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King Joey
| Favorite team: | LSU  |
| Location: | Just south of the DC/US border |
| Biography: | "Please leave out all sordid details." There's not much else to tell . . . . |
| Interests: | LSU |
| Occupation: | Lawyer |
| Number of Posts: | 12743 |
| Registered on: | 3/3/2004 |
| Online Status: | Not Online |
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re: LSU not on the list. 4 LA Univ. in FED point shaving scheme. Antonio Blakeney major role.
Posted by King Joey on 1/15/26 at 5:14 pm to ProjectP2294
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You think the refs make less than the players at Coppin State?
How much do you think whatever conference Coppin State is in pays it's basketball refs?
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re: LSU not on the list. 4 LA Univ. in FED point shaving scheme. Antonio Blakeney major role.
Posted by King Joey on 1/15/26 at 1:59 pm to TigersJump
Still can't believe people are wasting time bribing players when the refs are so much better suited to this. They have far more control and make far less money.
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re: Hard to get excited about any player coming when they're only there for the money, not LSU
Posted by King Joey on 1/13/26 at 11:44 am to Jest a game
Do you still have season tickets to your favorite WLAF team? And XFL? I mean, if your "man card" depends on being a die-hard fan of a minor league pro football team, I'd assume you'd maintain your tickets, right? :rolleyes:
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Those who don't adapt, wither away and die.
Hardly. For the most part, they simply find something else to spend their time, energy and money on that they actually enjoy.
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It's been going on for over 100 years
If you genuinely believed that college football exists today in the same form as it did 100 years ago, then there would be no point discussing anything with you.
I suspect you actually know better than that. So I will attempt to engage in a real discussion.
Paying players like this has absolutely not been going on for 100 years. As you yourself referenced, in 1908 LSU was penalized by the (then) shepherds of the sport for the sin of paying players. Whether we were actually guilty of it or not is irrelevant, the point is that it was roundly condemned because college football was an amateur sport. That model continued to exist through a multitude of other changes in the sport for over 100 more years until recently, when the dial spun dramatically in rapidly in the other direction. So we no longer have an amateur sport of college football, which means we no longer have the sport that existed until roughly the last 5-7 years (I don't remember when NIL actually first came into existence). Instead we have this new thing. The people making money off of it insist on calling it "college football" to milk the profits off the decades of emotional investment from fans into the amateur sport of college football. But whether it is actually college football, and (if it is) whether it will remain so, are genuine questions.
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College football was doing fine for about a century before you got interested. It's growing even now.
That's only true if it is still college football. That is the point. The sport has not changed in the sense of refining pass interference or instituting overtime; it has fundamentally changed from an extra-curricular amateur school activity to a professional sports league. And all the pounding and shouting about players getting paid under the table will never change that simple fact; the fact that it was (by necessity) under the table is a qualitative, not quantitative, difference.
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If you don't like college football, fine. Leave and take your keyboard with you.
I love college football, and have for as long as I can remember. And the money hasn't changed that. The only thing that I fear might change it is the status of the players. When they stop being LSU students playing football for LSU, I don't know if it will still be "LSU Football" for me. But for the moment, it still is. I just do not agree with the notion of, "this is the game, you have to adapt". If people don't like minor leage pro-football, there is no reason for them to pretend to like it just because LSU sponsors a team. If LSU sponsored a second-rate professional ballet troop, I probably wouldn't be emotionally invested in that, either. Would you?
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re: Outgoing transfers are not making vertical or even lateral moves in the portal
Posted by King Joey on 1/13/26 at 8:07 am to White Tiger
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All of that is opinion. This program has little to show following its 2019 season. A SEC west crown? Ok. JD5 was great but as a program it has gone mostly nowhere.
