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re: JJ, Miles, and Mett - again
Posted on 4/21/11 at 9:00 am to Icansee4miles
Posted on 4/21/11 at 9:00 am to Icansee4miles
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However, in my judgment, it vastly underestimates how horrible a QB Jordan Jefferson is. If the 13 games of 2010 (in which he threw 7 TD passes and barely averaged 100 yards a game passing despite having three 5 star players at WR) did not convince you, go watch the spring game again. He was something like 4 of 14 in a situation in which he commanded the starting unit against our current 2nd and 3rd teamers. He missed wide open receivers. Wide open. And Shep and Ware each made nice, difficult catches that stopped a travesty of a quarterbacking performance from turning into an abortion of QB play.
He is so bad that if you gave me the option of picking an FBS QB out of the hat or JJ with all of his experience, I'd be willing to take the worst rated of three names that I pull and guarantee you that even still, he'd be a better QB than JJ.
So when we compare him to Mett, who admittedly hasn't played an SEC game but who has already outperformed two SEC starters in spring games and who led his JUCO team to a championship game and who has shown an ability to throw lots of TD passes and shockingly few interceptions, it seems to me that maybe Les ought to reconsider his QB competition and actually make it a real one.
If #9 is our starter v. Oregon, we will either lose the game or win it by the skin of our teeth.
ill double that
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Posted on 4/21/11 at 9:00 am to Icansee4miles
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This post was edited on 4/21/11 at 9:01 am
Posted on 4/21/11 at 9:06 am to Hitchcock
quote:I laugh at this statement every single time someone types it
SEC speed
Posted on 4/21/11 at 9:11 am to tduecen
You don't believe that the SEC has superior athletes?
Posted on 4/21/11 at 9:15 am to BeeFense5
quote:
You don't believe that the SEC has superior athletes?
faster lineman...
the nfl has plenty of players from other conferences...
the sec just has more then its fair share of skill players....and have way better and faster lineman...thats where the games are won...in the trenches...
Posted on 4/21/11 at 9:16 am to BeeFense5
quote:
You don't believe that the SEC has superior athletes?
faster lineman...
the nfl has plenty of players from other conferences...
the sec just has more then its fair share of skill players....and have way better and faster lineman...thats where the games are won...in the trenches...
Posted on 4/21/11 at 9:19 am to TigerFan55555
I agree with that.
Posted on 4/21/11 at 9:22 am to BeeFense5
quote:Does the SEC have superior athletes? No more than many other conferences... So many make a huge deal out of "SEC" speed like no new player has ever come in and put up good/great stats against SEC competition.
You don't believe that the SEC has superior athletes?
Then they act like Mett hasn't gone up against an SEC defense before. Has he played in live games? No, but what is the difference between coming in during the 4th quarter and throwing ball 8 times and handing off the rest of the time? Does that mean he is experienced? he was battling at Georgia for a starting spot going against their 1st and 2nd string defense (a defense that finished #23 last year) and then he comes to LSU and he has been going against out 2nd and 3rd string. So he has seen "SEC" speed already at two very different schools.
He played in JUCO last year which is a higher grade of football than practice squad or high school yet not BCS conference football yet still higher than many wanna give it credit for. He has had to break down film, he has had to lead an offense, he has worked a two minute drill, he has done more in past year than a player who would have been red-shirted and then sat as the #3 QB the year before.
This post was edited on 4/21/11 at 9:33 am
Posted on 4/21/11 at 9:26 am to RogerTheShrubber
As long as Les is the coach at LSU JJ will play qb unless he gets injured. Mile simply loves this kid no matter how bad he is! 
Posted on 4/21/11 at 9:30 am to cajunjj
Posted on 4/21/11 at 9:32 am to Rudy40
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I mean if JJ plays only with the ones against the two's and threes and Mett only with two's and threes would you call that an open competition?
yes, it is an open competition, but the starter is still the starter until someone knocks him off. Which is the way it should be. Miles never said that he will place all guys at 1a, 1b, 1c and see who comes out on top...
I would love to see Mett emerge as the starter, but unless JJ really screws up, they'll likely want to see what Mett does on the field, against a real opponent before handing him the job.
