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Posted on 10/4/11 at 8:58 am to
Posted by bee Rye
New orleans
Member since Jan 2006
34496 posts
Posted on 10/4/11 at 8:58 am to
there is a reason these don't factor in until later in the season. They need a lot of data in order for them to sort out. Come week 8, we will be up at the top of most of these computer polls
Posted by tirebiter
7K R&G chile land aka SF
Member since Oct 2006
10801 posts
Posted on 10/4/11 at 8:59 am to
UO and WVU haven't had tough schedules other than LSU, beating creampuffs only helps SOS so much no matter the gaudy offensive stats, which effects LSU's standings. Bama beat AR and UF, AR beat A&M, what's hard to understand. LSU just needs to keep taking care of business.
Posted by Nuts4LSU
Washington, DC
Member since Oct 2003
25468 posts
Posted on 10/4/11 at 9:00 am to
quote:

Clemson ahead of us in both polls


Well, at least that makes SOME sense, given they've also beaten three ranked teams, but Texas? Iowa State is arguably the toughest team they've played. Iowa freaking State! And not only is Texas ahead of us, but their SCHEDULE IS TOUGHER!?!?!?!?!

Posted by txtiger21
Dallas, TX
Member since Jul 2010
304 posts
Posted on 10/4/11 at 9:00 am to
"Aside from the top 2, Clemson has accomplished the most through the first 5 weeks, followed by Boise St., LSU, Oklahoma St., Michigan, Oklahoma, Stanford, and Illinois"

Really? Boise has accomplished more than us so far?
Posted by baytiger
Boston
Member since Dec 2007
46978 posts
Posted on 10/4/11 at 9:01 am to
ITT: people who don't understand computer polls
Posted by GumboPot
Member since Mar 2009
139724 posts
Posted on 10/4/11 at 9:01 am to
The computers loving Boise State.
Posted by Powerman
Member since Jan 2004
172043 posts
Posted on 10/4/11 at 9:05 am to
quote:

there is a reason these don't factor in until later in the season. They need a lot of data in order for them to sort out. Come week 8, we will be up at the top of most of these computer polls


Right. People need to relax. These computer polls are always much more rational looking as the season marches on when there is a lot more data.
Posted by bee Rye
New orleans
Member since Jan 2006
34496 posts
Posted on 10/4/11 at 9:10 am to
need to wait until everyone is at least into the thick of their conference schedules before SOS makes any sense at all. People don't realize its not just who you play, but who the teams you played have played in addition to your team, etc etc
Posted by LSU Tigerhead
Metairie
Member since Nov 2007
5165 posts
Posted on 10/4/11 at 9:16 am to
We need to come up with our own ranking system. Hrm, I may work on this... develop an algorithm then write a program to do the calculations.

The only problem is finding the data in one place like schedules and results for 120+ teams.

EDIT: Isn't there a TD guy who already does this?
This post was edited on 10/4/11 at 9:17 am
Posted by TenTex
Member since Jan 2008
15949 posts
Posted on 10/4/11 at 9:21 am to
It's our offensive stats and the passing yards we gave up to WV.
Not surprised by this on these 2 polls.
Posted by FTL Tiger
Fort Lauderdale
Member since Jun 2008
540 posts
Posted on 10/4/11 at 9:21 am to
LSUMatt. I believe he teaches Mathematics at UT in Austin.
Posted by Powerman
Member since Jan 2004
172043 posts
Posted on 10/4/11 at 9:41 am to
quote:

It's our offensive stats and the passing yards we gave up to WV.
Not surprised by this on these 2 polls.


I didn't know they factored this into the polls

Are you sure that they do?
Posted by Weaver
Madisonville, LA
Member since Nov 2005
28080 posts
Posted on 10/4/11 at 9:42 am to
quote:

LSUMatt.


He is the man on this stuff. Where is he at?
Posted by rbdallas
Dallas, TX
Member since Nov 2007
10346 posts
Posted on 10/4/11 at 9:44 am to
according to the chart Boise has played a stronger schedule ???


that's what's weird to me....
the WV game did stack the numbers against us for now

quote:

there is a reason these don't factor in until later in the season. They need a lot of data in order for them to sort out. Come week 8, we will be up at the top of most of these computer polls


+ 1 Limited data = skewed results, it will become more accurate as data grows.
This post was edited on 10/4/11 at 9:49 am
Posted by jcole4lsu
The Kwisatz Haderach
Member since Nov 2007
31980 posts
Posted on 10/4/11 at 9:45 am to
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Glad they wait until Week 8 for the first BCS Rankings...


hope you dont think thats a coincidence. computers are not subjective, they are objective, and need large data sets to make produce accurate results.

anyone bitching about computer rankings this early in the season is just pretty stupid
Posted by Draconian Sanctions
Markey's bar
Member since Oct 2008
88500 posts
Posted on 10/4/11 at 9:45 am to
Computer polls are not designed to be accurate until all the date has been entered (ie all games have been played)
Posted by tjtiger9
MS
Member since Aug 2005
4012 posts
Posted on 10/4/11 at 9:51 am to
How the hell does Alabama have a higher SOS than LSU witht he likes of North Texas and Kent St on there?!?!?!?!!?
Posted by ChemE in the OP
The Flats
Member since Apr 2011
6382 posts
Posted on 10/4/11 at 9:53 am to
The Colley Matrix isn't designed to be accurate until after 6 or 7 weeks of games.

Nothing to see here...
Posted by baytiger
Boston
Member since Dec 2007
46978 posts
Posted on 10/4/11 at 10:00 am to
quote:



The only problem is finding the data in one place like schedules and results for 120+ teams.


LINK
Posted by baytiger
Boston
Member since Dec 2007
46978 posts
Posted on 10/4/11 at 10:02 am to
quote:


The Colley Matrix isn't designed to be accurate until after 6 or 7 weeks of games.


it's not designed to be an indicator of future performance at all

it's designed to evaluate which teams have accomplished the most based on all available win/loss data. therefore it's not "accurate" until all the data is in.. therefore after the BCSNCG is played.
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