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re: Defensive Possessions per Game vs. Yards/Game
Posted on 9/24/19 at 2:46 pm to Not Cooper
Posted on 9/24/19 at 2:46 pm to Not Cooper
Which one of is is actually backtracking? 
The pic says "he mad" btw.
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lol. frick off prick.
The pic says "he mad" btw.
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Posted on 9/24/19 at 2:47 pm to Not Cooper
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You're arguing just to argue dude. It's ok to admit my argument had some validity. We went three pages into the weeds before someone else pointed out that it may have been a smartass comment.
pot meet kettle. Seriously though you've been arguing with a guy on whether he was changing his argument or if it was a sarcastic comment for 2 pages. Does your argument have some validity? Sure it does but every team every season plays crap teams that helps skew their numbers. I can count 4 on the 2011 schedule alone (not at all saying this defense is comparable to the 2011 defense). Theres also only been 1 game that we have had all of our starters playing (and they didnt even play the full game).
The defense does need to tighten up and I believe they will.
Posted on 9/24/19 at 2:47 pm to LNCHBOX
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The pic says "he mad" btw.
I'm actually laughing at your persistence. Hence the "lol"
Posted on 9/24/19 at 2:47 pm to Topwater Trout
quote:#possessions =/= #plays
I saw a stat that we are basically facing the same amount of plays as we have over the last 5 or 6 years.
ETA O said this morning that we're averaging I believe 68 on defense this year compared to 62 last year. Those numbers may be off, but not by much. So definitely more, but relatively close number of plays.
This post was edited on 9/24/19 at 2:53 pm
Posted on 9/24/19 at 2:52 pm to tiger25
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Seriously though you've been arguing with a guy on whether he was changing his argument or if it was a sarcastic comment for 2 pages.
I considered giving up several times, but I don't feel like working and it's making my afternoon go by quicker so here we are.
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The defense does need to tighten up and I believe they will.
I believe they will also. I'm on record as saying I trust aranda to straighten it out.
This post was edited on 9/24/19 at 2:52 pm
Posted on 9/24/19 at 2:52 pm to RB10
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RB10
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Not Cooper
YOU frickheads are missing the point.
The point of my thread and this thread is to COMPARE DEFENSIVE PERFORMANCES ACROSS SEASONS
If you say "take out GASO because it's skewing numbers", then you MUST take out all the cupcakes from all the seasons that you are comparing to. You frickheads aren't doing this. You are wanting to take out GASO because it's a cupcake and then compare that to other seasons with the cupcakes included. Do you honestly think we haven't played teams like GASO in the past? Either you are desperate to show this year's defense is doing so badly, or you're too fricking stupid to have an intellectual conversation about it.
This post was edited on 9/24/19 at 2:53 pm
Posted on 9/24/19 at 2:53 pm to TchPowDog
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YOU frickheads are missing the point.
The point of my thread and this thread is to COMPARE DEFENSIVE PERFORMANCES ACROSS SEASONS
If you say "take out GASO because it's skewing numbers", then you MUST take out all the cupcakes from all the seasons that you are comparing to. You frickheads aren't doing this. You are wanting to take out GASO because it's a cupcake and then compare that to other seasons with the cupcakes included. Do you honestly think we haven't played teams like GASO in the past? Either you are desperate to show this year's defense is doing so badly, or you're too fricking stupid to have an intellectual conversation about it.
Posted on 9/24/19 at 2:54 pm to TchPowDog
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COMPARE DEFENSIVE PERFORMANCES ACROSS SEASONS
We're 4 games in, and 1 conference game in.
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or you're too fricking stupid to have an intellectual conversation about it.
I don't think that's it but ok
ETA: I do appreciate you compiling the numbers of all the previous seasons. This thread got sidetracked pretty bad by LNCHBOX and I but I like seeing numbers like that which is why I countered with my own.
ETA 2: I thought you were OP. I was mistaken. I retract my halfway nice statement to you.
This post was edited on 9/24/19 at 2:58 pm
Posted on 9/24/19 at 2:56 pm to LNCHBOX
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ETA O said this morning that we're averaging I believe 68 on defense this year compared to 62 last year. Those numbers may be off, but not by much. So definitely more, but relatively close number of plays.
