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re: I still miss Jamarcus
Posted on 4/30/09 at 6:50 am to Sammich
Posted on 4/30/09 at 6:50 am to Sammich
quote:
No, it was more competitive than ever before. LSU stood out.
LSU didn't stand out at all, we lost 2 games like many other schools without facing any great teams collapsing in one of the losses. The SEC was weaker than normal in 2007 along with the entire nation. Its just an opinion, but I think its a pretty reasonable one.
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Posted on 4/30/09 at 7:52 am to PRIDGENTIGER
quote:
You can say you like Flynn more cause he won a championship. But dont say you like him more cause he was a better qb cause it just makes you look ignorant
BOOOOOM!
Posted on 4/30/09 at 8:03 am to Sammich
quote:
No, it was more competitive than ever before. LSU stood out.
LSU didn't stand out. we lost 2 games
Posted on 4/30/09 at 8:10 am to SlowFlowPro
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LSU didn't stand out. we lost 2 games
exactly, and we didn't dominate a game for over a month. We limped through tulane, florida, blew the kentucky game (up 17), auburn, bama, ole miss, lost to arkansas, and barely beat tennessee.
We got in because we beat the crap out of VT early early in the season. We certainly weren't THE dominate team in the country like Florida was this year, who won their last 10 games by double digits
Posted on 4/30/09 at 8:29 am to TigerBait1127
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barely beat tennessee
IMHO we might not have beaten Tennessee with Matt Flynn at QB. Yes I am very serious.
Posted on 4/30/09 at 8:48 am to MC123
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IMHO we might not have beaten Tennessee with Matt Flynn at QB.
shite, there are some posters in this thread that still think flynn played in that game.
Posted on 4/30/09 at 8:54 am to MC123
"IMHO we might not have beaten Tennessee with Matt Flynn at QB. Yes I am very serious."
RP played well in the SECCG and you are certainly entitled to your opinion, but it is a difficult opinion for me to share given that Flynn NEVER started a game for the Tigers in which LSU's offense scored fewer than 27 points in regulation (feel free to check me on that). However, our Tigers' offense put up only 14 against TN. Sure, there could be a number of explanations, but I think this is pretty strong evidence that LSU would have beaten TN with a reasonably healthy Flynn at QB.
RP played well in the SECCG and you are certainly entitled to your opinion, but it is a difficult opinion for me to share given that Flynn NEVER started a game for the Tigers in which LSU's offense scored fewer than 27 points in regulation (feel free to check me on that). However, our Tigers' offense put up only 14 against TN. Sure, there could be a number of explanations, but I think this is pretty strong evidence that LSU would have beaten TN with a reasonably healthy Flynn at QB.
Posted on 4/30/09 at 9:02 am to PRIDGENTIGER
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But we won games in spite of him in 07
Interesting assessment, cause he was the offensive mvp of the championship.
quote:
Do ya'll not remember the Alabama game?
Yeah, the game that we won. The game where he made the td pass on fourth down to early. Yeah I remember. And don't say people are racist just because they might prefer a certain white player over a certain black player. It's ignorant.
Posted on 4/30/09 at 9:07 am to tmart2912
Flynn had a great NC game.
This post was edited on 4/30/09 at 9:18 am
Posted on 4/30/09 at 11:38 am to tmart2912
i didnt say everyone who liked flynn over jr was a racist. I said there has to be dumn rednecks on here and it made people that said flynn was a better qb sound ignorant. In the alabama game didnt flyn throw three int. And as far as the early td goes it was a ten yard in route and early did the rest.
Posted on 4/30/09 at 12:39 pm to N.O. via West-Cal
I dont know. Flynn didnt really paly all that great the year he started. HEster was more of a difference maker. Without Hester, I doubt we would have won the NC but without Flynn, I think we still would have won.
Posted on 4/30/09 at 12:45 pm to Ray Ray Rodman
I question whether we could have won the 2007 NC without Flynn if for no other reason than we would have been very thin at QB, with our starter, Perrilloux, in trouble half the time.
Posted on 4/30/09 at 12:51 pm to TheDoc
quote:Thank you for yet again demonstrating your own racism.
yeah, you know what? you are absolutely correct.
there was NEVER ANY racist remarks hurled at the "dumb" black QB at LSU.
