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re: Comparison of coaching style Miles vs Saban (not a bash)
Posted on 10/5/10 at 11:36 am to dante
Posted on 10/5/10 at 11:36 am to dante
If this isn't a bash, why bring it up? Why not compare the coaching styles with say Mack Brown?
You intended to stir up shite. Now take your
Saban love and go away.
You intended to stir up shite. Now take your
Saban love and go away.
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Posted on 10/5/10 at 11:40 am to OBUDan
Im not saying Saban is perfect...only comparing their style and methods. One coach takes a detailed methodical approach while the other takes a more emotional approach.
Posted on 10/5/10 at 11:55 am to OBUDan
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Why is Saban infallible to everyone?
Saban is not infallible. CBS ran the LSU vs Tennessee then the Alabama vs Florida game sequentially last night. I watched both of them. There was a noticeable difference.
Fans know Saban is not coming back, but face it, he is the standard LSU coaches will be judged by until we start beating Alabama occasionally.
Posted on 10/5/10 at 11:56 am to Uncommon Cents
Miles's CEO-"Emotional-Father-Figure" coaching style works great--IF he has stud coordinators.
He's got a DC that fits the bill.
Sometimes I think that Alleva should be hands-on here and recognize Miles's strength (recruiting) and make sure he has stud coordinators.
In other words, do like Mr. Wilbanks, the owner of the Cougars in the ESPN show "Playmakers" and tell Miles: "Fire your offensive coordinator--or I'll fire him for you."
But then, I think, that is not why an AD hires a coach and pays him 4 million a year.
Miles has to recognize about HIMSELF that he needs stud coordinators.
He recognized it one year too late with Crowton.
Crowton worked out fine at one time, but he's not working out now.
Miles's CEO style is great. I prefer it to Saban the Autocrat--IF Miles recognizes he needs stud coordinators and coaches.
If not--then Miles will have a hard-time succeeding long-term in the very rarefied air of Top 5-10 BCS powers.
He's got a DC that fits the bill.
Sometimes I think that Alleva should be hands-on here and recognize Miles's strength (recruiting) and make sure he has stud coordinators.
In other words, do like Mr. Wilbanks, the owner of the Cougars in the ESPN show "Playmakers" and tell Miles: "Fire your offensive coordinator--or I'll fire him for you."
But then, I think, that is not why an AD hires a coach and pays him 4 million a year.
Miles has to recognize about HIMSELF that he needs stud coordinators.
He recognized it one year too late with Crowton.
Crowton worked out fine at one time, but he's not working out now.
Miles's CEO style is great. I prefer it to Saban the Autocrat--IF Miles recognizes he needs stud coordinators and coaches.
If not--then Miles will have a hard-time succeeding long-term in the very rarefied air of Top 5-10 BCS powers.
Posted on 10/5/10 at 11:59 am to dante
Saban was the Les Miles of NFL!
PRO FOOTBALL: N.F.L. ROUNDUP; He Who Hesitates Is Lost, Miami's Coach Acknowledges
. .Daunte Culpepper's two fourth-quarter interceptions were not so great, but the worst throw by the Miami Dolphins in their 28-17 loss to the Pittsburgh Steelers on Thursday night might have been made by their coach, Nick Saban.
His hesitant soft toss of the red flag when he was attempting to challenge the host Steelers' go-ahead touchdown in the fourth quarter was so odd that even the N.F.L.'s director for officiating, Mike Pereira, called the situation surreal.
After the game, Saban faulted the officials for not seeing the red flag. But yesterday, Saban took the blame for not getting their attention.
PRO FOOTBALL: N.F.L. ROUNDUP; He Who Hesitates Is Lost, Miami's Coach Acknowledges
. .Daunte Culpepper's two fourth-quarter interceptions were not so great, but the worst throw by the Miami Dolphins in their 28-17 loss to the Pittsburgh Steelers on Thursday night might have been made by their coach, Nick Saban.
His hesitant soft toss of the red flag when he was attempting to challenge the host Steelers' go-ahead touchdown in the fourth quarter was so odd that even the N.F.L.'s director for officiating, Mike Pereira, called the situation surreal.
After the game, Saban faulted the officials for not seeing the red flag. But yesterday, Saban took the blame for not getting their attention.
Posted on 10/5/10 at 12:14 pm to TLG
Let's say Jarrett Lee throws off his back foot, across his body, a pass up for grabs. And an LSU WR just happens to be in the right place and catch it. Saban would blow a gasket for making such an ill advised throw, Miles would be cheering about the outcome.
