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re: If naz reid is worth 300k
Posted on 4/30/19 at 11:00 pm to Madking
Posted on 4/30/19 at 11:00 pm to Madking
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Naz Reid- 13.6ppg 7.2 rebounds per game
Stromile Swift- 13.4ppg 7.0 rebounds per game
Sorry Naz was better
Stromile averaged 16.2 ppg, 8.2 rbpg, 2.8 blocks per game and 1.5 steals per game his sophomore year. He only played in half the season his freshman year because he was academically ineligible. He was SEC POY and a 2nd team all-american. Naz was very good but he was not as good in college as Stromile, although I do think Naz has more raw talent than Stromile and can shoot better than Stromile ever could. But Stro's post-game and defense were much better than Reid, in college. If Reid can put it together, he has the potential to be a better pro than Stromile.
This post was edited on 4/30/19 at 11:10 pm
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Posted on 4/30/19 at 11:24 pm to luciouslou
When he learns to dribble without coughing it up maybe...
Posted on 4/30/19 at 11:42 pm to luciouslou
Dick didn’t pay ZION
Posted on 5/1/19 at 12:07 am to lsufball19
I compared their entire college careers. Naz didn’t play as a sophomore so why are you comparing a sophomore to a freshman?
This post was edited on 5/1/19 at 12:07 am
Posted on 5/1/19 at 12:08 am to GeorgeTheGreek
Sorry Naz was more productive than Stro in college. Dems just the facts.
Posted on 5/1/19 at 12:10 am to Madking
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I compared their entire college careers.
I know what you did
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Naz didn’t play as a sophomore so why are you comparing a sophomore to a freshman?
I used their only full seasons they played
Posted on 5/1/19 at 12:15 am to lsufball19
You used Stromiles best season to Naz freshman season. That’s what you did. Is it Naz’s fault Stromile couldn’t make good enough grades to play his entire freshman year? Why not use their entire careers if you believe Stros freshman season comparison is unfair? Or use the first 16 games of Naz season to compare to Stromiles freshman year? What’s unfair is taking a guy a year older in that stage of development and experience in college and use that big jump against an 18/19 year old learning to play at that level.
This post was edited on 5/1/19 at 12:20 am
Posted on 5/1/19 at 12:21 am to Madking
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You used Stromiles best season to Naz freshman season
I used Stromiles only full season to Naz Reid's only full season.
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Is it Naz’s fault Stromile couldn’t make good enough grades to play his entire freshman year?
did I say it was?
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Why not use their entire careers if you believe Stros freshman season comparison is unfair?
Why would you ignore that Stromile was SEC POY and an AA? Why would you ignore their defensive numbers (that's a big reason why Stromile as drafted #2)?
Posted on 5/1/19 at 12:28 am to lsufball19
I’m not ignoring that and just because the games were more equal in a given season doesn’t mean it’s an equal comparison. The POTY award and AA is completely irrelevant because he did this in a separate season. Think about it was Shaq not a completely different player from his freshman to Sophmore season? That’s a players biggest jump in basketball. Comparing a sophmore to a freshman isn’t fair at all. What’s wrong with using their entire careers besides the fact it wouldn’t go in your favor? And what’s wrong with using Naz first 16 games to compare with Stros? Why are you going out of your way to push an unfair comparison?
This post was edited on 5/1/19 at 12:29 am
Posted on 5/1/19 at 12:36 am to luciouslou
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How much did Zion get at Duke? Serious question.
This isn’t going to work in court, Wade will be federally indicted.
Posted on 5/1/19 at 12:38 am to Tunasntigers92
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Wade will be federally indicted.
Ok, I'll bite.... for what reason?This post was edited on 5/1/19 at 12:42 am
Posted on 5/1/19 at 12:38 am to Madking
because Stromile wasn't even eligible to play with the team until 2nd semester. He wasn't in game shape and was thrown out there at the start of SEC play. He played minimal minutes as a result his freshman year (8 min fewer per game than Reid). If you look at their numbers per 40 min for their careers, their ppg and rpg are almost identical. For me, I think the biggest separating factor is Stro was an elite defender, Reid was not.
I'm not pushing an unfair comparison. Again, you provided one angle to compare their ppg and rpg over their both very short careers. I provided additional context to explain why I personally think Stromile was a better college player. These are both are opinions of ours. There is no emphatically right or wrong answer. And like I said, I do think Reid has more raw talent than Stromile and has the potential to be a better pro if he can fix the holes in his game.
