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re: I still miss Jamarcus

Posted on 4/29/09 at 12:19 pm to
Posted by Gugich22
Who Dat Nation
Member since Jan 2006
27806 posts
Posted on 4/29/09 at 12:19 pm to
Based on what? Compare their numbers their junior years. JR had a better season.

Why is it silly to compare them? Based on their pro careers?
Posted by mlttiger
Member since Feb 2009
3974 posts
Posted on 4/29/09 at 12:20 pm to
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I thought they were both great and I'd gladly have either back




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Posted by mlttiger
Member since Feb 2009
3974 posts
Posted on 4/29/09 at 12:20 pm to
i'm not going to sit here and argue who is a better qb, Peyton or JaMarcus
Posted by Gugich22
Who Dat Nation
Member since Jan 2006
27806 posts
Posted on 4/29/09 at 12:38 pm to
i'm not asking you to say whose a better QB because Peyton Manning is one of the best QBs to ever play the game.


You said it's silly to compare their college careers...yet it's funny because JR had a better junior season than Peyton. So, in reality, it's not silly to compare at least that one season.
Posted by mlttiger
Member since Feb 2009
3974 posts
Posted on 4/29/09 at 12:41 pm to
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You said it's silly to compare their college careers...


When did I say college????????

I have actually said that comparing college stats is pointless b/c college stats don't mean you are a good qb
Posted by bdsco337
Member since Sep 2008
2292 posts
Posted on 4/29/09 at 12:56 pm to
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People that hate on JL are idiots. He wasn't ready and that wasn't his fault hate on RP first or Cecil Collins or Derrick Odom or Jarvis Jones.


OMG you are so fricking right. Greatest post ever!!!
Posted by King Joey
Just south of the DC/US border
Member since Mar 2004
12744 posts
Posted on 4/29/09 at 1:06 pm to
quote:

What happens alot of the time with a great QB. is the rest of the team expects the QB to win the game and basically wait for them to do it.
I agree that this occurs, but I really don't believe that happened with JaMarcus here at LSU. There were too many games where others pulled up the slack to win games where JaMarcus was not doing it himself. The only thing that kept JaMarcus from winning a National Championship was bullshite officials at Auburn. The same guys that robbed Florida at Auburn that year robbed us as well. They also combined to deprive the SEC of the greatest showcase game in conference history, which would have been the rematch that year between #1 undefeated Florida and #2 or #3 11-1 LSU in the SEC Championship Game for the SEC Title and a spot in the National Championship Game.

JaMarcus did not make every play as some insist. And he was not stupid or lacking in leadership as some insist. And there are plenty of reasons besides racism to disagree about him. But any racist will automatically assume racism in others, and see it far more often than it occurs. That is the lesson history has taught us in all places and with all peoples; none see evil in others quite so quickly as those who carry it within themselves.

JaMarcus is probably the best QB LSU has ever had. Flynn was a great QB who won a National Championship. That is something that he will always have over JaMarcus, and even if it is pure luck that is completely irrelevant. Because the most important rule to remember about sports is that shite happens and luck counts.

Posted by BT
North La
Member since Aug 2008
9766 posts
Posted on 4/29/09 at 1:49 pm to
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there were a TON of

whatever.

quote:

JL and CG? leave it to you to bring jarrett lee into a jamarcus thread.


RS was brought into the jamrcus thread
Posted by BT
North La
Member since Aug 2008
9766 posts
Posted on 4/29/09 at 1:54 pm to
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TheDoc, you are a laugh riot. First you insist that no one could possibly think Flynn was better than JaMarcus except due to racism, and now there's never been anyone in Tiger Stadium that didn't like white players. The world you imagine that you live in boggles the mind.


He is the biggest shite stirrer on this board when it comes to skin color of our football players.
Posted by TheDoc
doc is no more
Member since Dec 2005
99297 posts
Posted on 4/29/09 at 2:01 pm to
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but I really don't believe that happened with JaMarcus here at LSU


yeah, you know what? you are absolutely correct.

there was NEVER ANY racist remarks hurled at the "dumb" black QB at LSU.

good lord, you are fricking naive.
Posted by TheDoc
doc is no more
Member since Dec 2005
99297 posts
Posted on 4/29/09 at 2:04 pm to
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He is the biggest shite stirrer on this board when it comes to skin color of our football players


well, I am guilty of the shite stirring.

but I call a spade a spade.

some LSU fans embarass the hell out of me.
Posted by tduecen
Member since Nov 2006
161246 posts
Posted on 4/29/09 at 2:12 pm to
Still trying to figure what makes Mauck/Flynn better than Russell to some LSU fans. Outside of him winning a National Title?

Don't give me that smart shite because Russell had less turnovers than Flynn.
Jamarcus also won Awards and honors

* Columbus Touchdown Club SEC Player of the Year (2005)
* 4x SEC Offensive Player of the Week (1 in 2005, 3 in 2006)
* First-team All-SEC by the Associated Press and SEC coaches (2006)
* Manning Award (2006)
* Davey O'Brien Award semifinalist (2006)


Plus did Russell not beat out Flynn in 06 in head to head competition? So outside of winning a NC (which btw took more luck from computers than anything Flynn did on field) what makes Flynn better?
Posted by ScootiniTiger
New Orleans
Member since Mar 2007
3251 posts
Posted on 4/29/09 at 4:17 pm to
Not me. Too big and slow, (slow in more ways than one). I liked him though and always felt comfortable with him except when time was running out.
Posted by Books
BR
Member since Jun 2005
11174 posts
Posted on 4/29/09 at 4:20 pm to
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except when time was running out.
Like '05 vs ASU at ASU? Or '05 Bama at Bama? Or '06 vs Tenn at Tenn?

Posted by TheDoc
doc is no more
Member since Dec 2005
99297 posts
Posted on 4/29/09 at 4:31 pm to
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(slow in more ways than one)


whoops... there's another one

black QB = dumb

white QB = smart
Posted by BT
North La
Member since Aug 2008
9766 posts
Posted on 4/29/09 at 4:33 pm to
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Plus did Russell not beat out Flynn in 06 in head to head competition? So outside of winning a NC (which btw took more luck from computers than anything Flynn did on field) what makes Flynn better?


mainly b/c 10 yrs from nobody will remember or care about the personal awards that JR(or any player for that matter) won, however MF will always be known as the starting qb for the 2007 NC football team.
This post was edited on 4/29/09 at 4:35 pm
Posted by tmart2912
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2007
580 posts
Posted on 4/29/09 at 4:43 pm to
quote:

Because two losses doesn't equal two losses?


The difference was that when Flynn was the qb we won all the big games.
Posted by mlttiger
Member since Feb 2009
3974 posts
Posted on 4/29/09 at 4:46 pm to
Posted by BradleyJ33
Brandon, MS
Member since Aug 2006
1307 posts
Posted on 4/29/09 at 4:46 pm to
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black QB = dumb


You know, there are dumb black people, just like there are dumb white people...nobody said he was dumb just b/c he was black, but being black doesn't exclude him from being dumb either...
Posted by Sammich
Member since Apr 2004
9375 posts
Posted on 4/29/09 at 4:50 pm to
quote:

whoops... there's another one

black QB = dumb

white QB = smart


TheDoc = racist
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