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re: Ed Orgeron will be LSU’s head coach for a minumum of 3 years

Posted on 1/30/18 at 4:31 pm to
Posted by UpToPar
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2008
22937 posts
Posted on 1/30/18 at 4:31 pm to
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so you think bringing a new coach would automatically mean an undefeated season ... really ?


Nobody thinks this. Nice strawman though!
Posted by rbdallas
Dallas, TX
Member since Nov 2007
10346 posts
Posted on 1/30/18 at 4:32 pm to
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Well then please tell us where does the money come from? And can you confirm that the money is happy with the results and plan of Ed Orgeron?


enjoy your posts Mr. 2015, you have a lot to learn
Posted by WaWaWeeWa
Member since Oct 2015
15714 posts
Posted on 1/30/18 at 4:33 pm to
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BTW, Miles was not fired for his record, but for his arrogance, stubbornness and style of offense.


Good, now Orgeron can be fired for his meddling, infighting, and lack of general football knowledge
This post was edited on 1/30/18 at 4:36 pm
Posted by Rickdaddy4188
Murfreesboro,TN
Member since Aug 2011
48099 posts
Posted on 1/30/18 at 4:35 pm to
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so you think bringing a new coach would automatically mean an undefeated season ... really ? 


yeah because there is no difference between undefeated and losing 4 games during the easiest schedule in 2 decades.

also, if you're implying that there is a rebuild then you're absolutely arguing that we should fire O immediately. There isn't a single shred of proof that O can BUILD a program. in fact there is evidence that O may be the worst possible candidate for a rebuild. the only thing O has ever he any sort of success was when he didn't have to hire the staff, didn't have to choose schemes, and didn't have to sell recruits on joining HIS program.
Posted by dgnx6
Member since Feb 2006
87908 posts
Posted on 1/30/18 at 4:36 pm to
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you sir are an idiot..
so you would have fired a first year coach with the 9-4 record .. and then expect to bring in other coaches ???



He should have been fired a long with Miles. Needed a fresh start.
Posted by AtlantaLSUfan
Baton Rouge
Member since Mar 2009
26942 posts
Posted on 1/30/18 at 4:36 pm to
Rooting for you Ed. Adapt and learn.
Posted by Rickdaddy4188
Murfreesboro,TN
Member since Aug 2011
48099 posts
Posted on 1/30/18 at 4:37 pm to
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I'm not necessarily saying you've said this, but a lot of people are saying that O deserves credit for having a winning season as Interim Coach. So, which is it? First year or not? It can't be both ways.


that's their way.



they tout how the offense looked in 2016 when we were playing triple digit run defenses but when you mention bama and Florida their response is," he had a TE coach running his offense in the 4th game".

This post was edited on 1/30/18 at 4:38 pm
Posted by TigerLunatik
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Jan 2005
106478 posts
Posted on 1/30/18 at 4:39 pm to
I hear ya. Not a ringing endorsement for Ensminger. Hope he remembers how to construct and teach his own offense so we can have better results against those types of defenses.
Posted by dgnx6
Member since Feb 2006
87908 posts
Posted on 1/30/18 at 4:41 pm to
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Please explain what a "pretty" 7-5 season looks like. Thanks.


Miles went 13-1 and people think it's the worst season ever.

Ed Orgeron cant win more than 9 games, well at least it was pretty.

frick Ed Orgeron, there I said it. He and Joe has nuetered this program.

Posted by TigerLunatik
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Jan 2005
106478 posts
Posted on 1/30/18 at 4:43 pm to
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Miles went 13-1 and people think it's the worst season ever. 


I'm assuming this has to be a bit of hyperbole.

