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re: I know we want multiple WR sets and all that, but O is right. We really aren't there yet.
Posted on 11/12/18 at 11:02 am to The Pirate King
Posted on 11/12/18 at 11:02 am to The Pirate King
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The fact of the matter is with the current turnstile of an o line, it wouldn’t matter if we were calling more quick throws or not. The d line is just jumping into throwing lanes and batting balls down. Not to mention Joe doesn’t exactly have a quick release or the ability to move quickly inside the pocket
You and your ilk will never hold this unqualified staff accountable.
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Posted on 11/12/18 at 11:09 am to Rickdaddy4188
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Utter bullshite.
matt last year had a bad line, 3rd stringer from purdue at QB and 1 receiver in chark and he worked with it to produce better numbers than this year with more experienced and talented WR and QB and what was supposed to be a beast O line.
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Stop running deep pass plays with just 2 wr options.
meh. the HC admitted and you can watch film we had many 3 receiver routes at auburn with 7 protecting.i am sure this continued against others teams as well. i would have to rewatch games. they are still not getting it done with 3 WR's!
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AND FOR GODS SAKE TEACH THIS TEAM HOW TO RUN A GOD DAMN SCREEN PLAY
good luck
Posted on 11/12/18 at 11:09 am to Stephen1979
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Just give him 2-3 more classes
Posted on 11/12/18 at 11:14 am to GeauxTigerNation
We’re having a rough time with pass blocking, so of course the solution is line up in a formation that gives the Oline MORE defensive men to block and the QB less options to throw to!
Crazy! We are taking a problem and compounding it!!
This is common sense... it’s easier to block less defenders than more defenders.
Spread them out, use quick passing game and run game that takes advantage of over-aggressiveness, and make the Oline struggles irrelevant!
Crazy! We are taking a problem and compounding it!!
This is common sense... it’s easier to block less defenders than more defenders.
Spread them out, use quick passing game and run game that takes advantage of over-aggressiveness, and make the Oline struggles irrelevant!
This post was edited on 11/12/18 at 11:20 am
Posted on 11/12/18 at 11:15 am to Fat Bastard
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meh. the HC admitted and you can watch film we had many 3 receiver routes at auburn with 7 protecting.i am sure this continued against others teams as well. i would have to rewatch games. they are still not getting it done with 3 WR'
It crazy watching our oc go into max protect without realizing that it brings more defenders to the line and severely limits where a qb can go woth the ball.
Like shortyrob said..
Max protect is dinasour ball.
Get in the gun and slant teams to death intead of going max protect and limiting the qb
Posted on 11/12/18 at 11:16 am to Mo Jeaux
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The Narrative!
Can we have a chat about who recruited those 'slow' offensive players, as many of them are sophomores and juniors...?
Posted on 11/12/18 at 11:25 am to GeauxTigerNation
Well isnt it the coaching staff’s job to get the qb protected? Or at least attempt to scheme around it?
Posted on 11/12/18 at 11:31 am to GeauxTigerNation
We really will never be there. O and E are too chicken to SPREAD.
Posted on 11/16/18 at 11:08 am to RogerTheShrubber
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I'm pretty sure they decided to grind it out after the 14 point lead, which is a bit bothersome to me
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RogerTheShrubber
I get this and the OP was saying the QB had no time to throw and simply not the case. We were actually throwing the ball well just not enough.
This was a game we could have easily thrown the ball more.
With this said the people that want more passing [me included] need to realize the defense will get on the field quicker allowing the other team to run more plays.
It has been said spread teams don't win championships, the teams that win championships other than BAMA have dynamic QB's and most of them are not hurry up spread offensive teams.
This LSU team does not that the elite talent at a few position to contend for a championship this year but we can compete with every team in the country other than BAMA on any given day.
2019 recruiting class is shaping up to be special and a few more great players this team will be competing with BAMA
Posted on 11/16/18 at 11:33 am to GeauxTigerNation
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Burrow has 0.5 seconds to find a Target and throw the ball
Oh I see. So the answer to that is to run these long developing plays, because we can't protect the passer?