I just don't think we are playing we yet...could just be injuries
Posted on 9/24/19 at 2:56 pm to Not Cooper
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Remove the Ga So game and we are giving up 394 YPG on 5.33 yards per play. That includes NW St.
Texas got 48 yards/possession. We have two cupcakes skewing our stats and the numbers still don't look good.
It's not like we didnt play any cupcakes the previous years. You cant just take games out.
Posted on 9/24/19 at 2:57 pm to Not Cooper
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We're 4 games in, and 1 conference game in.
I would be interested to see what the numbers are in past years for the first 4 games of the season and compare those. Too much work for me though
Posted on 9/24/19 at 2:58 pm to TchPowDog
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YOU frickheads are missing the point.
The point of my thread and this thread is to COMPARE DEFENSIVE PERFORMANCES ACROSS SEASONS
No, we get the point of the thread just fine. The problem is you’re clearly not sharp enough to realize that GSU’s 50 plays skew the numbers.
ETA: I haven’t once said to take games out. I have literally said you shouldn’t do that. I have said be smart enough to realize how badly one game can skew the numbers when you’re 4 games in. You clearly can’t wrap your head around that.
This post was edited on 9/24/19 at 3:01 pm
Posted on 9/24/19 at 2:59 pm to Not Cooper
You are saying "Take out GASO because it's skewing the numbers and compare that to last year" - why? Why not also take out Southeastern and Rice from last year???????
You think this is smart?
Our dominant performance against GASO counts, no matter how much you don't like it.
You think this is smart?
Our dominant performance against GASO counts, no matter how much you don't like it.
Posted on 9/24/19 at 3:01 pm to lsupride87
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I mean their offensive suckiness Auburn, Florida, and A&M, which make up 3 out of 4 of our toughest opponents suck on offense
GA Southern: 251 ypg
Auburn: 424 ypg
Florida: 432 ypg
A&M: 447 ypg
One of these is not like the others.
Posted on 9/24/19 at 3:01 pm to RB10
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The problem is you’re clearly not sharp enough to realize that GSU’s 50 plays skew the numbers.
Do you think there aren't outliers in a full season's worth of games either?
We should probably go ahead take out the 3 games that we held opponents to 250 yards or less from last year since they are outliers.
And why do the outliers only go in one direction?
Posted on 9/24/19 at 3:03 pm to LNCHBOX
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Do you think there aren't outliers in a full season's worth of games either?
Not nearly as much. We’re talking about 4 games here.
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We should probably go ahead take out the 3 games that we held opponents to 250 yards or less from last year since they are outliers.
And why do the outliers only go in one direction?
I’ve literally answered this question already. From you. In this thread.
You really need to stop looking to argue.
ETA: I’ve said multiple times since the UT game that it’s skewing the numbers and makes the defense look worse than it is. Just the the GSU game skews the numbers and makes everything look better than it is.
This post was edited on 9/24/19 at 3:05 pm
Posted on 9/24/19 at 3:04 pm to RB10
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Not nearly as much. We’re talking about 4 games here.
That's 25%, the 3 I gave you account for 23% of last year's game.
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You really need to stop looking to argue.
You need to show some consistency. Why can you remove 25% but I can't remove 23%?
Posted on 9/24/19 at 3:05 pm to LNCHBOX
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You need to show some consistency. Why can you remove 25% but I can't remove 23%?
Link the post where I’ve said to remove the game. I’ll wait.
Here’s a hint: when you furiously search my posts to find it, you’ll see multiple posts of me saying it shouldn’t be removed.
Like I said, you seriously need to calm down and stop looking just to argue with people.
This post was edited on 9/24/19 at 3:07 pm
Posted on 9/24/19 at 3:06 pm to TchPowDog
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Our dominant performance against GASO counts, no matter how much you don't like it.
I never said it didn't. All I wanted was to show that it was an outlier. We were not nearly as dominant in our 3 other games.
Posted on 9/24/19 at 3:06 pm to Not Cooper
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We were not nearly as dominant in our 3 other games.
And we weren't nearly as dominated as we were by UT either. Isn't this so much fun?
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