Who the hell thinks this? I wanted Miles fired in his first year, but recognize that the '11 regular season is possibly the best in NCAA history when going by SOS.
This post was edited on 1/30/18 at 4:47 pm
Posted by timlan2057
In the Shadow of Tiger Stadium
Member since Sep 2005
20150 posts
Posted on 1/30/18 at 4:46 pm to
Yep. He just completed his second season so 2018 will be his last.
Posted by Catman88
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Dec 2004
49125 posts
Posted on 1/30/18 at 4:59 pm to
What are we going to do when we are 6-6 and most of that 2019 class signs with Alabama this December? Why do you let him coach the 2019 season?
This post was edited on 1/30/18 at 4:59 pm
Posted by Rickdaddy4188
Murfreesboro,TN
Member since Aug 2011
48099 posts
Posted on 1/30/18 at 5:00 pm to
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Given that coaches are being fired regularly during the season now, I don't know if that will save him...especially if the kids naturally are February deciders. 

If LSU is underperforming, a strong move in November could easily be viewed as the best path to landing a strong 2019 class.





you're a good poster.
forgive me for ever being an obnoxious a-hole towards you
Posted by Rickdaddy4188
Murfreesboro,TN
Member since Aug 2011
48099 posts
Posted on 1/30/18 at 5:04 pm to
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 a "pretty" 7-5 will season not get him fired






THIS DOES NOT EXIST AT LSU AND YOU SHOULD BE ASHAMED FOR INSINUATING IT DOES
Posted by dukke v
PLUTO
Member since Jul 2006
216353 posts
Posted on 1/30/18 at 5:05 pm to
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they tout how the offense looked in 2016 when we were playing triple digit run defenses but when you mention bama and Florida their response is," he had a TE coach running his offense in the 4th game".


Who has EVER said this???????


I know you are not An O fan but you are just trying to stir the pot with this post... ZERO FACTS..... ZERO...........
Posted by ranger350
CutOff
Member since Jul 2011
857 posts
Posted on 1/30/18 at 5:07 pm to
I think that he did better than that this year so what's your point !
Posted by dukke v
PLUTO
Member since Jul 2006
216353 posts
Posted on 1/30/18 at 5:11 pm to
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and losing 4 games during the easiest schedule in 2 decades.


Your schedule aregument is to old now... No matter what his record ended up being you would have brought what the SOS ENDED up being....

Sure the schedule ended up shitty.. That is NOT O's fault.... The schedule ended up NOT as good as everyone thinks AFTER the 2011 season.... It was much tougher than last year but it still applies the same way...

As I have said on A number of occasions you will use ANYTHING you can tobash O because you have went on and on about how crappy the hire was and just want to be able to say you were right... EVEN if it hurts LSU.............
Posted by Catman88
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Dec 2004
49125 posts
Posted on 1/30/18 at 5:15 pm to
When you lose to every team but 1 with a pulse on that schedule and ruin that win with a loss to a team that doesnt belong on the same field with you SOS doesnt matter.
Posted by Rickdaddy4188
Murfreesboro,TN
Member since Aug 2011
48099 posts
Posted on 1/30/18 at 5:16 pm to
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BTW, Miles was not fired for his record, but for his arrogance, stubbornness and style of offense.



people that say this are ignorant.
if lsu wins every game with 50 yards of offense miles is still here.

if nothing offensively changes about wisky and auburn but we win both of those games,no way is miles fired.

people that say Miles wasn't fired because of wins and losses are only saying this to try and justify being ok with O having 4 losses when they bitched about Miles having 3 losses.
This post was edited on 1/30/18 at 5:17 pm
Posted by nitwit
Member since Oct 2007
13091 posts
Posted on 1/30/18 at 5:18 pm to
There is no assurance that the 2019 class will buy into Da Coach O sufficiently to save his tookus . There is a huge load of La. talent for the taking by somebody...
Last year, O was unable to deliver on some big recruits we needed: Etienne, Akers, Mathis and Wilson.
This year we will finish About 12th in recruiting, and we could drop if we miss on Surtain.
Kids, parents and their coaches are smart.
They may question the HC here just like most LSU fans do...
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