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Posted on 3/8/23 at 10:39 am to
Posted by rutiger
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Posted on 3/8/23 at 10:39 am to
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There isnt one responsible on field… it’s all spread out between coaches and split up duties. Teaching leverages, blocking assignments, etc is fine for different coaches, because that’s how it usually works, but who will encompass all that be responsible for overall scheme?


Its like you didnt even read what kelly said.
Posted by subidc
CharlestonSC
Member since Nov 2019
3311 posts
Posted on 3/8/23 at 10:40 am to
I guess we will see. Something had to change because we were really bad last year and that may be understated. All I know it was not just because we put the ball on the ground too much. It was a total system break down. Some of it may have had to do with roster numbers. Like I said I will give him the benefit of the doubt. Here is to a great year next season!
Posted by 7Tiger7
Down South
Member since Jul 2015
4018 posts
Posted on 3/8/23 at 10:42 am to
Kelly has a sole ST coach on field? Or one by name only?
Posted by therick711
South
Member since Jan 2008
26122 posts
Posted on 3/8/23 at 10:45 am to
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Kelly has a sole ST coach on field? Or one by name only?


The coordinator on the field is Jancek. No one can answer what the question implies because we quite literally haven't seen it yet.
Posted by 7Tiger7
Down South
Member since Jul 2015
4018 posts
Posted on 3/8/23 at 10:50 am to
Ah, Jancek, who has never been a ST coach… thanks
Posted by NewportTiger
Newport Beach, CA
Member since Dec 2019
502 posts
Posted on 3/8/23 at 10:50 am to
Many here saying this approach takes away accountability you'd get with one coach in charge. I say it's the opposite. If we have a few blocked PATs or FGs, Davis is on the hot seat. If KR and PR coverage sucks, House is on the hot seat, and so on. Actually centralizes accountability in a good way, IMO.
Posted by 7Tiger7
Down South
Member since Jul 2015
4018 posts
Posted on 3/8/23 at 10:53 am to
So if House has the defense rolling but his unit/part in special teams sucks, he’s on hot seat? What do you do to adjust? Kick him off ST during season? Let someone else takeover, but what if they are worse?

I guess it’s all a wait and see approach. Im just skeptical.
Posted by Circle G84
Member since Nov 2022
644 posts
Posted on 3/8/23 at 10:54 am to
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I go back to the fake field goal work under Les Miles and how incredibly effective that stuff was.


The Brad Wing taunting call against Florida still hurts my heart!
Posted by therick711
South
Member since Jan 2008
26122 posts
Posted on 3/8/23 at 10:54 am to
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Ah, Jancek, who has never been a ST coach… thanks


I always kind of laugh at this stuff, and it is pretty prevalent. What do you think a ST coordinator does? Let's take the idea to its logical conclusion, though. What if you had a ST coach that had never been a kicker, long snapper, or punter, would that be ok? What if he had been one of those, but never a gunner or covered a kickoff?

In most instances, the ST coordinator isn't the guy that is teaching your specialist how to do their job, like kicking and punting. They are responsible for implementing the coverage/blocking schemes, having the specialty ready to go on the field prior to being needed, and they are primarily responsible for scouting/self-scout during game week preparation. Jancek is qualified to coordinate the special teams. He probably isn't qualified to help a kicker or punter do those tasks, but the vast majority of ST coaches aren't either.
Posted by sportjunkie69
Member since Nov 2012
2234 posts
Posted on 3/8/23 at 10:58 am to
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Ranked 100s in special teams is more than 'putting the ball on the ground' ...nothing was sound.


We lost our dynamic punter, golden legged nfl drafted place kicker, and our regularly out of the end zone kickoff specialist.

There's critical value in using scholarships on kickers.
Posted by SoloTiger
Member since Aug 2016
10826 posts
Posted on 3/8/23 at 10:59 am to
LSU's punt return scheme sucks. I can tell you that.
Posted by geauxtigers33
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2014
13735 posts
Posted on 3/8/23 at 11:09 am to
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this pretty much means ST will probably be pretty stale and mundane


Compared to last year I am all for this.

If you are competent on offense and defense you don’t need your special teams to win games you just need them not to lose them.
Posted by PhillyTiger90
Not Phillytiger9
Member since Dec 2015
11752 posts
Posted on 3/8/23 at 11:11 am to
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Kelly said. “Or I would've fired him. That would've been easy.”


CBK def reads tRant Gameday Threads
Posted by JPLSU1981
Baton Rouge
Member since Oct 2005
28372 posts
Posted on 3/8/23 at 11:12 am to
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I mean Think of it this way: Are you worried about us having an OL, OC/TE, WR, RB , and QB coach on offense?



Good point.

I’m cool with it, i trust BK
Posted by Lark225
Member since Mar 2019
1801 posts
Posted on 3/8/23 at 11:17 am to
Once again you can't make this shite up
Posted by 7Tiger7
Down South
Member since Jul 2015
4018 posts
Posted on 3/8/23 at 11:18 am to
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Jancek is qualified to coordinate the special teams.


WHAT?!? Lol.
Posted by 7Tiger7
Down South
Member since Jul 2015
4018 posts
Posted on 3/8/23 at 11:22 am to
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I mean Think of it this way: Are you worried about us having an OL, OC/TE, WR, RB , and QB coach on offense?


I don’t think most are worried about individual coaches. It is a worry about the head guy leading them and how all have extra responsibilities other than their specific specialty. Think about what happened when we hired Jake Peetz…
This post was edited on 3/8/23 at 11:23 am
Posted by blowmeauburn
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2006
8057 posts
Posted on 3/8/23 at 11:26 am to
This sounds like an awful solution. Nobody will be held accountable.
Posted by geauxtigers33
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2014
13735 posts
Posted on 3/8/23 at 11:29 am to
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Nobody will be held accountable.


Brian Kelly will be held accountable by the fans.

I’m sure people will be held accountable in the program by Brian Kelly we just won’t necessarily know who that is.
Posted by SammyTiger
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Feb 2009
78923 posts
Posted on 3/8/23 at 11:45 am to
Yeah but calling plays on offense VS Special teams is different.
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