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re: Bigger problems than coaching..
Posted on 10/2/17 at 8:58 am to Rickdaddy4188
Posted on 10/2/17 at 8:58 am to Rickdaddy4188
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we have a shite head coach.
deal with it
Not disputing that.
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they represent talent.
my god please tell me you dont think your tv broadcast based opinion is better than people that GET PAID TO EVALUATE TALENT.
Not at all. I evaluate by the fact that Star ratings don't translate to NFL talent.
Just because you get paid to do something, doesn't mean you are good at it. Every ranking system has people in different positions on the board. Why? Because it is subjective. A 2* can end up being a pro bowler while a 5* is a bust.
Take your condescension elsewhere.
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Posted on 10/2/17 at 9:00 am to Dawgfan128
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Good god. Just in this thread alone you have made several personal attacks on posters. You seriously have issues.
if by several you mean you and the guy that actually said Lsu doesnt have the talent to beat troy then yeah several posters.
there isnt a poster on this site that you havent made an unprovoked personal attack on.youre an alter and everyone knows it.
Posted on 10/2/17 at 9:04 am to bayou85
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Not at all. I evaluate by the fact that Star ratings don't translate to NFL talent.
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Just because you get paid to do something, doesn't mean you are good at it.
it carries more weight than some anonymous message board poster. these people actuslly talk to coaches and watch film (all 22 film).
its pretty amazing how not a singke poster said we weren't talented before o.got raped by a sec bottom dweller.
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Take your condescension elsewhere.
ill keep it right here as long as youre spouting bullshite that lsu doesnt have the talent to beat troy.
we have a shite head coach. deal with it.
Posted on 10/2/17 at 9:06 am to Rickdaddy4188
So if LSU is talented shouldn't they have dominated Troy. Because obviously my idiot eyes didn't see that happen. Speak on it dumbass
Posted on 10/2/17 at 9:06 am to Dawgfan128
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It's called being objective and giving a guy a chance. I've also stated that I'll be a harsh critic when warranted.
Ok. Ummm. Did you watch Sat night?
It's warranted. This has been the worst stretch of LSU football I've ever seen and I began attending games in the 70's as a kid. It's a direct flashback to the 6 straight losing seasons we endured about 25 years ago. This is what a collapsed program under poor coaching looks like. It can happen quick and the effects can be long lasting. If you've never seen it it's very easy to confuse it for something else and feel the need for patience. Fine. Pass the blame to another area. Give the coach a chance. It's going to get worse. We are not at the bottom yet. Keep watching.
Posted on 10/2/17 at 9:06 am to biggdogg
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Coaching has nothing to do with it
Your credibility was shot with the first line of this bullshite paragraph
Posted on 10/2/17 at 9:10 am to Dawgfan128
DP stop trying so hard
Posted on 10/2/17 at 9:11 am to Rickdaddy4188
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ill keep it right here as long as youre spouting bull shite that lsu doesnt have the talent to beat troy.
Literally never said that. I think you have two convos going and are confused.
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we have a shite head coach. deal with it.
agree.
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it carries more weight than some anonymous message board poster. these people actuslly talk to coaches and watch film (all 22 film).
I didn't say I know more. I said *s dont matter in reality. 37 pro bowler were 3* or lower last year.
Never said I know more from TV. I looked it up.
You are so angry that you are attacking me for things i never said. Literally never wrote.
Posted on 10/2/17 at 9:13 am to biggdogg
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So if LSU is talented shouldn't they have dominated Troy. Because obviously my idiot eyes didn't see that happen. Speak on it dumbass
wait, youre really saying lsu doesnt have the talent to beat troy?
holy shite
Posted on 10/2/17 at 9:16 am to bayou85
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didn't say I know more. I said *s dont matter in reality. 37 pro bowler were 3* or lower last year.
recruiting rankings matter.
if we had 4-5 of our 4 and 5 star recruits not pan out thatsp one thing but when 52 of them cant beat troy, its coaching. surely you dont agree that all 52 4 and 5 star lsu players were busts or overrated.
but yes i probably went a little overboard in our back and forth. i apologize.
This post was edited on 10/2/17 at 9:18 am
Posted on 10/2/17 at 9:16 am to Rickdaddy4188
Troy 24 LSU 21 Troy wins Lsu loses
Posted on 10/2/17 at 9:17 am to bayou85
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I didn't say I know more. I said *s dont matter in reality. 37 pro bowler were 3* or lower last year.
