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re: Jefferson should transfer
Posted on 11/10/08 at 10:26 am to Prominentwon
Posted on 11/10/08 at 10:26 am to Prominentwon
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these are the type of posters that I love
No kidding ... where do these rantards come from?
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Posted on 11/10/08 at 10:30 am to nycajun
Can someone explain why this post is so absurd? The whole wanting him to transfer think is absurd, I agree. But the meat of the argument is about why JJ hasn't seen the field more. I think it's totally justified. Obviously Lee is playing extremely poorly (to put it nicely). It would be hard to do worse. If JJ is that "not ready" then why did we burn his RS? That is a completely justifiable question.
Instead of just saying how stupid the post is and how dumb the "rantards" are, elaborate.
Instead of just saying how stupid the post is and how dumb the "rantards" are, elaborate.
Posted on 11/10/08 at 10:36 am to Billy Ray Valentine
coaches are sending a message to JJ and recruits:
no matter how much lee screws up, we're still gonna play him. and we will burn your redshirt in the process.
no matter how much lee screws up, we're still gonna play him. and we will burn your redshirt in the process.
Posted on 11/10/08 at 10:41 am to Toula
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LSU 2009--first 4 QB system in history
"We'll play who ever has the hot hand. You know, QB by committee. I have liked the preparation and feel that any of them gives us a chance at victory." - Les Miles
Posted on 11/10/08 at 10:41 am to toupra1
quote:You should stop posting.
Jefferson should transfer
Posted on 11/10/08 at 10:41 am to Billy Ray Valentine
The development of a quality quarterback at a talent-rich school like LSU is done over time, with a kid usually not getting a starting slot until his junior (or sophomore, if he is a super-talent) year. RP screwed the sequencing up royally. Lee is considered by the coaching staff to be the more developed of the 2 at this point (Hatch was there to give Lee some cushion until he got injured) and in the runup to the 'Bama game (i.e., Tulane) the rational choice was to give him as much playing time as possible. I suspect the coaches think JJ isn't ready for prime time, and until Hatch went down, they were planning to redshirt him. Maybe Lee won't mature, and if that is the case we will see lots more of JJ next season. I, for one, think Lee will turn into a quality QB, and we will be back in sequence by the start of next season. To suggest that a true freshman, who has a shot at the starting job next year and the year after, at worst, should transfer because he isn't ready to play in tough SEC games strikes me as, well, absurd.
Posted on 11/10/08 at 10:42 am to Tiger n Chains
quote:Cocodrie and "da Parish".
No kidding ... where do these rantards come from?
Posted on 11/10/08 at 10:43 am to CharlesLSU
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"We'll play who ever has the hot hand. You know, QB by committee. I have liked the preparation and feel that any of them gives us a chance at victory." - Les Miles
that would be insane.
wouldn't it be 5 QB's?
Posted on 11/10/08 at 10:46 am to ellis1975
quote:Its' simple, to see if he was a gamer. RP didn't know much of hte playbook either, but when he went out there, he looked like an SEC QB and made plays with his talent alone. Miles didn't put JJ out there to "burn his RS" for no reason, it was a test to see if he could cut it. Maybe he expressed doubt after that series with Tulane, who knows?
Simply put, if JJ is not ready, I'm sure they have known this all along. Why did they waste his RS?
Maybe because the D allowed Tulane to stay in the game, and the offense sputtered that eliminated JJ from getting another shot, who knows?
The game situation dictated what happened to JJ's playing time, not any so called "burning" by Miles and Crowton.
Posted on 11/10/08 at 10:51 am to ellis1975
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Him transferring would not be the best thing for LSU but it would be the best thing for him. I would not be mad because I feel kids should go where they are NEEDED and not where they are WANTED.
Not to start to throw stones in a glass house, but if people feel this way about the players, why does this not apply to the coaches?
Saban thought the best thing for his family was taking a shot at the pro job. He felt it would be the best thing for him.
He was wrong. He wanted to coach again in college, and since LSU had a coach, he went to another great opportunity for him. He went to where he was wanted both wanted and needed.
If the fanbase of LSU has no problems with kids transferring to do what is best for them (which they shouldn't), then why do some of them have problems with coaches doing it? This is their job and they have a life as well.