That is the difference between the two.
That is the difference between the two.
Posted on 10/5/10 at 12:21 pm to BMoney
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Miles is NOT HAPPY with the way we won. Sure, he's glad we get the W, but he knows there are things to be corrected so we don't have to win ugly.
This shite has been going on for three years now. If he's not happy with it, he's had plenty of chances to fix it. Obviously, he's either happy with what he's got, or too stupid to fix it.
Posted on 10/5/10 at 12:24 pm to dante
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Saban will never be considered a “players coach”
I'm not sure I agree with this. Ask Randall Gay or Bradie James or any of the other number of young men that he dedicated significant personal mentoring to both at LSU and after they had gone to the pros - not to mention helping a lot of players into appropriate spots in the pros when they might have otherwise been overlooked.
Posted on 10/5/10 at 12:24 pm to OBUDan
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Why is Saban infallible to everyone?
He's not infallible. He's just so much better than Miles that he LOOKS infallible by comparison.
Just like Miles is probably not an idiot in the technical sense, but he is just so much worse than other coaches that he LOOKS like an idiot by comparison.
This post was edited on 10/5/10 at 12:26 pm
Posted on 10/5/10 at 12:26 pm to Nuts4LSU
This is the easiest summation of their differences:
Miles: 'the Mad Hatter', shoots from the hip/plays from the gut
Saban: focused almost EXCLUSIVELY on the process - i.e. the inputs and not the outputs. He understands at his core that if you have the correct process, then over time, the luck will even out and your process will beat an inferior process (or in Miles' case, it will beat the total lack of a process)
Miles: 'the Mad Hatter', shoots from the hip/plays from the gut
Saban: focused almost EXCLUSIVELY on the process - i.e. the inputs and not the outputs. He understands at his core that if you have the correct process, then over time, the luck will even out and your process will beat an inferior process (or in Miles' case, it will beat the total lack of a process)
Posted on 10/5/10 at 12:34 pm to Uncommon Cents
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So are a lot of teams. Nobody wins forever you jackass.
But we are wining. Why can't you enjoy that? What is so bad in your life that you can't enjoy a 5-0 start?
Squeaking out victories against vastly undermanned teams is not something I enjoy.
Posted on 10/5/10 at 12:37 pm to BrickTamland
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Squeaking out victories against vastly undermanned teams is not something I enjoy.
If you would have told me in August we would be 5-0 with the best defense in the SEC, I would have been thrilled. But Miles has managed to make this a painful 5-0. Patrick Peterson and a crazy arse penalty against Tennessee are the only reasons we aren't 2-3.
This post was edited on 10/5/10 at 12:38 pm
Posted on 10/5/10 at 4:57 pm to Uncommon Cents
I compared his style to Saban because he was LSU's last coach. I don't follow Texas, but since you asked I would say Mack Brown, like Miles, is only as good as his staff but Brown is a better speaker.
Posted on 10/5/10 at 5:02 pm to dante
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One other quick comparison, Saban always preached the next game is the most important. The reason being he did not want his players looking past an opponent nor did he want them to put more emphasis on any one game. While Miles has never come out and said any one game was more important than another. I get the impression he and the players put a lot more emphasis and emotion into certain games. When that happens and the team loses, it makes it extremely difficult to move forward
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Are you saying Saban's take is better here because it didn't work twice for him-Miles hasn't lost to a team that way...
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One other quick comparison, Saban always preached the next game is the most important. The reason being he did not want his players looking past an opponent nor did he want them to put more emphasis on any one game. While Miles has never come out and said any one game was more important than another. I get the impression he and the players put a lot more emphasis and emotion into certain games. When that happens and the team loses, it makes it extremely difficult to move forward
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Are you saying Saban's take is better here because it didn't work twice for him-Miles hasn't lost to a team that way...
Posted on 10/5/10 at 5:05 pm to dante
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process guy
The only way to be.
Posted on 10/5/10 at 5:15 pm to jimbeaux82
Saban teams progress as the season gets longer.
Miles teams, even 2007, get worse the further you get into the season.
Miles teams, even 2007, get worse the further you get into the season.
Posted on 10/5/10 at 5:16 pm to StarkvilleTigerFan
What are you talking about.....last year Bama was the big emotional game and we lost 3 of the last 5 and barely beat LA Tech. The year before we lost 2 of 4 to finish the season. If you put all your eggs in one game it makes tough to finish the season strong.
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