SoS doesn't decline from here on out. Letting Tulane and ULL beat us a second time will have no impact on anything, because our already low RPI is irrelevant. It's our stadium that counts. The selection committee would easily throw us in as a 22 or 25. Crazy imagination I have.
This post was edited on 4/16/09 at 2:38 pm
Posted by josh336
baton rouge
Member since Jan 2007
82266 posts
Posted on 4/16/09 at 2:41 pm to
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Yes, no truth to the statement at all. RPI doesn't matter at all. Our SoS doesn't decline from here on out.

What is the matter with you, no one is saying it doesn't matter. At our current pace, if we continue to play the way we have throughout the season, we'll host a regional and a super. Somehow I guess you think the attitude of the fans on here effects the team. Even though players are quoted as saying stuff like last night can't happen again. What else do you want?
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Letting Tulane and ULL beat us a second time will have no impact on anything

Also, why are you resigned to this as fact? These games haven't been played yet.
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