The comment that you quoted from my post about how I don't believe "that happened" with JaMarcus was part of a discussion regarding the performances of JaMarcus' team in '06 and Peyton Manning's teams at Tennessee. The previous post -- the relevant portion of which is actually quoted in my own post from which you cut out of context -- discussed the tendency of some teams where the other players start relying on a superstar QB to make plays, and fall into a habit of essentially waiting for him to "save the day." Sometimes those same teams, when the superstar leaves, can actually improve because the rest of the team realizes they have to step into a more active and involved role because they do not have the superstar upon which to rely. I was explaining that I do not believe this was the case with JaMarcus at LSU because there were a number of games where other guys like Joe Addai and Keiland Williams and Dwayne Bowe (not to mention the defense, on occassion) would step up and make the plays needed when JaMarcus wasn't quite able to get it done himself.
The comment had absolutely nothing to do with racism, until you got ahold of it. Funny how EVERYTHING turns into racism once YOU get involved.
Posted on 4/30/09 at 12:55 pm to The Boat
quote:Really? Is that the point here? More top 10 teams on the road is the be all, end all? So if you play a #5 team on the road and 11 1-AA teams at home, and I play 12 games against #11-#25 teams, 7 of them on the road, then it's not even debatable to you that you had the tougher schedule?
What about in terms of extremely highly ranked teams played on the road?
Posted on 4/30/09 at 1:03 pm to TigerBait1127
quote:Wow, that's a lot of excuses packed into one post. And of course, Matt Flynn was the only LSU player on the field against Kentucky and Arkansas, right? I mean, otherwise someone might make an excuse that something other than Flynn might have had something to do with our losing.
2nd, 2 of the 3 picks weren't JR's fault and the 3rd hit his receiver.
Before the fumble, we had already scored twice but the refs (incorrectly) called them back. The ball never reached JaMarcus' hands, unless you think Helms is a liar.
we were moving the ball on them that game, but Chevis Jackson muffed a punt putting them in great field position
Of course, when we were blowing out top-rated teams, Flynn had zero to do with those . . .
I honestly cannot fathom how y'all think you sound any more rational than the Flynn side. You refuse to acknowlege that JaMarcus fricked up in a game where he had 3 picks and a fumble and we lost. How can you possibly expect anyone to take your arguments seriously when you can't even admit that JaMarcus was not always perfect in every single second he was at LSU? He fricked up in that Florida game. And it wasn't the only time. It happens, even to really, REALLY great QBs.
Posted on 4/30/09 at 1:05 pm to MC123
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IMHO we might not have beaten Tennessee with Matt Flynn at QB. Yes I am very serious.
Question: How many TDs did Tennessee allow that season. How many did our offense score in that game?
How many TDs did LSU score in 07? How many did our offense score in that game?
Answer those questions before you can prove that you are "very serious" or very clueless.
Posted on 4/30/09 at 1:11 pm to roygu
Im sorry but i completely have to disagree with this post, Flynn IMO was a better QB than russell, JR had an amazing arm, but hes dumb, he was great in college because even when he was late getting the ball out or missing a read, he had the arm strength to make the the throw, however flynn usually could hit his target when it was supposed to happen. Im not at all racist but i think just think Russell was all that great no matter what stats you throw out there.
Posted on 4/30/09 at 1:12 pm to TigerBait1127
quote:Wow, it is amazing how some of you are so desparate to diminish Flynn that you will throw the entire National Championship Team under the bus like that. One of the three National Championship teams in LSU history and you flat out say, they "didn't stand out at all"?
LSU didn't stand out at all,
Damn, you'll call us completely undeserving of our most recent National Championship just to try and make a point about Matt Flynn? Let it go, people. Why do you give so much of frick? Try to remember that you actually are FANS of the TEAM (LSU) that won that 2007 National Championship (by DEFINITELY standing out, btw) more than you are fans of JaMarcus or haters of Flynn . . . aren't you?
Posted on 4/30/09 at 2:41 pm to Hodson 4Heisman
quote:He does, in 03
J-mac would have a ring if it weren't for Jimbo Fisher, IMHO.
So miles had no say so in game planning, play calling etc.?
Posted on 4/30/09 at 2:44 pm to Tigerbait231
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Im sorry but i completely have to disagree with this post, Flynn IMO was a better QB than russell, JR had an amazing arm, but hes dumb, he was great in college because even when he was late getting the ball out or missing a read, he had the arm strength to make the the throw, however flynn usually could hit his target when it was supposed to happen. Im not at all racist but i think just think Russell was all that great no matter what stats you throw out there.
Joey, this is why TheDoc drops the race card so much.
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