Not actually taking a side here, but your argument does raise some questions:
1) why cut off since '19? We've got three National Championships in the last 25 years (including the '19 dream season). If you're going to insist those have zero bearing, that's fine; but it's at LEAST as arbitrary as the OP's assertions
2) what exactly do those other programs have to show since '19 that's better? OM's success is pretty clearly tied to Kiffin, and we have him now. So besides his success, what makes Ole Miss a move up, or even lateral? And as for A&M, they have a one-season outlier this year, and a lot of mediocre history the last couple of decades to go along with it. They've had two 10+ win seasons this millennium (including this year) and this is the first year they've even shared a division lead since they were a Big XII team. Tennessee has a great history, but since Fulmer retired they've only had a couple of 10 win seasons, and haven't won the SEC since '98. And if you're going to hang everything on "playoffs or nothing", fine: we won the CFP in '19, and none of them have ever won it. In fact, Ole Miss is the only one of them that has even won a game in the CFP, and as I mentioned above, we got their mojo.
LSU is clearly ahead of Ole Miss & A&M as a program. The only one that we can't claim clear superiority to is Tennessee, and that's only because of the extended history from last century. In modern terms, we are head and shoulders ahead of them.
And you could argue that these young kids don't care about anything before the last year or two, and you could be right. But that's not the assertion. The assertion is about whether the moves they are making are ACTUALLY lateral or upward moves, not whether the kids see it that way.
Okay, maybe I am taking a side. :lol:
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Either you in it to win or not! LSU did not create the current situation college football is in so they have a decision do we try to win or not? If yes then you have to do what they are doing period.
That seems entirely reasonable for the school. But the OP was talking about the fans. And there seems to be a strange notion on message boards like this that we are somehow compelled or obligated to love whatever the NCAA tells us to love. Not caring about a "sport" is still an option. Most of us are LSU fans because we came to love college football and LSU is our team. But if that sport -- the sport we fell in love with -- no longer exists, why would we feel compelled to invest our time, energy, emotion and -- especially -- money into whatever bastardized creation they put on display?
Many people on here comment extesively about how they don't care about womens basketball, or softball, or tennis, or swimming & diving, or some other LSU sports. Presumably, that is because they simply aren't invested in those sports because those sports don't appeal to them. If what happens on Saturday nights in the fall isn't the sport that we grew up loving, who is to say that it necessarily has to appeal to us? If you don't care about LSU's Gymnastics team, why should the OP care about LSU's Minor League NFL team? I don't particularly care about the sport of baseball, but I love LSU baseball solely and specifically because it is LSU athletes competing for LSU. The same has always been true for LSU Football as well. The more that reality diminishes, the more that emotion investment is uncertain. And that is 100% not a diminution of my (or anyone else's) love or commitment to LSU's College Football team, it is only a consequence of LSU (along with the rest of the NCAA) abandoning College Football as a sport.
College Football is 100% dying, especially at the "Major" level like LSU. Whether any particular fan of College Football feels an emotional attachment to the new sport being introduced is completely up to them. Passing on that is no different than anyone else passing on any other LSU endeavor. Would you pay thousands of dollars for season tickets to watch LSU's groundskeeping staff do their job? No? Then why would you pay that to watch some other LSU employee doing their job? If it's because you find professional football entertaining, I've got news for you: there's MUCH better professional football happening every Sunday throughout football season (and even longer, for now). Maybe you love even more professional football, and if so that's great for you. But the history of past minor leagues of pro football suggests that most people don't share that love; at least, not enough to make such a league viable.
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Roll Call is 1000 times better
I don't know about 1000 times better, but it's definitely better. I usually enjoy both of them.
And 10 years ago, I would call it satire the way they are going overboard on Kiffin. I feel like they are mocking the way everyone is overreacting to Kiffin leaving and all the drama around it. But these days, who knows?
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re: Portal King
Posted by King Joey on 1/12/26 at 4:02 pm to coolpapaboze
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What an a-hole.
And yet, you all continue to put money in his pocket by mentioning him in posts. One of you actually called for people to tweet him and directly drive his engagement revenue even higher. Are y'all on the guy's payroll or something?
Note, I declined to mention his name so that this post wouldn't add to his algorithm numbers.
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re: Chambliss Waiver…. DENIED
Posted by King Joey on 1/9/26 at 3:02 pm to TrueBaldPate
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Not over
Agreed. I am anxiously awaiting the appeal by Ole Miss, the subsequent denial, the flurry of legal filings, the ugly, high-profile court case where the Rebs get a hearing in federal court and finally get the emotional reprieve of a legal victory so they have some spark to build hope around for next season.
