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Posted on 9/9/24 at 11:19 am to
Posted by Tha crook
Baton Rouge
Member since Oct 2018
1160 posts
Posted on 9/9/24 at 11:19 am to
My take on Harold is he’s just a freak athlete physically. But has a low football IQ . Only way I see him being used is a mark barron way . I think people became really delusional after his break out Arkansas game though . You have to out match your opponent in at least one more phase on defense for Perkins to have a day like he did against Arkansas mainly d line
Posted by Metaloctopus
Louisiana
Member since Nov 2018
6777 posts
Posted on 9/9/24 at 11:20 am to
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This post was edited on 9/9/24 at 11:21 am
Posted by Madking
Member since Apr 2016
67621 posts
Posted on 9/9/24 at 11:20 am to
Sidewalk double standard

Perkins - 10 tackles, 1.5 TFLs, 1 forced fumble bs UGA

“He disappeared and was terrible”


Another player vs Nicholls
2 tackles, 1 TFL

“He was outstanding”


The guy is trying to work backwards to prove a theory facts don’t support and in the process has made several false and hypocritical statements
This post was edited on 9/9/24 at 11:22 am
Posted by Metaloctopus
Louisiana
Member since Nov 2018
6777 posts
Posted on 9/9/24 at 11:25 am to
Yeah and there was a guy yesterday doing the same thing. It's one thing to be critical of his play right now (though they won't criticize the coaches for the way they are using him), but to retroactively trash what he did as a freshman is just unbelievable to me. Some folks refuse to listen to any reason on the matter.
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
110023 posts
Posted on 9/9/24 at 11:27 am to
Texas A&M and jumbo abused Perkins by simply finding him and running right at him. I beleive that took away the chance of keeping him near the edge of the line.

Because UGA did the very same thing next game and ran all over us as well
This post was edited on 9/9/24 at 11:29 am
Posted by Chalkywhite84
New orleans
Member since Dec 2016
34202 posts
Posted on 9/9/24 at 12:00 pm to
quote:

We simply got coordinates who don't know how to scheme his talents into their system... NFL coaches will do a better job coaching his skill set because they always do... dude should be having a Micah Parson type impact for us.


Yall need to stop repeating this Micah parsons line.

He isn't big enough to line up on the edge every play. You have to blitz him, which baker has been doing.

He is playing a position where he has to read and react. He honestly isn't great at being an inside backer yet. I almost like where house was playing him last yr better. Only problem is house didn't blitz him enough.

You have to bring him on delay blitzes up the middle or off the edge. At least last yr he could use his athleticism to cover and run down rbs.

The best answer is he really doesn't have a perfect position because of his size. The one thing he should be doing more is going after the qb though. The problem is you can really only do that on 3rd downs and certain situations.

They are trying to make him into a linebacker. He just isn't very good at getting off of blocks, especially in the run game.
Posted by Tigerfan14
Member since Jun 2014
1738 posts
Posted on 9/9/24 at 12:34 pm to
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The game we lost because Kiffin started running the ball at the hole Perkins vacated to Blitz off the edge?


No, the game we were getting stomped then came back and won in the second half after Perkins lived in the backfield.
Posted by SidewalkTiger
Midwest, USA
Member since Dec 2019
68620 posts
Posted on 9/9/24 at 12:44 pm to
quote:

Well, I reckon that settles the argument. We've identified two plays where a freshman got blocked out of the play. That negates anything positive we could ever say about him, ever again. Call the Hall of Fame and tell them to remove Reggie White's name and bust, because he, too, sometimes got blocked out of a play.

Now before you accuse me of a strawman, I want to be clear that I'm only taking your attempt to invalidate Perkins' play as a freshman and giving it as much respect as you've shown for the arguments in his favor. Nobody here claimed that Perkins was mister perfect. But he was very good, and much better than he is right now, playing another position.


I'm not saying Perkins sucks, I'm saying he was gameplanned around once he started making a name for himself and it was fairly easy to do so as he was pretty much a one trick pony.

Sure, he had a lot of tackles in the game but many were him chasing the ball carrier down from behind ans being involved in tackles after the ball carrier had advanced downfield.
Posted by SidewalkTiger
Midwest, USA
Member since Dec 2019
68620 posts
Posted on 9/9/24 at 5:30 pm to
quote:

Sidewalk double standard

Perkins - 10 tackles, 1.5 TFLs, 1 forced fumble bs UGA

“He disappeared and was terrible”


Another player vs Nicholls
2 tackles, 1 TFL

“He was outstanding”


The guy is trying to work backwards to prove a theory facts don’t support and in the process has made several false and hypocritical statements


Link to where I said Swinson was outstanding or Perkins was terrible. Surely you weren't lying about that.



