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re: Elliot Porter
Posted on 8/4/10 at 5:39 pm to SlowFlowPro
Posted on 8/4/10 at 5:39 pm to SlowFlowPro
quote:You can type this a 1,000 times. It won't change anything. A greyshirt is a scholarship, period. He will get no less benefit than any other scholarship player. To suggest it's been pulled is simply lying.
now LSU is fricking the kid out of a scholarship a month before the season starts
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Posted on 8/4/10 at 5:40 pm to SlowFlowPro
quote:
you do realize if they greyshirt, they take away from our 25 in 2011, right?
Of course, and I could not care less. We have already offered guys I would not have for 11, but that's not my call.
Posted on 8/4/10 at 5:40 pm to AlxTgr
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You can type this a 1,000 times. It won't change anything
it's 100% true
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A greyshirt is a scholarship, period.
no it's not
there is no contractual obligation with a greyshirt
there are no BENEFITS (which were promised, mind you) with a greyshirt
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He will get no less benefit than any other scholarship player.
for the fall semester, will he have
1. his tuition paid?
2. his room paid?
3. his books paid?
4. a meal plan?
5. full access to the training/coaching staff?
if any of these is "no," then he does not have the same benefits of EVERY scholarship player
This post was edited on 8/4/10 at 5:42 pm
Posted on 8/4/10 at 5:43 pm to SlowFlowPro
You're doing a pretty good job for haveing the crap side of the deal. You're still losing. No points made. "For the fall semester.." Ha! It is to laugh. 
This post was edited on 8/4/10 at 5:44 pm
Posted on 8/4/10 at 5:44 pm to AlxTgr
quote:
. A greyshirt is a scholarship, period
No it's not. Simply not true.
Posted on 8/4/10 at 5:45 pm to AlxTgr
quote:
You're still losing. No points made
i provided teh benefits of the scholarship porter was promised for 2009-2010 that LSU has taken away from him
Posted on 8/4/10 at 5:45 pm to tigerguy121
quote:
No it's not. Simply not true.
how is paying your own way to LSU and paying for all of your accommodations without any guarantee of anything in the future a scholarship?
Posted on 8/4/10 at 5:46 pm to tigerguy121
quote:Yes, it really is. Can you point out how it's not without slofroplo's "For the Fall semester.." qualifyer?
No it's not. Simply not true.
Posted on 8/4/10 at 5:47 pm to AlxTgr
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Can you point out how it's not without slofroplo's "For the Fall semester.." qualifyer?
the fall semester is the fricking football season he is to participate in as well as over half of his 1-year scholarship
Posted on 8/4/10 at 5:47 pm to SlowFlowPro
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how is paying your own way to LSU and paying for all of your accommodations without any guarantee of anything in the future a scholarship?
1. He doesn't have to attend classes.
2. There is the same guarantee there always was. It just starts in January.
Posted on 8/4/10 at 5:49 pm to SlowFlowPro
quote:
the fall semester is the fricking football season he is to participate in as well as over half of his 1-year scholarship
He was not going to participate. He still gets 5 to play 4. In fact, doesn't he end up with an semester extra(school) because of it?
Posted on 8/4/10 at 5:49 pm to AlxTgr
quote:
1. He doesn't have to attend classes.
to be a greyshirt, he will have to attend classes. name me 1 greyshirt who just skipped school
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There is the same guarantee there always was. It just starts in January.
no accepting a formal offer of a scholarship for 2010-2011 and binding himself to LSU by signing a LOI is a little more guarantee than being promised that he may have a scholarship in 2011-2012
Posted on 8/4/10 at 5:49 pm to AlxTgr
quote:
There is the same guarantee there always was. It just starts in January.
HILARIOUS.
Love calling it a guarantee. How was it a guarantee since the previous guarantee was for August?
Posted on 8/4/10 at 5:50 pm to AlxTgr
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He was not going to participate
he was to be coached and trained
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He was not going to participate.
but he doesn't get to participate in the 2010-2011 season like he was promised, which was why he signed with LSU
quote:
In fact, doesn't he end up with an semester extra(school) because of it?
this has no relevance to anything
any qualified person can attend LSU if they pay their own way indefinitely
Posted on 8/4/10 at 5:50 pm to SlowFlowPro
quote:
to be a greyshirt, he will have to attend classes. name me 1 greyshirt who just skipped school
No, that's simply not true.
quote:
no accepting a formal offer of a scholarship for 2010-2011 and binding himself to LSU by signing a LOI is a little more guarantee than being promised that he may have a scholarship in 2011-2012
Sorry, but I can't read that. His free ride is there.
Posted on 8/4/10 at 5:50 pm to tigerguy121
quote:
since the previous guarantee was for August?
a guarantee/promise that was in writing signed by both fricking parties
Posted on 8/4/10 at 5:51 pm to SlowFlowPro
You guys are arguing semantics. Sounds like benefits are taken away for this semester and added on to the end. Is this correct?
If so, when you consider it overall, it might be a small loss if you take into consideration the time value of money. ie: a $ today is worth more than a $ will be 4 years from now. Not sure about the value of an LSU education over that period of time.
If so, when you consider it overall, it might be a small loss if you take into consideration the time value of money. ie: a $ today is worth more than a $ will be 4 years from now. Not sure about the value of an LSU education over that period of time.
Posted on 8/4/10 at 5:52 pm to AlxTgr
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No, that's simply not true.
name me 1 greyshirt who just skipped the semester
it's a part of the obligation. "you pay your way to school for the fall. stay around the team. and we will give you a scholarship in the spring." that is how greyshirts work
no coach would ever just cut a kid loose and pray he stays out of trouble and doesn't get fat for an entire semester
that's why i asked you to name me one kid who didn't enroll and just skipped the fall semester
i don't even know if LSU would allow you to just randomly start in the spring
quote:
His free ride is there.
for the 2010-2011 season?
Posted on 8/4/10 at 5:53 pm to Methuselah
quote:
Sounds like benefits are taken away for this semester and added on to the end.
no benefits were added
quote:
it might be a small loss if you take into consideration the time value of money. ie: a $ today is worth more than a $ will be 4 years from now.
in terms of money there are too many variables
he may come out ahead in the end when LSU finally gets a real coach in there, esp one who can hire a good OL coach
Posted on 8/4/10 at 5:55 pm to SlowFlowPro
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name me 1 greyshirt who just skipped the semester
It doesn't matter. It's not part of any NCAA or LSU or SEC rule.
quote:
for the 2010 season?
Of course not. Otherwise this would not be a greyshirt discussion. He can practice for any bowl though.
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