And then have the court order the NCAA to give him a special portal-window exemption so he can transfer to LSU and lead Lane's new team to an ACTUAL championship.
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re: Oxford, Mississippi this morning
Posted by King Joey on 1/9/26 at 2:51 pm to lsufball19
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frick that.
Yup. There is no chance in hell Lane Kiffin would ever influence my emotions towards Ole Miss. I hated them before he was born, much less before he even thought about coaching there. And I will continue to hate them long after he has left them, and long after he leaves LSU (how and when ever that happens).
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I think it is beyond hilarious that people on this message board are arguing about whether or not Miami are chronic cheaters based on a game that happened in 2026. As everyone on Earth hasn't know they were cheaters since before you kids were born! :lol:
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re: Merry Christmas everyone
Posted by King Joey on 12/25/25 at 2:28 pm to TigerDavid3527
Merry Christmas, fellow Tigers!
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I don't think it is necessary unreasonable that Wade retained his own attorney in response to an investigation of him by his employer
He didn't. There was no investigation of him by his employer at that point. There was an investigation of his actions by the NCAA and, apparently (at that point), the FBI. LSU wanted to meet with him to figure out whether they needed an investigation (or a cover up, or a stonewalling, or whatever). He refused, and hired his own attorney. THAT is what prompted LSU to "investigate" him (and pretty quickly, fire him). That is entirely practical, since they had no way of knowing what dirt he could or would serve up to the NCAA to save his own skin since, again, he wouldn't communicate with them. If your employee is at the center of an investigation which could theoretically land him in jail for several years, and could also possibly nail you with millions of dollars worth of sanctions and/or penalties, then he ghosts you AND hires his own lawyer, the most obvious logical conclusion is that he is contemplating selling you out to save himself (or has already done it). It looks like that isn't what Wade actually did in this case, but how could LSU have possibly concluded that he wasn't going to do that when, again, he refused to even tell them that much? Not even a, "hey, don't do anything rash because I promise I'm not going to turn on you." He didn't even pretend to reassure them.
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That's probably not true. Throughout the history it has been shown "cooperating" with the NCAA generally doesn't work in your favor.
I didn't say cooperate with the NCAA. I said cooperate with LSU. Had he communicated with LSU they could very well have worked out a response (or refusal to respond) with a consolidated front, stonewalling entirely if necessary, with some confidence that they wouldn't be left holding the bag. But since he refused to even communicate with LSU, they had zero opportunity to do that. They couldn't even tell the NCAA, "go frick yourself, nobody's talking to you," because Wade wasn't even there for LSU to tell him not to cooperate. And that complete refusal to even communicate with LSU, much less cooperate with them, is 100% on Wade. THAT is how he earned himself a summary sacking.
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Severe? LSU's sanctions were effectively nothing.
Three years probation in addition to the loss of scholarships, plus the football stuff, but also the "show cause" would have affected LSU since Wade would still have been our coach. But, as has been pointed out by others, had there been a unified front of stonewalling (like at some other programs) the sanctions might well have been even less without our even having to self-sanction. But Wade made that impossible by refusing to communicate with LSU. It's impossible to stonewall when the main source on your side isn't cooperating with you.
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Tate and Woodward emphatically said no because they didn't trust Wade.
Nor should they, or anyone else who contemplates employing him. In the single biggest professional crisis of his career (created entirely by his own foolishness), he refused to even communicate with the employers he endangered. No one with any common sense should ever consider trusting him. If NC State's contract with him doesn't have iron-clad, seven-digit plus penalty clauses for anything short of absolutely open-book cooperation, they are fools. The fact that people with influence got pissed about it is simply further proof that having money (and therefore influence) is not a sign of having common sense. Of course, the history of boosters in college sports -- and some owners in professional sports (*cough*DanSnyder*cough*) -- along with most celebrity news has offered plenty of proof of that already.
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re: Current SEC Kenpom MBB rankings, LSU is 9th in SEC.
