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re: Jefferson vs. Lee Inside the Numbers *Updated*
Posted on 10/6/10 at 4:34 pm to just me
Posted on 10/6/10 at 4:34 pm to just me
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And getting a delay of game penalty on 4th down which backed LSU up and caused LSU to waste a very valuable timeout was not "professional."
Taking the time out was the right position. He saw something on the field he didn't like and it gave the coaches an opportunity to find the right play.
We were in scoring position with plenty of time. The clock didn't become an issue until we decided it would be great to throw in the non throwing running QB in at the goal line with no time outs and call a running play.
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Posted on 10/6/10 at 4:34 pm to just me
Jordan Jefferson's 2010 has been disgusting, we need a spark, and its obvious JJ isnt the answer. I'm not saying Lee is the answer, but he has shined in the few shots he has been given. He deserves a start.
This:
46/89 449yds 51.7cmp% 2tds 6int
Over a 5 game span will not cut it
This:
46/89 449yds 51.7cmp% 2tds 6int
Over a 5 game span will not cut it
Posted on 10/6/10 at 4:35 pm to just me
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LSU wasn't trying to kill the clock. LSU was behind by four points.
Yes. However, by scoring with 3 minutes or 2 minutes left on the clock, you leave the other team with opportunity. Ever wonder why teams when marching down the field try to minimize the time they leave on the clock...even for game winning drives?
To prevent the other team from having an opportunity for the same thing.
Posted on 10/6/10 at 4:35 pm to SCLSUMuddogs
quote:
This:
46/89 449yds 51.7cmp% 2tds 6int
Over a 5 game span will not cut it
It's not fair, but if you parsed Lee's stats as is over a 5 game span it would be 0 TDs and 5 picks with a better yardage and %.
Posted on 10/6/10 at 4:35 pm to Powerman
quote:The front seven has to worry about two running weapons with Jefferson at QB.
So the credit goes to Ridley and the offensive line. JJ doesn't get credit for Ridley's success. That's stupid.
LSU got 7.0 yards per carry with Jefferson at QB.
LSU got under 2.0 yards per carry with Lee at QB.
Posted on 10/6/10 at 4:37 pm to just me
quote:well it's not like the defense is respecting JJ's passing ability
JJ doesn't get credit for Ridley's success. That's stupid.
Posted on 10/6/10 at 4:37 pm to Powerman
quote:I can't believe a person honestly believes this. He got flagged for delay of game, and then couldn't get a play in, and then called timeout. It wasn't like the team was at the line and ready to go and he saw a new wrinkle. It was chaos.
Taking the time out was the right position. He saw something on the field he didn't like and it gave the coaches an opportunity to find the right play.
Lee desrves a lot of credit for the final drive, but he absolutely wasted our final timeout AFTER A DELAY OF GAME. It was a dreadful mistake.
Posted on 10/6/10 at 4:37 pm to CptBengal
quote:Then he sure didn't use that time very efficiently.
Uhhhh wrong. the drive started with 5:Something
on the clock.
That's alot of time.
Posted on 10/6/10 at 4:38 pm to OBUDan
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It's not fair, but if you parsed Lee's stats as is over a 5 game span it would be 0 TDs and 5 picks with a better yardage and %.
So you'd like to use massively extrapolated data to compare against real world performance?
really? Ever here of a term called "bias" used in data analysis?
Posted on 10/6/10 at 4:38 pm to OBUDan
Not sure if this has been mentioned yet... but JJ should be 3rd string b/c of his attitude right now.
JL should start. When we cant to do some wildcat type things. Sheppard should take the snaps...He's a better runner than JJ.
JL should start. When we cant to do some wildcat type things. Sheppard should take the snaps...He's a better runner than JJ.
Posted on 10/6/10 at 4:38 pm to just me
quote:
Then he sure didn't use that time very efficiently.
Wait, he calls the plays?
Posted on 10/6/10 at 4:40 pm to just me
quote:
just me
Damn dude your shite is getting old......can you pack up and land wherever Miles does when he leaves???
Posted on 10/6/10 at 4:40 pm to CptBengal
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CptBengal
Calm down, it was a joke.
Posted on 10/6/10 at 4:40 pm to OBUDan
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I'm just saying you will almost never see a 16 play drive
You also wont see a one-play scoring drive often. Dont know why you, supposed objective presenter of facts, would begin to wonder around in theoretical land.
quote:
But it doesn't make JJ's contributions worthless
I never said it did either. I'm just trying to add the actual human eye for detail to an otherwise misleading robotic spewing of stats. I think Lee needs to start but I'm aware that Jefferson can do positive things.
JJ's presence spreads the D out on runs for sure. The problem is that he cannot put together scoring drives often enough.
As an aside, you should check out the rushing numbers for the LSU offense VS Vandy when Lee was in vs JJ. Do the avg per play for rushing and tell me what you think. Results will be better under Lee overall, more of the time.
Posted on 10/6/10 at 4:42 pm to Powerman
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Taking the time out was the right position. He saw something on the field he didn't like and it gave the coaches an opportunity to find the right play.
We might have called timeout because we were going with the same play they had planned for 4th and 9, but now it was 4th and 14 and the routes were probably coming up well short.
As soon as they called that timeout, time became a bigger issue...
Posted on 10/6/10 at 4:42 pm to OBUDan
quote:
Calm down, it was a joke.
I got a better one. If we parse out JJ's passing performance from UT over 5 games we get:
15 of 60
150 yards
0 tds
10 ints
Now that is a joke.
Posted on 10/6/10 at 4:42 pm to Ebbandflow
quote:One play drives are FAR more common than 16 play drives.
You also wont see a one-play scoring drive often
Posted on 10/6/10 at 4:43 pm to OBUDan
It's a little bit different when Lee has only played half of a game...and in his less than one start he has 206 passing yards to JJ's 449. Thats a little sad man. JJ has just not performed and has taken no blame for anything. He just says we're 4-0, or i played well(after the tennessee game). His attitude of not needing to improve worries me more than his poor performance
Posted on 10/6/10 at 4:44 pm to LSUdm21
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All I know is when we needed big time 3rd and 4th down pick ups Lee delivered
Posted on 10/6/10 at 4:44 pm to CptBengal
quote:
Yes. However, by scoring with 3 minutes or 2 minutes left on the clock, you leave the other team with opportunity. Ever wonder why teams when marching down the field try to minimize the time they leave on the clock...even for game winning drives?
To prevent the other team from having an opportunity for the same thing.
We're not one of those teams though. We score any way we can with many prayers involved.
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