I'm not pushing an unfair comparison. Again, you provided one angle to compare their ppg and rpg over their both very short careers. I provided additional context to explain why I personally think Stromile was a better college player. These are both are opinions of ours. There is no emphatically right or wrong answer. And like I said, I do think Reid has more raw talent than Stromile and has the potential to be a better pro if he can fix the holes in his game.
This post was edited on 5/1/19 at 12:39 am
Posted on 5/1/19 at 12:53 am to lsufball19
Hear me out on this and see if you’ll agree. Let’s look at our latest 5 star big men’s jump in production from freshman to soph season then see if you’d agree it’s not fair to compare one players soph season to another’s freshman year.
Stromile Swift- fresh: 7.6ppg 4.3rpg, soph: 16.2ppg 8.2rpg difference 8.6ppg 3.9rpg
Brandon Bass- Fr: 12.8ppg 7.4rpg, So: 17.3ppg 9.1rpg diff- 4.5ppg 1.7rpg
Big Baby- Fr: 13.5ppg 8.8rpg, So: 18.6ppg 9.7rpg diff- 5.1ppg 0.9rpg
Johnny O- Fr: 8.5ppg 6.7rpg So: 13.6ppg 8.7rpg diff- 5.1ppg 2.0rpg
Jordan Mickey- Fr: 12.8ppg 7.9rpg, So: 15.4ppg 9.9rpg diff- 2.6ppg 2.0rpg
Jarrell Martin- Fr: 10.3ppg 4.6rpg, So: 16.9ppg 9.2rpg, diff- 6.6ppg 4.6rpg
Now that’s an average jump of 5.4ppg and 2.5rpg, if you applied the averages to Naz his sophmore season averages would be 19ppg and 9.7rpg, if you applied the lowest jump his averages would be 16.2ppg and 8.1rpg. The jump for an 18 year old his first year from home and first year playing at a much higher level is the biggest cumulative jump in competition he’ll ever see, even bigger than from college to the NBA. . A players second year is much more comfortable when life and the game slows down so much more than any other year and you can clearly see it in production. This is the reason I think using a players soph year compared to another’s fresh year isn’t fair. I’m not trying to say one was better than the other I specifically used the term “production”. I did use better in one of my post but that was a mistake.
Stromile Swift- fresh: 7.6ppg 4.3rpg, soph: 16.2ppg 8.2rpg difference 8.6ppg 3.9rpg
Brandon Bass- Fr: 12.8ppg 7.4rpg, So: 17.3ppg 9.1rpg diff- 4.5ppg 1.7rpg
Big Baby- Fr: 13.5ppg 8.8rpg, So: 18.6ppg 9.7rpg diff- 5.1ppg 0.9rpg
Johnny O- Fr: 8.5ppg 6.7rpg So: 13.6ppg 8.7rpg diff- 5.1ppg 2.0rpg
Jordan Mickey- Fr: 12.8ppg 7.9rpg, So: 15.4ppg 9.9rpg diff- 2.6ppg 2.0rpg
Jarrell Martin- Fr: 10.3ppg 4.6rpg, So: 16.9ppg 9.2rpg, diff- 6.6ppg 4.6rpg
Now that’s an average jump of 5.4ppg and 2.5rpg, if you applied the averages to Naz his sophmore season averages would be 19ppg and 9.7rpg, if you applied the lowest jump his averages would be 16.2ppg and 8.1rpg. The jump for an 18 year old his first year from home and first year playing at a much higher level is the biggest cumulative jump in competition he’ll ever see, even bigger than from college to the NBA. . A players second year is much more comfortable when life and the game slows down so much more than any other year and you can clearly see it in production. This is the reason I think using a players soph year compared to another’s fresh year isn’t fair. I’m not trying to say one was better than the other I specifically used the term “production”. I did use better in one of my post but that was a mistake.
This post was edited on 5/1/19 at 1:04 am
Posted on 5/1/19 at 8:00 am to luciouslou
If he truly got 300K to play 1 year here, then he needs to extend his contract.
Posted on 5/1/19 at 9:31 am to luciouslou
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How much did Zion get at Duke? Serious question.
I say minimum 1 million.
Well that $900k house didn't buy itself.
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