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re: Coach O Statement Koy Moore
Posted on 11/9/20 at 11:15 am to Bert Macklin FBI
Posted on 11/9/20 at 11:15 am to Bert Macklin FBI
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Nope cuz if the officers were in the right, Moore would have been arrested.
If you point a gun at someone, they better be doing something arrest worthy.
Wrong, if it was a felony stop on a suspect that fit the description of a violent crime and it turned out to not to be the suspect he would be let go.
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Posted on 11/9/20 at 11:20 am to Bert Macklin FBI
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Blind willfully remain blind. How many times has a cop stopped you just to see what you were up to? How many times has a cop pointed his weapon at you?
For white people the answer to both questions is more than likely zero.
Clearly you haven’t researched this very much. The answer is zero when police shoot and kill more white people than they do black people? Very interesting how you came up with that.
There are plenty of black people who have spoken out and said this has not happened to them. There’s also plenty of black people who have said it has happened to them but that they cooperated with officers and were explained the situation and that they understood why the officers did what they did.
Statistics don’t show that courts are more lenient on white people. There is no statistic that supports that. You are repeating a false narrative. Many sentences depend on previous criminal history and time hanging over someone’s head. Simple possession of something vs possession with a weapon or distribution. The argument about the sentence for crack cocaine targeting black people has been debunked because it’s the same for meth which is used by majority white people.
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Also I’m white and voted for trump so save me the SJW BS.
Never mentioned anything about it, but you do seem to get a lot of your debunked emotional arguments from them.
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Also I HATE that BLM turned from “stop police from mistreating black people” (which is a real issue IMO) to “black people shouldn’t be punished for breaking the law.”
BLM was founded on a lie. They began protesting completely justified incidents at its inception. Go and look at their stated missions. They don’t care about black lives and that has been evident from the beginning.
This post was edited on 11/9/20 at 11:28 am
Posted on 11/9/20 at 11:31 am to GoneFishing21
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The answer is zero when police shoot and kill more white people than they do black people?
This stat is like saying more than 85% of the best presidents are white. Even if you put Obama in the top 10, there other 9 will obviously be white.
Or it’s like saying the beat nba players are black. Of course they are cuz the league is overwhelmingly black.
There are SO many more whites people in America than black people so saying more white people are shot by police doesn’t prove shite.
I also said in my first post that i don’t believe the issue is with cops killing innocent black people but with black people being treated as criminals immediately by cops and sentenced to stricter punishments by the courts.
Bury your head in the sand if you’d like but it’s a real issue that doesn’t seem to have a clear answer.
Posted on 11/9/20 at 11:38 am to Gulf Coast Tiger
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Wrong, if it was a felony stop on a suspect that fit the description of a violent crime and it turned out to not to be the suspect he would be let go.
Wrong. Even if he matched the description why do the police need to pull their guns on a person that they outnumber and hasn’t shown any type of weapon?
I get that they have a job to do, some just choose to do it in ways that escalate situations rather than deescalate them.
Also taking his phone so he can’t record the interaction is against the law all on its own and shows that the cops weren’t being very cordial with him.
Posted on 11/9/20 at 11:44 am to Bert Macklin FBI
Haha so you say zero white people have guns pointed at them by police in one post. Now you acknowledge that’s a lie but try to use the failed argument of there being a higher percentage of white people in the country. Okay, guess what. Black people commit the majority of violent crimes and murders and police are more often given suspect descriptions of black people when receiving a report of a violent crime. But somehow police still kill more white people even though they are engaging more black people for violent crime related calls? So I guess police are less likely to kill a black person than white. There’s a statistic for you. Who do you think is reporting these crimes in the black communities? I’ll let you in on a secret. It’s mostly black people. So when a black person commits a crime on another black person and it’s reported to police with a suspect description given, the police will look for someone matching that description in the area. In inner cities with higher populations of black people there is potential that police could detain someone legally who was not the correct person. That does not mean there is anything wrong with what they did or that police were assuming this innocent guy was a criminal. So then you may get that person who tells the story to others who tell it to others and it changes over time or was never told honestly in the first place. It’s told as the police stopped him because he was black when really they were investigating a crime and he had a similar appearance to the suspect and was allowed to leave once that was determined. That’s not evidence of racism. Sorry, it just isn’t. Maybe these people should blame the actual criminals who are committing the crimes instead of the police who are just trying to catch the person who did it.
This post was edited on 11/9/20 at 12:12 pm
Posted on 11/9/20 at 11:48 am to GoneFishing21
No zero white people minding their own business get guns pointed at them. Not the case for blacks.
Do all the mental gymnastics you want, it doesn’t change the fact that there is an issue between cops and the black community.
The issue goes both ways which makes it difficult to
Fix.
Do all the mental gymnastics you want, it doesn’t change the fact that there is an issue between cops and the black community.
The issue goes both ways which makes it difficult to
Fix.
Posted on 11/9/20 at 11:50 am to Bert Macklin FBI
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Wrong. Even if he matched the description why do the police need to pull their guns on a person that they outnumber and hasn’t shown any type of weapon?
I know this isn’t to me but are you serious? Surely you have more awareness than that. Police are killed every year by people who have not yet displayed the weapon.
Drawing a gun on a potentially armed suspect is a form of de-escalation. If you’re so afraid of police pointing a gun at you then why would anyone escalate their behavior and give police a reason to fear for their lives?
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Also taking his phone so he can’t record the interaction is against the law all on its own and shows that the cops weren’t being very cordial with him.
No it’s not. They were clearly attempting to detain if what he is saying is what happened. So they can remove his phone from his hands. He wasn’t standing off somewhere filming as a bystander
Posted on 11/9/20 at 11:53 am to Bert Macklin FBI
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o zero white people minding their own business get guns pointed at them. Not the case for blacks.
