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re: I have no problem with Crowton and here is why...
Posted on 12/2/10 at 12:08 pm to givemeabeer
Posted on 12/2/10 at 12:08 pm to givemeabeer
Coaching up Jefferson is like putting icing on a turd and calling it a cake. It's still a turd no matter what you do to it. But if you like eating turds, then good luck finding someone else.
And yes, Lee was talented out of high school. So was Brock Berlin. High school isn't college. Do a better job evaluating not only talent but also intelligence. Neither of these qualities is found under the helmet of #9. Miles could have hired a real QB coach if he thought there was an issue.
And yes, Lee was talented out of high school. So was Brock Berlin. High school isn't college. Do a better job evaluating not only talent but also intelligence. Neither of these qualities is found under the helmet of #9. Miles could have hired a real QB coach if he thought there was an issue.
Posted on 12/2/10 at 12:09 pm to lsuoaktree
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you people are unreal! JJ and JL will, would, and never will be sec qbs. point is we need a qb badly but we are 10-2 with no qb.
If Crowton stays, when Mettenberger gets here, you'll watch him regress and weep. Believe it.
Posted on 12/2/10 at 12:09 pm to lsuoaktree
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you people are unreal! JJ and JL will, would, and never will be sec qbs. point is we need a qb badly but we are 10-2 with no qb.
I'm tired of hearing this shite about JJ.
No matter what you think about Jefferson, he has been a far better QB than Crowton has been an OC.
Posted on 12/2/10 at 12:10 pm to Chazz Reinhold
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And yes, Lee was talented out of high school. So was Brock Berlin. High school isn't college. Do a better job evaluating not only talent but also intelligence. Neither of these qualities is found under the helmet of #9. Miles could have hired a real QB coach if he thought there was an issue.
Haven't heard that one in a while. The force is strong with this one.
Posted on 12/2/10 at 12:10 pm to Chazz Reinhold
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Coaching up Jefferson is like putting icing on a turd and calling it a cake. It's still a turd no matter what you do to it. But if you like eating turds, then good luck finding someone else.
And yes, Lee was talented out of high school. So was Brock Berlin. High school isn't college. Do a better job evaluating not only talent but also intelligence. Neither of these qualities is found under the helmet of #9. Miles could have hired a real QB coach if he thought there was an issue.
So Jefferson's regression is due to being dumb . .
But Lee's regression is due to something else . . .
Posted on 12/2/10 at 12:14 pm to willeteal
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No matter what you think about Jefferson, he has been a far better QB than Crowton has been an OC.
That is like the pot calling the kettle black. It just makes no sense. JJ will never be a good or even descent sec qb. You could let Olivia Manning give birth to him and he would still suck! Its just that plain and simple. Put it in your pocket and smoke it!
Posted on 12/2/10 at 12:15 pm to lsuoaktree
These arguments would hold water if not for all the evidence showing that Crowton has done this before. He has NEVER been able to develop a QB and every team he has coached has regressed in offensive production. He has to GO.
Posted on 12/2/10 at 12:15 pm to Chazz Reinhold
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Coaching up Jefferson is like putting icing on a turd and calling it a cake. It's still a turd no matter what you do to it. But if you like eating turds, then good luck finding someone else.
JJ's been inaccurate at times throwing the ball.
But as a QB overall -- he gives effort and makes plays despite the lack of coaching. I'll take the Alabama win.
But calling the guy a turd, really?
I think we need to change the $900,000 "icing" is the problem.
Posted on 12/2/10 at 12:16 pm to Chazz Reinhold
A few years ago you would have been on the front lines calling Dennis Dixon a terrible QB who could never make a decent PAC-10 QB.
What did Dixon do the NEXT year after Crowton left?
Almost win the Heisman.
What did Dixon do the NEXT year after Crowton left?
Almost win the Heisman.
Posted on 12/2/10 at 12:20 pm to lsuoaktree
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No matter what you think about Jefferson, he has been a far better QB than Crowton has been an OC.
That is like the pot calling the kettle black. It just makes no sense. JJ will never be a good or even descent sec qb. You could let Olivia Manning give birth to him and he would still suck! Its just that plain and simple. Put it in your pocket and smoke it!
Ban as a hate crime?
WTF is this?
Denham in the house?
Posted on 12/2/10 at 12:21 pm to Chazz Reinhold
I voted in the TD poll to replace Crowton because we just went thru our 3rd year with QB problems. I do believe Crowton can run a great offense if he has the talent in place. But it is also his job to get the talent in place and not have the same problems for 3 years straight. If we get this corrected this year I believe we can have a great offense with Crowton as OC.
Posted on 12/2/10 at 12:21 pm to heatom2
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These arguments would hold water if not for all the evidence showing that Crowton has done this before.
Thank You.
Posted on 12/2/10 at 12:32 pm to Chazz Reinhold
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I don't think there is a coordinator in the country who could do better with the crap we have had to work with.
WOW,
Jlee, top 3 gunslinger in Texas,
JJ, meh, needs a lot of work, but definately had "tools"...good arm, big, could move a little..
R. Shep - fricking #1 Dual threat QB in the country, nuff said....
fail...crowton should be gone...yesterday...
Posted on 12/2/10 at 12:33 pm to Antonio Moss
Crowton has not done the job. Lee is still suspect, although you can argue that he wasn't given a fair shot this year. But to argue that JJ is anything but a disappointment to this point is nonsense, and those doing so know it. So what is their problem?
Posted on 12/2/10 at 12:49 pm to TigerFan55555
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Jlee
Elite 11 qb fwiw
Posted on 12/2/10 at 12:50 pm to Chazz Reinhold
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I don't think there is a coordinator in the country who could do better with the crap we have had to work with
DISAGREE!!!!!
Posted on 12/2/10 at 12:50 pm to Chazz Reinhold
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In 2007 he had Flynn/RP at QB and a solid offensive line. Our offense was awesome. Since then he has had Hatch, Lee, and Jefferson. None of which belong in the SEC. I don't think there is a coordinator in the country who could do better with the crap we have had to work with. If anyone is to blame, it's Miles for allowing this to happen. If Mettenberger comes, I predict a much improved offense. If not, it will be the same thing next year. If you fire Crowton now, fine, but who do you think can magically make our QBs play better than they have?
wow finally a MATURE reasoned thought...
Posted on 12/2/10 at 12:52 pm to lsugang
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In 2007 he had Flynn/RP at QB and a solid offensive line. Our offense was awesome. Since then he has had Hatch, Lee, and Jefferson. None of which belong in the SEC. I don't think there is a coordinator in the country who could do better with the crap we have had to work with. If anyone is to blame, it's Miles for allowing this to happen. If Mettenberger comes, I predict a much improved offense. If not, it will be the same thing next year. If you fire Crowton now, fine, but who do you think can magically make our QBs play better than they have?
wow finally a MATURE reasoned thought...
Matt Flynn was a FIFTH YEAR SENIOR, developed by Jimbo and crew. Crowton, the QBs coach, has had three years to develop highly talented prospects and has completely failed. IMO.
Posted on 12/2/10 at 12:53 pm to lsugang
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wow finally a MATURE reasoned thought...
Not really
Here's a question:
Do slow grinding running plays belong in a two minute drill that take 1:30 off the clock?
Posted on 12/2/10 at 1:00 pm to Chazz Reinhold
I agree!! The one game JJ was throwing like a real Sec Quaterback Crowton called an awesome game. Hard to call a lot of plays when you don't have a qtrback.!
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