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re: I Can't Wait To Watch A Game Without SEC Refs
Posted on 3/14/09 at 2:14 pm to Ron Mexico
Posted on 3/14/09 at 2:14 pm to Ron Mexico
ronnie I have been very disappointed today with your basketball comments. I thought you were a pretty savy guy when it comes to hoops. oh well
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Posted on 3/14/09 at 2:15 pm to EZE Tiger Fan
LSU played all season with SEC Refs and won the SEC.,....wow!!!
Posted on 3/14/09 at 2:15 pm to TigerPhan27
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so why does the SEC have the worst refs?
I know some of them. I won't answer that here.
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If i remember correctly all of these same people blamed the refs for losing the xavier game which wasn't called by SEC officals
I was at the Xavier game. I thought it was officiated just fine.
Posted on 3/14/09 at 2:17 pm to EZE Tiger Fan
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I was at the Xavier game. I thought it was officiated just fine.
i'm just saying the usual blame the ref crowd blamed the refs for that one.
So why would a major conference hire such poor refs?
2 of which refed the final four last year FWIW
Posted on 3/14/09 at 2:19 pm to TigerPhan27
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i'm just saying the usual blame the ref crowd blamed the refs for that one.
Oh, I won't deny it. I bitch about refs. However, I think the game AT bama was the worst one for us this year.
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So why would a major conference hire such poor refs?
The question should be why refs are paid so poorly in the SEC compared to other conferences. This goes for football too.
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2 of which refed the final four last year FWIW
Yes. Were there any SEC teams in the FF?
Posted on 3/14/09 at 2:22 pm to EZE Tiger Fan
so the NCAA just let these terrible SEC refs call the final four by default?
Posted on 3/14/09 at 2:22 pm to TigerPhan27
quote:What makes you think they have to be poor refs to officiate a game badly? What if they were succeeding perfectly well in achieving their goal?
So why would a major conference hire such poor refs?
I mean, would you be shocked if a coach, or a player, or a booster, or anyone else were doing something improper to influence the outcome of the game? If Varnado were doing steroids, would you be shocked? If Marcus Thornton were taking money to throw the game, would you be shocked? If Rick Stansbury had illegally recruited some of their players, would you be shocked? Is there some reason you would be more shocked if the refs turned out to be subject to some of the same influences as everyone else involved in the sport?
Posted on 3/14/09 at 2:25 pm to TigerPhan27
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so the NCAA just let these terrible SEC refs call the final four by default?
Not saying that, but having refs from other conferences does play a part.
FWIW, one of those refs officiated the game AT Bama this year, which is the game I referred to earlier.
That FF ref even T'd up Johnson in that game.
And yes, I know many of their names. Football refs too.
If I find out ahead of time certain refs are officiating basketball games ahead of time, I don't watch the game.
Posted on 3/14/09 at 2:26 pm to EZE Tiger Fan
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If I find out ahead of time certain refs are officiating basketball games ahead of time, I don't watch the game.
i'm sorry
Posted on 3/14/09 at 2:29 pm to TigerPhan27
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i'm sorry
LOL. I am too.
Posted on 3/14/09 at 2:42 pm to am4titansandlsu
I agree as well - the team was beaten but my - how they missed Varnado traveling a couple of times on key 3 point plays.
They called LSU for every bit of contact, but allowed for too much inside contact from Miss State. Varnado is great, but don't tell me there weren't some body contact on some of those "blocks". On another occasion Quinton Thornton, who did a great job on the boards today, was climbed over for an offensive rebound and put back, and I suppose the official had his whistle up his backside.
Once LSU had all those guys with 4 fouls, no one could play at the same intensity.
They called LSU for every bit of contact, but allowed for too much inside contact from Miss State. Varnado is great, but don't tell me there weren't some body contact on some of those "blocks". On another occasion Quinton Thornton, who did a great job on the boards today, was climbed over for an offensive rebound and put back, and I suppose the official had his whistle up his backside.
Once LSU had all those guys with 4 fouls, no one could play at the same intensity.
Posted on 3/14/09 at 2:43 pm to EZE Tiger Fan
I'll say this, the officiating in that 6 overtime game was "incredibly" good throughout the entire game. Every call I saw, could not be argued with - best officiating I've seen all year by far.
Posted on 3/14/09 at 2:46 pm to Templars
quote:I only saw the last 3 OTs, but there was a shitload of contact when 'Cuse had the ball under the basket at the end of one of the OTs (there were too many to keep track of which one), and no call. I know the announcers blew it off saying you don't make a "ticky-tack" call like that in crunch time. I remember thinking, "what could be more 'ticky-tack' than a less than .1 second margin waving off a game-winning shot?"
I'll say this, the officiating in that 6 overtime game was "incredibly" good throughout the entire game. Every call I saw, could not be argued with - best officiating I've seen all year by far
Posted on 3/14/09 at 2:47 pm to King Joey
I don't subscribe to silly conspiracy notions, but the manner that game was called, surely raises eyebrows with me.
Way too much Miss State contact was allowed inside - yet everything was called on LSU - how in the hell does that happen.
Way too much Miss State contact was allowed inside - yet everything was called on LSU - how in the hell does that happen.
This post was edited on 3/14/09 at 2:48 pm
Posted on 3/14/09 at 2:48 pm to King Joey
I think that contact went both ways so much so that it would have been hard to stand one out over the other. I'm talking about that play where UCONN blocked Syracuse to push another overtime, that I believe you are referring to.
The actually block itself looked clean to me and the commentators. It was a good no-call in my book.
The actually block itself looked clean to me and the commentators. It was a good no-call in my book.
This post was edited on 3/14/09 at 2:51 pm
Posted on 3/14/09 at 2:53 pm to Templars
quote:I don't subscribe to silly ones, either. But there are real conspiracies out there (we have an entire set of federal criminal statutes devoted to them). What I find silly is the fact that there are literally thousands of cases documented by the NCAA of players, coaches, administrators and boosters cheating and being punished by the NCAA for doing so. And yet, in the 100+ year history of the NCAA/IAAUS, I know of not one single documented case of a referee -- in any sport -- being punished by the NCAA for cheating. The notion that it has never happened is absurd. The fact that it has never been reported or punished by the NCAA is alarming to any rational observer.
I don't subscribe to silly conspiracy notions, but the manner that game was called, surely raises eyebrows with me.
Posted on 3/14/09 at 3:40 pm to EZE Tiger Fan
+1
Posted on 3/14/09 at 3:43 pm to Templars
quote:It was the one where the 'Cuse coach was shown with the disbelieving waving of his arms afterwards. Both the commentators agreed there was contact but that it was a proper no-call "in that situation" (which I always thought was a bullshite notion).
I'm talking about that play where UCONN blocked Syracuse to push another overtime, that I believe you are referring to.
The actually block itself looked clean to me and the commentators. It was a good no-call in my book.
Posted on 3/14/09 at 3:58 pm to King Joey
Personal Fouls
LSU-26
MSU-13
LSU-26
MSU-13
Posted on 3/14/09 at 4:00 pm to Templars
I have to chuckle at these posts lamenting the "poor officiating" in the SEC. As a fan of a Pac-10 team, I thought that the Pac-10 had the worst officials in the country. At least you would think so by browsing the message boards. But the one common denominator that seems to apply to threads about the "bad officiating" is that they appear on the board(s) of the losing team(s). Very seldom do fans of a winning team spend much time discussing the refs, they just want to focus celebrating a win. It's interesting, but fans in virtually every conference in the country feel that their refs "suck." Always after a loss.
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