Posted on 4/21/11 at 10:17 am to JJ27
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The problem is on this board if you question the openness of the competition you're a conspiracy theorist.
Perhaps it more like some think if Mett isn't named the starting QB, then, there couldn't have been any real competition.
Isn't that being a "conspiracy theorist" as well?
I don't know why anyone thought Mett would walk in and be handed the keys to the LSU football car to begin with and I equally don't understand what's the big deal with the Mett progression at LSU to this point in time.
It's very possible Mett is/will be far better served, long term, to come into the Oregon as a back-up.
quote:
The JJ supporters defend Miles as if he is infallible
I'm a LSU supporter and I don't know anyone who sees LM as "infallible", but I will take his call over anyone here, including myself, cause his calls are the ones which have led to four 11 win seasons in 6 years and mine, although legend like to me, haven't led to squat.
Posted on 4/21/11 at 10:27 am to ForeLSU
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but the starter is still the starter until someone knocks him off. Which is the way it should be. Miles never said that he will place all guys at 1a, 1b, 1c and see who comes out on top...
what?
then what is the metric for dethroning your king, JJ?
Does he have to throw 3 straight picks in the Oregon game? Or will you blame that on someone else too?
Posted on 4/21/11 at 10:43 am to CptBengal
quote:
Perhaps it more like some think if Mett isn't named the starting QB, then, there couldn't have been any real competition.
Not at all in my opinion Mett would win an open competition but I could see it possibly not happening.
For it to be a fair evaluation I think any reasonable person would have to admit that the variables need to be similiar. With Jefferson practicing exclusively with the ones against the twos and threes and Mett with the twos and threes against the ones that is not the case. Again I have heard that from reports as well as three different people from the Gridiron Club who watched the pre spring game scrimage and that is what occurred at the spring game. With JJ being able to sit back in the pocket and Mett having to dodge and move versus the ones how can it be a fair comparison?
Posted on 4/21/11 at 10:54 am to Stewie Griffin
that is as spot on as the statement that Jessica Alba is hot. Perfectly stated.
Posted on 4/21/11 at 10:56 am to BayouBlitz
quote:
another ignorant opinion piece about Miles/JJ.
your opinion is inversely proportional to wisdom
Posted on 4/21/11 at 11:00 am to Rudy40
Miles is doing the right thing. we were a top 10 team in the nation last year. THERE IS ABSOLUTELY ON REASON METT SHOULD GET AN ADVANTAGE OVER JL.
so if you want "OPEN COMPETITION", then jj, jl, and mett (in that order) would get equal time with the first team. no of them would get enough reps to be effective under that circumstanc.
by the way if qb is open competition then rb should be also. lets get ford, ware, blue, gore, hilliard the same reps with the ones. lets get boone, wright, etc the same reps.
wait a minute, who the hell is the first team if we have the rant's definition of "open competition" everywhere.
MILES KNOWS WHAT HE IS DOING.
so if you want "OPEN COMPETITION", then jj, jl, and mett (in that order) would get equal time with the first team. no of them would get enough reps to be effective under that circumstanc.
by the way if qb is open competition then rb should be also. lets get ford, ware, blue, gore, hilliard the same reps with the ones. lets get boone, wright, etc the same reps.
wait a minute, who the hell is the first team if we have the rant's definition of "open competition" everywhere.
MILES KNOWS WHAT HE IS DOING.
Posted on 4/21/11 at 11:11 am to Larry Hollins
quote:
Miles is doing the right thing. we were a top 10 team in the nation last year. THERE IS ABSOLUTELY ON REASON METT SHOULD GET AN ADVANTAGE OVER JL.
Terrible logic. Just pathetic. What a simpleton fool you are.
Posted on 4/21/11 at 11:25 am to Larry Hollins
quote:Lets be fair, neither JJ or Lee has been effective in the past either. They have both had bright spots but both have been rather poor in the past. Maybe an "open" competition is what they need to step up their game and focus.
no of them would get enough reps to be effective under that circumstanc.
Posted on 4/21/11 at 11:50 am to Lonnie4LSU
quote:BOOM
Perhaps it more like some think if Mett isn't named the starting QB, then, there couldn't have been any real competition.
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