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re: Both teams looked very beatable
Posted on 11/6/11 at 1:14 pm to Jcorye1
Posted on 11/6/11 at 1:14 pm to Jcorye1
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And in five of those games, the winning teams scored 24 or less.
Variance is a really cool thing to learn if you're going to start using averages.
In fact, you are a total moron. The median winning team's score was 37. This means that the results are actually skewed LOWER than they should be. Recall that the average score was 33. Since the median is higher than that, 33 is a low indication of what the scoring trend has been.
So what were you saying about variance? Were you trying to point out that my stats were actually selling my argument short
?
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Posted on 11/6/11 at 1:14 pm to TheSexecutioner
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But, let me ask, what makes everyone so confident that a team with an adequate defense and awesome passing offense(Boise, Stanford, OU, Oklahoma St) couldn't beat LSU(team with awesome defense but only adequate offense?)
You need to understand that the teams you mentioned, has to put up between 40 and 60 points each week just to win a game...so when said teams encounter a team with a strong defense they lose 95% of the time....Stanford encountered a young strong defense (USC) last week, and had to go into 3 ots to win the game....Boise st. struggles against the like of san jose st. oklahoma lost to texas tech..why? because they dont have the defense everyone thought they had...okie st.hasnt faced a worthy defense yet.. As for the NFL,,all superbowl winners were really recognized by their strong DEFENSE.....B-more ravens proved that you dont need a high powered offense to win the BIG GAME.........
Posted on 11/6/11 at 1:15 pm to TheSexecutioner
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And of those 5 games(out of 13), only 1 did the winning team score less than 20. You are a total fool if you think that those numbers are very scewed by a non-normal distribution. I don't feel like calculating the variance, but from the looks of it, it is not very high.
In 9 of the games, the winner was over a TD away from the average. Thanks for playing
Posted on 11/6/11 at 1:15 pm to snake1
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Stanford encountered a young strong defense (USC) last week, and had to go into 3 ots to win the game
Agreed, and even still, there defense is nothing compared to ours.
That said, they have frikin' Matt Barkley.
Posted on 11/6/11 at 1:16 pm to TheSexecutioner
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LSU missed 2 wide open receivers for TDs. Nobody wants to address that. Do you people truly believe Luck wouldn't have made those throws?
No...Luck would not have made those throws. Why? He would not have had the time to do so. That's the point with defense...confuse the QB and rush him. He'll make mistakes or throw off target. If he does the latter with such a ferocious defense, that equals turnover (as you saw).
Posted on 11/6/11 at 1:16 pm to TheSexecutioner
One was beatable.
Either would most likely beat the living $hit out of whoever the Big 12 champ is... Stanford is good, but they don't have a physical D. Boise St. is really good, but they don't play anyone and would likely become overwhelmed by the physical nature/athleticism of the best of the SEC.
Our offenses are actually good except when going against other powerhouse SEC teams.
And both of the pass defenses are awesome. That is all these other teams' bread and butter. Without that, they have nothing.
Either would most likely beat the living $hit out of whoever the Big 12 champ is... Stanford is good, but they don't have a physical D. Boise St. is really good, but they don't play anyone and would likely become overwhelmed by the physical nature/athleticism of the best of the SEC.
Our offenses are actually good except when going against other powerhouse SEC teams.
And both of the pass defenses are awesome. That is all these other teams' bread and butter. Without that, they have nothing.
This post was edited on 11/6/11 at 1:22 pm
Posted on 11/6/11 at 1:17 pm to TheSexecutioner
Well i heard an NFL guy say this morning ,when asked how many future NFL players hit the filed last night, he said it was the most he;'d ever seen. Even more so than the 2005 Championships game between Texas and USC. They only had 66 players go on to the NFL. Anyone whose every played any big time sports knows the defense wins championships. LSU or Bame would beat the Hell out of any Team who they played. What team can stay pshysical and rotate in enough fresh guys to play 4 quaters with them? Noneeeeeeee,not even close. Now can they get beat if they dont show up ready to play,yep that could happen against any team. But it hasnt happen in their 1st 9 games.
Posted on 11/6/11 at 1:17 pm to TheSexecutioner
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So since one elite passing attack on the road only threw for 200 yards against an elite difference that is the trend? Why didn't you sign that Rodgers vs Steelers in the Super Bowl? Wouldn't you agree that is become more of the trend.
You are really really really stupid.