Because there are 1,000 more 3*'s in high school than any other star rating. No shite there are going to be more successful ones when there are more in general. It's already been proven that 80% of the rated five star guys end up being great players. There's roughly 30 of them per class and all are rated properly
This post was edited on 10/2/17 at 9:18 am
Posted on 10/2/17 at 9:17 am to allsports34
YAW YAW YAW YAW WE NEED MO TIME
Posted on 10/2/17 at 9:20 am to Rickdaddy4188
It doesn't matter. If you knew anything about recruiting and followed it you would know that no matter who the kid is if he commits to Alabama he instantly gets a star bump.
Posted on 10/2/17 at 9:20 am to Rickdaddy4188
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recruiting rankings matter.
if we had 4-5 of our 4 ans 5 star recruitsnot pan out that one thing but when 52 of them cant beat troy, its coaching. surely you dont agree that all 52 4 and 5 star lsu players were busts or overrated
They do matter. But its not 100% effective.
And yes, O is a major issue. but its not all him. LSU was not going to be successful this year. But we are stuck with him for at least another year. Its alleva's fault. Fire alleva should be trending every day until he is gone!
Posted on 10/2/17 at 9:20 am to Dawgfan128
quote:We just lost to troy, Saturday night, in tiger stadium.
I'll be a harsh critic when warranted.
You ignorant frick, it's beyond warranted!
Posted on 10/2/17 at 9:20 am to biggdogg
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Troy 24 LSU 21 Troy wins Lsu lose
because of shite coaching. our HC didnt even know what was going on on the field.
i cant believe im discussing whether or not lsu has more talent than troy.
Posted on 10/2/17 at 9:23 am to bayou85
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They do matter. But its not 100% effective.
well nothing in talent evaluation is a sure thing but recruiting rankings are surprisingly accurate.
they pick 30 5 star athletes out of 2500 possible recruits and 50% of them make ot to the nfl. thats pretty dang amazing
Posted on 10/2/17 at 9:23 am to Dawgfan128
pie chart battles on %blame for collapsed program. Booger says line is soft. I tend to believe him. booger says they are not taking up the playbook. I tend to believe him. booger also says the OC and scheme are disconnected and that falls on the head coach. people saying it is all one or the other are missing the boat. coach gets a few years to coach, the four and five star stuff doesn't always bear out. it is obvious that this team can't or won't run the scheme Canada was brought here to run. why is that the case? watched game again, no one scape goat. DL pushed back and out physicaled. OL in max protect couldn't hold the line. edges getting beat regularly and not picking up swaps and stunts. not singling out names or numbers, but am guessing that limits what you can run.
not knowing #4 is getting the ball on first play is obvious indicator that there is disconnect with HC and OC. . not giving it to #28 is poor judgment by OC. don't think any of that stops Troy from pushing lsu around, but maybe it saves a turnover and brook trout effect, which has returned to tiger town. Saban ran the brook trout away, but they are back swimming in the lsu lakes. so how many ways can we avoid saying we are soft and disconnected and can't comprehend the playbook and we will play harder next week? 7 straight weeks worth of opportunities coming up. someone should string them all together. Brook trout are back. end of next year will be the decision time, at least for a coordinator, because it isn't happening this year, folks. the Bama beating at home next year will be bad optics, so if all we get is same offense we had with a few jet sweeps, the OC will be the first correction. so the qbs will transition to another system mid career, which will fail. so the No O crowd will have to wait until end of year three for the buyout.
not knowing #4 is getting the ball on first play is obvious indicator that there is disconnect with HC and OC. . not giving it to #28 is poor judgment by OC. don't think any of that stops Troy from pushing lsu around, but maybe it saves a turnover and brook trout effect, which has returned to tiger town. Saban ran the brook trout away, but they are back swimming in the lsu lakes. so how many ways can we avoid saying we are soft and disconnected and can't comprehend the playbook and we will play harder next week? 7 straight weeks worth of opportunities coming up. someone should string them all together. Brook trout are back. end of next year will be the decision time, at least for a coordinator, because it isn't happening this year, folks. the Bama beating at home next year will be bad optics, so if all we get is same offense we had with a few jet sweeps, the OC will be the first correction. so the qbs will transition to another system mid career, which will fail. so the No O crowd will have to wait until end of year three for the buyout.
Posted on 10/2/17 at 9:24 am to Rickdaddy4188
What play was that when he didn't know what was going on so I can go back and watch
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