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re: Blake Money Relief Pitching
Posted on 5/11/22 at 8:57 am to SammyTiger
Posted on 5/11/22 at 8:57 am to SammyTiger
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Every pitcher in the team besides Money who looked like our ace till he got hurt.
Every starter you mean?
On a team that still only has 1 weekend starter
You know the strength of this team is the bullpen, right?
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Posted on 5/11/22 at 9:00 am to SammyTiger
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I meam We saw a bunch of 85 MOH junk ballers in the preseason and seamed to his them just fine.
The SEC is just better hitters. He just didn’t have his stuff going early in the season.
You're right but those weren't Hillard caliber pitchers. Those were guys with flat 85mph and sub par offspeed.
Posted on 5/11/22 at 9:05 am to The Ostrich
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You're right but those weren't Hillard caliber pitchers. Those were guys with flat 85mph and sub par offspeed.
So Maine doesn’t see guys like Hilliard every week. Which was the original argument
I think hes One of those guys that needs to get going, but he isn’t exactly dazzling. He gave up 4 ER in 4 innings last weekend
This post was edited on 5/11/22 at 9:07 am
Posted on 5/11/22 at 9:09 am to CecilShortsHisPants
He pulled something in his left leg during one of the early SEC starts as well.
This post was edited on 5/11/22 at 9:11 am
Posted on 5/11/22 at 9:22 am to SammyTiger
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So Southern and Maine don’t see guys like Hilliard every week. Which was the original arguement
They see guys significantly closer to what Hillard is than what Money is. You're right Hillard probably didn't have his best stuff early season, but who does? My whole argument is that when you're throwing 8-10mph harder than teams are used to seeing it doesn't matter if you have your best stuff. You're going to blow it by them.
Hillard on the other hand couldn't just blow it by them. When he was off, he got punished for it. Him getting hit around early season probably gave him a pretty good idea on what he needs to work on/fix.
Money on the other hand didn't struggle at all. Gets to SEC play and gets hammered because those shitty teams we were playing before didn't make him pay for mistake pitches like the SEC hitters do. 93-95mph over the plate to them was extremely hard to hit while in the SEC that's a meatball.
Posted on 5/11/22 at 9:28 am to The Ostrich
The talent did get better but I think a lot of this is between the ears. Money was on the short end of some brutal inning extending errors early in the year, that he has not been able to shake. If LSU makes a deep run they will need a quality start from Money or 4-5 innings at some point.
Posted on 5/11/22 at 9:32 am to Lester Earl
Eh. He looked a lot different after hurting his wrist. He went from our best pitcher to absolute liability. I don't think it is 100% competition. One thing I have noticed is his fastball is board straight now with no movement, which is why he is either been walking or getting crushed.
Posted on 5/11/22 at 9:52 am to southerngent1417
I'm not so sure that he is finished in his starting role but if he is, so be it. We need him to be good and he needed the work last night. I think we saw him for a couple of reasons, he had only thrown like 5 innings in the last month and it was a good safe test to see what he looked like coming out of the pen. Struck out 3 of 5, threw strikes and missed some bats. If he doesn't give up the long ball he is good, it's that simple.
Posted on 5/11/22 at 9:57 am to The Ostrich
quote:Even in the SEC, 95 is exceptional. We don't have a single guy who consistently throws that fast.
In the SEC its pretty much the opposite. 95mph is the standard
This post was edited on 5/11/22 at 9:59 am
Posted on 5/11/22 at 10:07 am to Gravitiger
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Even in the SEC, 95 is exceptional. We don't have a single guy who consistently throws that fast.
It was a ballpark number as was 85mph. I don't know the exact mph Money avgs on his fastball.
Posted on 5/11/22 at 10:10 am to The Ostrich
Regardless, 95 is not "the standard" in the SEC. Not even close. It's not even "the standard" in MLB.
This post was edited on 5/11/22 at 10:12 am
Posted on 5/11/22 at 10:12 am to Gravitiger
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Regardless, 95 is not "the standard" in the SEC. Not even close.
So LSU isn't seeing guys in the low-mid 90s every weekend?
Posted on 5/11/22 at 10:19 am to The Ostrich
No. We've only seen maybe a couple of starters this whole year who could consistently hit 95. Occasionally touching low 90's doesn't make 95 "the standard." Even if we did see it once a weekend, that wouldn't make it "the standard."
If it were "the standard" we--as the #3 team in the conference with a great bullpen--would have at least one guy on our whole staff who could do it.
If it were "the standard" we--as the #3 team in the conference with a great bullpen--would have at least one guy on our whole staff who could do it.
This post was edited on 5/11/22 at 10:23 am
Posted on 5/11/22 at 10:30 am to Gravitiger
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If it were "the standard" we--as the #3 team in the conference with a great bullpen--would have at least one guy on our whole staff who could do it.
We do...Reyzelman, Gervase, Money are all in the consistently in the low-mid 90s. Not occasionally touching low 90s. Those are just the ones off the top my head, I'm sure there are more.
Posted on 5/11/22 at 10:33 am to Rtowntiger
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One thing I have noticed is his fastball is board straight now with no movement, which is why he is either been walking or getting crushed.
It’s always been flat, the competition is just better & it’s easy to hit
Posted on 5/11/22 at 10:35 am to southerngent1417
Let Money come in and throw all he got for an inning or so. May fit his personality better.
Posted on 5/11/22 at 10:36 am to The Ostrich
quote:How many of them throw 95 as "the standard"?
We do...Reyzelman, Gervase, Money are all in the consistently in the low-mid 90s. Not occasionally touching low 90s. Those are just the ones off the top my head, I'm sure there are more.
You've changed the parameters to "low-mid 90s" now.
This post was edited on 5/11/22 at 10:36 am
Posted on 5/11/22 at 10:45 am to southerngent1417
Our record in SEC when he starts is terrible, but great in when anyone else does. He has not been the same pitcher since his injury, I've got to believe it is a confidence issue because it was not a severe injury and if he was having pain, he would have missed starts.
For now it's probably best for him to relieve and hopefully he can get his confidence and pitch command back sooner than later
For now it's probably best for him to relieve and hopefully he can get his confidence and pitch command back sooner than later
Posted on 5/11/22 at 10:54 am to Gravitiger
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How many of them throw 95 as "the standard"?
You've changed the parameters to "low-mid 90s" now.
Reyzelman for one. I also told you that 95mph was a ballpark number a few post up before you made your argument that we have guys occasionally touching low 90s which is simply false. We have plenty of guys that are consistently low-mid just like every other team in the SEC.
You're taking the actual number 95 and getting your panties in a wad over it when in reality its irrelevant to the point of my original post. Would you like me to change it to 93mph is the standard instead? If you think that 2 mph makes that big of a difference then you probably agree that 85-88mph looks a hell of alot different that 92-95mph.
Posted on 5/11/22 at 10:56 am to southerngent1417
This is the same guy who didn’t make the travel squad for post season and was almost cut from the team? Let’s not act like our expectations of him were through the roof when he stepped on campus. I understand he worked his butt off in the off-season but ones ceiling can only go so high. He’ll make a good relief pitcher down the road but he need to work on his emotions on the mound first before being out into a crucial role again.
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