Even better idea is to do that in the shadow of your own end zone vs Alabama.
Posted on 11/16/18 at 11:49 am to MasterAbe1
The short quick passes work until the defense adjusts. Both Florida and Bama moved coverage up and pretty much shut that off as well.
Posted on 11/16/18 at 11:52 am to Goldrush25
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Oh I see. So the answer to that is to run these long developing plays, because we can't protect the passer? Even better idea is to do that in the shadow of your own end zone vs Alabama.
Or go max protection and send 2 Wrs out to be covered by 4/5 defenders.
Posted on 11/16/18 at 11:55 am to mhc4tigers
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The short quick passes work until the defense adjusts. Both Florida and Bama moved coverage up and pretty much shut that off as well.
If your line is being blown up, you adjust to shorter routes. When the defense adjust to that, the offense adjust again. Its a constant chess match. Kiffin, briles and other bright OCs will make this adjustment to quick passes, lulling the D up and make a double move over the top. When you have a simplified scheme with no creativity in playcalling, you are dead in the water once the D adjust....get it now?
This post was edited on 11/16/18 at 11:58 am
Posted on 11/16/18 at 12:00 pm to mhc4tigers
quote:Then sluggo and double move them.... if you have the offense prepared for constraint plays.
The short quick passes work until the defense adjusts.
Posted on 11/16/18 at 12:07 pm to bstew3006
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If your line is being blown up, you adjust to shorter routes. When the defense adjust to that, the offense adjust again. Its a constant chess match
Right.
It's like our coaches do one thing, it's countered and then it's like, "whelp, that's it, out of ideas."
Maybe you use tune-up games to work on things like that, not get a lead then try to run the clock out.
This post was edited on 11/16/18 at 12:09 pm
Posted on 11/16/18 at 12:12 pm to Spotswoode
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What's more, Les was recruiting lazy.
He should have fired his recruiting coordinator, IMO
Posted on 11/16/18 at 12:14 pm to Goldrush25
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It's like our coaches do one thing, it's countered and then it's like, "whelp, that's it, out of ideas."
Yep, but people want to run cover for the coaches and wont point out the obvious.
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Maybe you use tune-up games to work on things like that, not get a lead then try to run the clock out.
This has been an issue for years and LES was the worst! I have no problem bleeding clock late in games (mid 4th), don't start running clock after the 1st drive of 3rd. You run your offense, work on plays and formations.
This post was edited on 11/16/18 at 12:15 pm
Posted on 11/16/18 at 12:16 pm to bstew3006
Don’t you know ? 2 WR 2 TE 2 RB set is different than what we’ve been doing for the last decade so long as it’s a shotgun snap.
Posted on 11/16/18 at 12:17 pm to GeauxTigerNation
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We can have the QB fully protected and yet, 2-7 Arkansas was in our back field all night.
Burrow has 0.5 seconds to find a Target and throw the ball.
Our rushing yards per carry was abysmal on Saturday .
We seriously cannot do anything with this offensive line. Nothing at all.
I disagree.
Look at Arkansas game. LINK
At 2:00 mark, Burrow stares at Jefferson and it's the wrong read, He should have hit Troy Carter in the flat immediately once he hits his back foot.
At 2:30, 2nd and 17, the QB draw is stupid. WR are blocking immediately so clearly that was designed. Scare play call bailed out by targeting call.
At 4:50, Burrow doesn't read the all out blitz, he should know to throw to the route where the blitz came from. Crossing route right in the middle is open. Hit back foot and throw.
At 8:24, Hits back foot and throws great back shoulder throw.
At 9:22, Scared play call at 3rd and 14 to run a designed QB draw. Just playing for the FG just like all year.
I can't find the whole game so this is a small sample.
Posted on 11/16/18 at 12:19 pm to GeauxTigerNation
BS. All off season was wr was our strength. E was going to open it up and get them involved.
He mad the wrong hire. Again.
He mad the wrong hire. Again.
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