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re: Les Miles era at LSU
Posted on 9/27/11 at 10:07 am to SouthOfSouth
Posted on 9/27/11 at 10:07 am to SouthOfSouth
quote:
Winning w/ Sabans players
I respect LM but the championships were on Saban's recruits. Not saying LM hasn't recruited greatly, because he has, but he still hasn't won that NC solely on his own terms. This year I think he does!
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Posted on 9/27/11 at 10:07 am to mule74
rp wouldn't have saved that atrocious '08 defense. offense wasn't the problem that year, even with lee's int problem
Posted on 9/27/11 at 10:09 am to Cameron Cooke
quote:a repeat of one of the dumbest arguments ever made on these boards. saban had been gone for 3 full seasons when miles won the championship. miles has proven he can recruit. it doesn't matter that saban recruited SOME of those players to lsu.
he still hasn't won that NC solely on his own terms
Posted on 9/27/11 at 10:22 am to Tiger_n_ATL
quote:
Why they always have to be compared against each other in a "who's better" internet fight among 16 year olds never ceases to amaze me. The collective intelligence and attention span of the internet dweebs of America is exasperating.
Could it possibly be that one succeeded the other?
Posted on 9/27/11 at 10:26 am to bigpurple1957
quote:
went 5-5-1, then 6-4-1, 8-4,8-4 and 7-5.
I agree...Mac's season records took a nose dive from the 5 or so 9 win seasons in a row his teams had put up.
Mac won 69% of his games.
The amazing thing with Miles is that he is having this kinda success at a time when the SEC is stronger/deeper than at anytime in its history as demostrated by the SEC winning the last 5 BCS titles and that by 4 different teams!!
Posted on 9/27/11 at 10:29 am to Cameron Cooke
quote:
I respect LM but the championships were on Saban's recruits
So in your pathetic little juvenile brain, Saban's championship was Shula's?
Please tell me you aren't allowed on the streets without a keeper.
Posted on 10/11/11 at 5:07 pm to Weaver
bump
Posted on 10/11/11 at 5:14 pm to Weaver
You omit his most impressive statistic (in my opinion).
Against out of conference opponents ranked in the Top 25, Miles is 11-1.
For comparison's sake:
Saban is 12-7 (at Alabama and LSU)
Stoops is a laughable 7-8.
Against out of conference opponents ranked in the Top 25, Miles is 11-1.
For comparison's sake:
Saban is 12-7 (at Alabama and LSU)
Stoops is a laughable 7-8.
Posted on 10/11/11 at 5:26 pm to Antonio Moss
It also helps LSU in that Miles has become somewhat of a "media darling". He is a very interesting character and unconventional in his apporoach to winning football. This helps bring positive attention to the program and helps with his already outstanding recruiting success. Having such an great non-conferences record against ranked teams shows me that he is a very good, soon to be great coach. The future of LSU football is in great hands. Plus, I just like the guy, unlike Saban, who although I respected for bringing LSU back to prominence, I couldn't stand.
Posted on 10/11/11 at 5:27 pm to Cameron Cooke
quote:
I respect LM but the championships were on Saban's recruits.
sons of mother bitches....are you serious?
Posted on 10/11/11 at 5:29 pm to Hoofhearted
quote:
He couldn't beat the Bear from Alabama.
Most could not
Posted on 10/11/11 at 5:30 pm to SouthOfSouth
What was the Bear's winning percentage? Bear was 323-85-17 and 15-12 in bowls
His all time record was only 73%
His all time record was only 73%
This post was edited on 10/11/11 at 5:33 pm
Posted on 10/11/11 at 5:33 pm to Antonio Moss
quote:
Against out of conference opponents ranked in the Top 25, