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Posted on 8/7/08 at 8:33 pm to Broham
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Shows me how much you people know about football.
collins had 4 games of real production in his LSU career, correct?
Posted on 8/7/08 at 8:34 pm to Broham
Well, it's hard to guage CS entirely when he's not allowed to score more than 1 td a game.
Posted on 8/7/08 at 8:36 pm to Rocket
pretty much
just like how i brought up the VT game for keiland
in LIMITED time, SHARING CARRIES he put up a similar game to cecil's amazing performances
just like how i brought up the VT game for keiland
in LIMITED time, SHARING CARRIES he put up a similar game to cecil's amazing performances
Posted on 8/7/08 at 8:43 pm to SlowFlowPro
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collins had 4 games of real production in his LSU career, correct?
not doubt Scott is a better Tiger than Collins...many, many are and will be. But I'm not sure there has ever been a player with as much raw talent at LSU as Cecil.
Posted on 8/7/08 at 8:45 pm to ForeLSU
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But I'm not sure there has ever been a player with as much raw talent at LSU as Cecil.
i think collins was great, but vastly overrated
and it appears that the legend of his abilities grows every year
i mean people said DMac wasn't as good as him. that's RIDICULOUS
Posted on 8/7/08 at 8:45 pm to ForeLSU
I don't even consider CC a Tiger. frick that dude.
Posted on 8/7/08 at 8:49 pm to Rocket
see i'm not even taking that into account
cecil is just seen as this myth more than anything, and it grows every year
cecil is just seen as this myth more than anything, and it grows every year
Posted on 8/7/08 at 8:49 pm to SlowFlowPro
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i mean people said DMac wasn't as good as him. that's RIDICULOUS
a pretty close comparison...I talked with an assistant at LSU at the time he was being recruited at a bar in New Orleans during the SEC basketball tourney, can't remember his name. He said Cecil would start over Kevin Faulk his freshman year...of course he didn't qualify. I've seen a ton of running backs, and Cecil had it all.
Posted on 8/7/08 at 8:52 pm to SlowFlowPro
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cecil is just seen as this myth more than anything, and it grows every year
what, weren't you about 2 when he played. Rohan is more in the category you are talking about.
Posted on 8/7/08 at 8:52 pm to SlowFlowPro
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i think collins was great, but vastly overrated
Not sure about that. I'm assuming you're basing the overrated tag on sample size. But take Keiland Williams for example. His sample size is less than Hester or Scott and yet to me (and I know some will disagree with me here, but that's another subject), he just looks like the better back. Sometimes you can just watch a guy and tell he's just flat out good. I think that was the case with Collins. I mean you could just watch Collins run and then watch Faulk run and tell Collins was a better runner.
It's very similiar to Bo Jackson's pro career. I mean, obviously he doesn't have the pedigree of an Emmitt Smith. But I would be willing to bet you wouldn't find many people who would say Emmitt was a better runner.
Posted on 8/7/08 at 8:52 pm to ForeLSU
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a pretty close comparison
no way
cecil wasn't nearly as explosive as DMac
DMac has the record for best rushing game in SEC history
DMac has more impressive games against good run Ds
and DMac proved it over a much larger sample
Posted on 8/7/08 at 8:55 pm to Obi-Wan Tiger
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I'm assuming you're basing the overrated tag on sample size.
i use that with people's arguments, but i base it off of so many people saying he was the best RB of all time
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But take Keiland Williams for example.
i mean take him...look at what he did against VT in limited carries. just as impressive as any of collins' games
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But I would be willing to bet you wouldn't find many people who would say Emmitt was a better runner.
i dunno this one is tough. i think bo is overrated as a RB also, but just b/c ne never showed "it"
not that i think smith is great, but lots of people are on his dick
Posted on 8/7/08 at 8:57 pm to KC Tiger
Cecil was special. Scott can be special. Cecil had outstanding vision and acceleration. Scott has good vision.
Too early to tell.
Too early to tell.
Posted on 8/7/08 at 8:59 pm to SlowFlowPro
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DMac has the record for best rushing game in SEC history
most yard != best
CC's 232 against Auburn was a top 5 rushing performance in the SEC...at least as good as DMac's record vs. the LameCocks
Posted on 8/7/08 at 9:02 pm to SlowFlowPro
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but i base it off of so many people saying he was the best RB of all time
again, best meaning raw talent and potential. He is no where near the best in terms of actual production. KW is as close to Cecil as I've seen to this point in the raw talent department, but has already surpassed him in production.
Posted on 8/7/08 at 9:03 pm to SlowFlowPro
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i mean take him...look at what he did against VT in limited carries. just as impressive as any of collins' games
That's what I'm saying...I think Williams is the best running back we have, and I'm basing that on very limited playing time. He's as talented an LSU runner as anyone I've seen since Collins. If he quit the team tomorrow, I for one would say he was one of the best we ever had, simply based on watching him, because it surely wouldn't be based on stats.
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i think bo is overrated as a RB also
See, I don't think so. Again, he was limited by injury, but when he was healthy and playing he was a horse. People forget he had impressive stats and that was splitting a lot of time with Marcus Allen.
Posted on 8/7/08 at 9:04 pm to ForeLSU
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CC's 232 against Auburn was a top 5 rushing performance in the SEC...at least as good as DMac's record vs. the LameCocks
dude DMac averaged 9.4 ypc with THIRTY FOUR carries against USC in 2007
DMac had 206 against LSU in 2007, he also had 195 @ Bama in 2007
in 2006 DMac had 182 agains LSU (8.7 ypc), 181 against UTenn, 219 @ USC, and 145 @ Auburn
*ETA: and in EVERY ONE of these games DMac shared carries!
This post was edited on 8/7/08 at 9:05 pm
Posted on 8/7/08 at 9:04 pm to ForeLSU
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again, best meaning raw talent and potential
DMac is 6-1, 215 and ran a sub 4.3, 40
Posted on 8/7/08 at 9:06 pm to KC Tiger
No question....
Scott...
He's from Saline...
Had to get up early to arrive at J'boro-Hodge and play some football...
Scott...
He's from Saline...
Had to get up early to arrive at J'boro-Hodge and play some football...
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