Dude that simply isn’t true. I respect the fact that you care about racism. We all do. But you’re just repeating a lot of stuff and claiming it as fact when you have no knowledge or evidence whatsoever. Again, if a white person matches the description or a potentially armed and dangerous suspect then the same thing will happen to a whites person whether they are minding their business or not. It’s not gymnastics. It’s reality. I get that you don’t want to seem unsympathetic to the cause and I respect that, but you’re not as educated on the issue as you believe you are.
Posted on 11/9/20 at 11:57 am to GoneFishing21
The fact remains that it is infinitely more likely to be stopped by cops as a black person than as a white person.
Idk how else to get that point across. The issues is that the cops and the black community are in a Mexican stand off and no one is dropping their weapons.
When push comes to shove, I back the boys in blue cuz I know the vast majority of their workforce keeps us safe and upholds the law. But to act like there isn’t an issue is willful ignorance.
Idk how else to get that point across. The issues is that the cops and the black community are in a Mexican stand off and no one is dropping their weapons.
When push comes to shove, I back the boys in blue cuz I know the vast majority of their workforce keeps us safe and upholds the law. But to act like there isn’t an issue is willful ignorance.
Posted on 11/9/20 at 12:01 pm to Bert Macklin FBI
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The fact remains that it is infinitely more likely to be stopped by cops as a black person than as a white person.
I don’t know what to tell you. I guess you should tell black people to stop reporting crime on other black people. Black people commit the majority of violent crimes and murder on this country. That’s not an indictment in all black people. That’s just a statistical reality.
This post was edited on 11/9/20 at 12:05 pm
Posted on 11/9/20 at 12:08 pm to GoneFishing21
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guess you should tell black people to stop reporting crime on other black people.
That’s part of the issue. They don’t report crimes and don’t cooperate as witnesses cuz they fear the gang bangers retaliation if they do cooperate.
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Black people commit the majority of violent crimes and murder on this country.
This is true and is at the root of the issue.
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That’s not an indictment in all black people. That’s just a statistical reality.
This statistical reality is being treated as an indictment on all black people cuz they are treated as if they are all murderers.
Posted on 11/9/20 at 12:09 pm to Bert Macklin FBI
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The fact remains that it is infinitely more likely to be stopped by cops as a black person than as a white person.
I believe this to be true.
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The issues is that the cops and the black community are in a Mexican stand off and no one is dropping their weapons.
I also believe this to be true.
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When push comes to shove, I back the boys in blue cuz I know the vast majority of their workforce keeps us safe and upholds the law. But to act like there isn’t an issue is willful ignorance.
I agree with this also, the problem is when the "Good" cops stand around and in silence, "knowing" that his fellow officer has violated someone rights. That's the problem. It's all about "Protecting the Shield" and that is ingrained in Law Enforcement Agencies across America.
Here in Louisiana, there is the Head of the Louisiana State Police Office that stepped down a week ago because of the racist acts of his officers in which he knew occurred. One white State Police officer pulled over a Black Male, words were exchanged, the State Police officer then beat the black male, a responding officer arrived on the scene and had his body cam on that recorded the officer saying "I beat the ever loving frick out of his arse". Yet, the one officer reported that the bruises on his face were from a motor vehicle accident. That's the damn problem.
This post was edited on 11/9/20 at 12:18 pm
Posted on 11/9/20 at 12:09 pm to viv1d
Guesses of who wrote this for him?
Posted on 11/9/20 at 12:09 pm to Bert Macklin FBI
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No zero white people minding their own business get guns pointed at them. Not the case for blacks. Do all the mental gymnastics you want, it doesn’t change the fact that there is an issue between cops and the black community.
There’s a reason this is the case. I’m willing to admit black people are unjustly profiled. But I also understand the numbers and anecdotes behind the profiling. There are crime issues in the community that need to be dealt with.
Posted on 11/9/20 at 12:15 pm to Bert Macklin FBI
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This statistical reality is being treated as an indictment on all black people cuz they are treated as if they are all murderers.
No, they aren’t.
Posted on 11/9/20 at 12:16 pm to The Pirate King
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I’m willing to admit black people are unjustly profiled. But I also understand the numbers and anecdotes behind the profiling. There are crime issues in the community that need to be dealt with.
BINGO! It an issue and I see why both sides feel the way they do. I also see that the easiest fix is for innocent blacks people to turn on the criminals and turn them in or at least cooperate with cops on investigations. But that’s a hard ask cuz their lives would be at risk from the alleged criminals.
Idk what the fix is. Maybe “self policing” which is that only have officers patrol areas where they are from? It’s easier to be uncooperative with a random white cop than with Johnny who grew up down the street. It’s also Easier for Johnny to have more patients with people he is familiar with than a random cop assigned to the hood.
That solution is obviously a fairy tale cuz it would open up the ability for a lot of corruption with cops teaming up with gangs but idk what else to suggest.
Posted on 11/9/20 at 12:22 pm to TeamLSU
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Here in Louisiana, there is the Head of the Louisiana State Police Office that stepped down a week ago because of the racist acts of his officers in which he knew occurred.
I had not heard about the incident. Did they say what was racist about it?
Posted on 11/9/20 at 12:25 pm to Bert Macklin FBI
Bert Macklin FBI
You can't win. You're speaking to the clan, K
You can't win. You're speaking to the clan, K
Posted on 11/9/20 at 12:28 pm to Surv1vor1st
3 BRPD officers now placed on administrative leave
Posted on 11/9/20 at 12:31 pm to Surv1vor1st
What exactly is the clan? Sorry that facts get in the way of your feelings. There’s nothing wrong with being emotional, but it can cause us to miss reality at times.
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