Posted by Madking
Member since Apr 2016
67621 posts
Posted on 9/9/24 at 5:42 pm to
Who said anything about Swinson? How would you know that’s who I meant unless it was true. And you’re really going to try and say you don’t constantly trash Perkins? Then you accuse me of lying lmao. You’ve got serious problems
This post was edited on 9/9/24 at 5:45 pm
Posted by NorthEndZone92
NOLA
Member since Oct 2014
247 posts
Posted on 9/9/24 at 5:45 pm to
don't need to be a HC or DC to watch film and see that he is undersized for the position. I don't blame him for it. You can hope scheme and placement changes. Film is what it is. Not his fault. Hard to fill a hole and scrape through at his size, even with his speed. Let's hope he can edge and spy his way into greater impact for his team as season goes on and the DC and others see what is evident.
Posted by SidewalkTiger
Midwest, USA
Member since Dec 2019
68620 posts
Posted on 9/9/24 at 5:45 pm to
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Who said anything about Swinson? How would you know that’s who I meant unless it was true?


The stat line, you simpleton.



Now, link to where I said Swinson was outstanding or Perkins was terrible.

Surely you weren't lying about that after all of your posturing.


Posted by AtlantaLSUfan
Baton Rouge
Member since Mar 2009
26908 posts
Posted on 9/9/24 at 5:57 pm to
quote:

Sidewalk double standard

Is ProFootballFocus double standard? They rated Perkins are our worst player on defense.

He’s never going to be a Devin White. I would rather Perkins play anywhere on defense except MLB. He just stands there then chases the play.
Posted by Madking
Member since Apr 2016
67621 posts
Posted on 9/9/24 at 5:58 pm to
Yea because you know his stat line by heart when you never know the numbers for anybody. You told on yourself and I don’t have to prove anything to you because everyone sees your post every day. Besides you can’t name a single time you’ve conceded a point when someone has posted facts to prove you wrong. Not with stats, not with video, not even with your own quotes so it would be pointless anyway.
This post was edited on 9/9/24 at 6:00 pm
Posted by Madking
Member since Apr 2016
67621 posts
Posted on 9/9/24 at 5:58 pm to
The whole point is he isn’t producing because he’s playing out of position. Try to keep up
Posted by SidewalkTiger
Midwest, USA
Member since Dec 2019
68620 posts
Posted on 9/9/24 at 6:00 pm to
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Yea because you know his stat line by heart when you never know the numbers anybody. You told on yourself and I don’t have to prove anything to you because everyone sees your post every day. Besides you can’t name a single time you’ve conceded a point when someone has posted facts to prove you wrong. Not with stats, not with video, not even with your own quotes so it would be pointless anyway.


So much deflection yet surprisingly, no link to these supposed statements I made.

Looks like Madking was caught in yet another lie.

I am shocked!


Posted by Madking
Member since Apr 2016
67621 posts
Posted on 9/9/24 at 6:02 pm to
Again you shouldn’t use terms you don’t know the meaning of. And your little false accusations are proven wrong all the time so say whatever you want, you can’t help yourself but to prove me right.
This post was edited on 9/9/24 at 6:03 pm
Posted by SidewalkTiger
Midwest, USA
Member since Dec 2019
68620 posts
Posted on 9/9/24 at 6:05 pm to
quote:

Again you shouldn’t use terms you don’t know the meaning of. And your little false accusations are proven wrong all the time so say whatever you want, you can’t help yourself but to prove me right.


Yet, there still hasn't been a single link posted.

Yikes.
Posted by Madking
Member since Apr 2016
67621 posts
Posted on 9/9/24 at 6:06 pm to
Don’t need a link, you flood the board bashing Perkins all day everyday
Posted by SidewalkTiger
Midwest, USA
Member since Dec 2019
68620 posts
Posted on 9/9/24 at 6:12 pm to
quote:

Don’t need a link, you flood the board bashing Perkins all day everyday


The lies keep coming, yesterday was the first time I've ever mentioned him on this board, IIRC.
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