Posted by King Joey on 12/23/25 at 11:45 am to Oilfieldbiology
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was let go for the same investigation
Persistent lie. Wade was not fired for the investigation. He was fired for telling his employer to go frick itself and refusing to discuss with that employer the investigation that could (and did) result in major risk to that employer. If your employee does some shady shite that could cost your company millions of dollars, and you say, "hey, buddy, come talk to me about this situation and tell me what's going on," and he ghosts you and hires his own lawyer, you'd be an idiot to keep him with your company. If he won't even tell you that he didn't do it or that they don't have solid proof, and won't cooperate with your own lawyers, he is obviously trying to screw you to save himself.
That's why Wade was fired. No action was taken until he refused to meet with LSU and discuss the investigation. If he'd met with them and cooperated with LSU's own response to the investigation, there's no reason to think either he would be fired or that LSU would have been sanctioned as severely as they were. LSU had to offer sanctions because they had no idea what Wade might say to the NCAA to save his own skin (since he wouldn't even tell LSU what actually happened).
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re: I think I want Ole Miss to lose vs Tulane
Posted by King Joey on 12/17/25 at 10:09 am to BabyDraco1499
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I don't get the hate for Tulane,
Old school in-state rivalry. From the inception of LSU sports, through the early pre-conference days, and the first few decades of SEC rivalry (until they left the conference), Tulane was our bitter in-state rival. Ole Miss was always our most bitter out-of-state rival. It wasn't until a few decades after Tulane left the SEC and fell back in competitiveness that Ole Miss started moving into the clear top position as our rival. For some of us older fans, though, that Tulane hate still burns pretty bright.
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re: I think I want Ole Miss to lose vs Tulane
Posted by King Joey on 12/17/25 at 10:08 am to BabyDraco1499
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I don't get the hate for Tulane,
Old school in-state rivalry. From the inception of LSU sports, through the early pre-conference days, and the first few decades of SEC rivalry (until they left the conference), Tulane was our bitter in-state rival. Ole Miss was always our most bitter out-of-state rival. It wasn't until a few decades after Tulane left the SEC and fell back in competitiveness that Ole Miss started moving into the clear top position as our rival. For some of us older fans, though, that Tulane hate still burns pretty bright.
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re: I think I want Ole Miss to lose vs Tulane
Posted by King Joey on 12/17/25 at 9:59 am to thelawnwranglers
This is literally my worst case "meteor game" scenario.
I simply cannot bring myself to actually hope for either of these teams to win. And it is deeply uncertain which one I want to lose more. I suspect come gametime (if I'm troubled enough to watch at all) my more recently inflamed Ole Miss hatred will triumph over the more distantly smoldering Tulane hatred, but I honestly can't tell yet.
Could it be more than a coincidence that 3i Atlas just happened to pick this season to appear in our solar system? :dunno:
GEAUX COMET!!!
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I simply cannot bring myself to actually hope for either of these teams to win. And it is deeply uncertain which one I want to lose more. I suspect come gametime (if I'm troubled enough to watch at all) my more recently inflamed Ole Miss hatred will triumph over the more distantly smoldering Tulane hatred, but I honestly can't tell yet.
Could it be more than a coincidence that 3i Atlas just happened to pick this season to appear in our solar system? :dunno:
GEAUX COMET!!!
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re: 15,000 new season ticket requests since Lane Kiffin was announced
Posted by King Joey on 12/10/25 at 3:15 am to GreenieTiger
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One is a doctor and the other is an engineer and they are both in their 70s.
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get the cops called on them at least one game every season.
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Only at LSU.
Damn right!
#realfans
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re: For basketball fans: Jordan vs. Shaq pregame in 1996
Posted by King Joey on 12/9/25 at 1:57 am to Juan Betanzos
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Sure Wilt could jump out of the roof… but he didn’t have “guard-type” moves and run the fast break like SHAQ.
Wilt wasn't far off, if at all. The stunning part about him is that he had Shaq-like size and athleticism more than a decade before Shaq was born. Wilt would have been a star NBA Center in 2009, 50 years after he was drafted in 1959. A specimen like him in the NBA of 65 years ago was literally so unfair that they had to change the actual rules of the game. THAT is a GOAT.
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I think Saban and Meyer are the only two coaches in the last 30 years or so to leave a head coaching job to take another head coaching job at a different university and go on to win the Championship.
Les Miles?
Mack Brown?
Bobby Bowden?
Steve Spurrier?
It's not all that common, but it's far from rare.
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