Posted on 11/10/08 at 10:59 am to toupra1
Ok, first 9 games at lsu, as a true freshman, before Jordan has a chance to figure out the offense, he should transfer. Thats like saying I should quite my job on the first day because the room temperature in the building is not to my liking.
Posted on 11/10/08 at 11:03 am to roscoethetiger
Hey Roscoe, honest question. Do you ever see JJ starting here? If so when and for how long?
Posted on 11/10/08 at 11:09 am to Tiger_n_ATL
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Miles didn't put JJ out there to "burn his RS" for no reason, it was a test to see if he could cut it
if you (or Miles) can tell after a couple run options & hand offs whether anyone can cut it, then I'm definitely not in your league so I need to go back to just cheering and stop trying to analyze.
Posted on 11/10/08 at 11:11 am to Tiger_n_ATL
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The game situation dictated what happened to JJ's playing time, not any so called "burning" by Miles and Crowton
spin it any way you'd like, but the fact is that his rs has been burned for a handful of meaningless plays
Posted on 11/10/08 at 11:16 am to nycajun
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In the pantheon of absurd posts (a distinguished category on this board), this one might take center stage.
No, but it's in the top f'ing 10. My favorite is the 9,476th post asking why we haven't offered Christine Michael.
Posted on 11/10/08 at 11:16 am to nycajun
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To suggest that a true freshman, who has a shot at the starting job next year and the year after, at worst, should transfer because he isn't ready to play in tough SEC games strikes me as, well, absurd.
We are 9 games into the season and the kid gets no playing time in the "Bama game, not even 1 snap, after Lee had a performance like that. Not to mention the prior game where Lee went 8-20 for 99 yds 1TD 1INT w/ the pick being a pick6. After what will probably end up being the worst 2 games of Lee's college career, JJ can't get a single snap in either game.
You believe that he will HONESTLY get a shot at starting next year? This kid will see the most time of his career here next year. Not saying that will be much but it will be the most. Shep will see the field in some fashion as well. By Sheps 2nd yr, he will garnish more PT than JJ. So when will JJ start?
You honestly think that Miles believes in Lee as much as he does and that he will give JJ a honest opportunity to start next year? You have you own opinion I guess. I just don't see a guy with absolutely no experience STARTING over a QB that has started most of this season.
Let me be clear. In no post have I EVER stated JJ should START. I think the kid should be given an opportunity at some PT while Lee is starting. Give a series here and there. JJ probably won't ever start unless its due to injury.
Posted on 11/10/08 at 11:17 am to Billy Ray Valentine
BRV, did you ever fart in the tub to make a jacuzzi when you were a kid? 
Posted on 11/10/08 at 11:20 am to ffishstik
The bottom line is He should have played more in the Tulane game once it was in hand, give the kid a chance to show what he can do In a game situation!
Posted on 11/10/08 at 11:22 am to ellis1975
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We are 9 games into the season and the kid gets no playing time in the "Bama game, not even 1 snap, after Lee had a performance like that. Not to mention the prior game where Lee went 8-20 for 99 yds 1TD 1INT w/ the pick being a pick6.
He got no playing time in the 'Bama game because he wasn't ready for prime time. Remember, until after the end of the UGA game, when Hatch's injury was diagnosed, JJ was headed for redshirt. Then in the Tulane game it was get Lee as ready as possible. He didn't have a good game, but he got all the reps, and, in my humble opinion, it showed in the 'Bama game. Maybe it was because I was in the stadium and didn't have the benefit of the CBS announcers' predetermined script being overlayed on the action, but I didn't think Lee's performance was all that bad. Sure, he made some mistakes, which tend to be amplified in that kind of game, but overall, he gave us a better chance to win than he has done in any other game, he made some good throws and a couple of great ones. Would a mature Ryan Perriloux have been better? Sure. Would a totally inexperienced Jefferson? I seriously doubt it.
Posted on 11/10/08 at 11:24 am to ellis1975
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If he plays like shite, so what! Lee is playing like shite and he's been here longer AND knows the play-book.
My philosophy exactly. If you're going to have a freshman out there making mistakes, why not go with the more athletic of the two? JJ's sheer athleticism might help to eliminate some of the mistakes JL is making.
The redshirt is off this kid. See what he can do in a game situation.
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