Posted on 11/6/11 at 1:19 pm to TheSexecutioner
They were avg 40 pts a game before this game Meauxron. All offenses look good when the other team can't play defense. Did you see how avg Oregon offense looked against LSU and Auburn last year?
Posted on 11/6/11 at 1:19 pm to TheSexecutioner
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there defense is nothing compared to ours.
Exactly my point !!!!!!
Posted on 11/6/11 at 1:23 pm to TheSexecutioner
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In fact, you are a total moron. The median winning team's score was 37. This means that the results are actually skewed LOWER than they should be. Recall that the average score was 33. Since the median is higher than that, 33 is a low indication of what the scoring trend has been.
I'm saying your statistic sucks and the validity of two team's score in past years doesn't really matter to this current argument. Defenses that have this much talent win championships. Our points total looks smaller than others because we limit possessions by using the run to set up the pass. This, in turn, allows our defense to rest, while it beats up on the other defense. It is a tried and true method of winning games.
Posted on 11/6/11 at 1:25 pm to Big EZ Tiger
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One was beatable.
Either would most likely beat the living $hit out of whoever the Big 12 champ is... Stanford is good, but they don't have a physical D. Boise St. is really good, but they don't play anyone and would likely become overwhelmed by the physical nature/athleticism of the best of the SEC.
Our offenses are actually good except when going against other powerhouse SEC teams.
And both of the pass defenses are awesome. That is all these other teams' bread and butter. Without that, they have nothing.
This is pretty good post. First one I have found in this thread. I agree with a lot of this stuff. I think Stanford potentially poses the most trouble. I think our pass defense is what gives us the advantage over these dominant looking offenses.
I just wasn't impressed with our offense yesterday. Scoring 3 points(3 were the defense getting a TO in field goal range) in 60 minutes is pretty bad regarrdless of who you play.
Posted on 11/6/11 at 1:26 pm to Jcorye1
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I'm saying your statistic sucks and the validity of two team's score in past years doesn't really matter to this current argument.
You can't win. He's a Smurf worshiper.
Posted on 11/6/11 at 1:28 pm to Jcorye1
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I'm saying your statistic sucks and the validity of two team's score in past years doesn't really matter to this current argument. Defenses that have this much talent win championships. Our points total looks smaller than others because we limit possessions by using the run to set up the pass. This, in turn, allows our defense to rest, while it beats up on the other defense. It is a tried and true method of winning games.
I've already explained that I understand we won't have to score that many because of stylistic differences. I posted those numbers because people were telling me things like
"look at history dude," or "you must not have watched a lot of football." So I took their advice, and looked at history. I came back having found nothing to validate their claims.
Posted on 11/6/11 at 1:30 pm to TN Bhoy
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I'm saying your statistic sucks and the validity of two team's score in past years doesn't really matter to this current argument.
Well, your comment about variance was incredibly stupid. Did you expect all of the scores to be exactly 33? I agree that sometimes averages are skewed by outliers, but in this case, they are skewed in my favor.
So what was the point of the variance comment?
Posted on 11/6/11 at 1:32 pm to coolmonk
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So since one elite passing attack on the road only threw for 200 yards against an elite difference that is the trend? Why didn't you sign that Rodgers vs Steelers in the Super Bowl? Wouldn't you agree that is become more of the trend.
lol resort to nfl analogies, nah, they dont have vastly different rules or anything
how about the arena league?
Posted on 11/6/11 at 1:33 pm to TheSexecutioner
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Both teams looked very beatable
Well one did get beat
Posted on 11/6/11 at 1:34 pm to TheSexecutioner
Just think...A powerful passing attack MIGHT score a few points on LSU, that is true. But just in case last night has clouded your view, our offense can put up some major points. No other team in the nation has the defense Bama has. No other team will make out offense completely ineffective. So if they can put up more than the 6 points than Bama did, they still have to outscore us, which isn't easy, especially when we burn as much clock as we do and limit the other offense's possessions.
Posted on 11/6/11 at 1:36 pm to TheSexecutioner
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TheSexecutioner
Only read your post. You sir, are a fricking idiot.
I could go on as to why, but I assume its been covered.
Posted on 11/6/11 at 1:37 pm to TheSexecutioner
both teams have destroyed everybody else all season long.. this is what happens when both teams go up against near-NFL quality defenses.. every defensive player on the field will get drafted IMO.
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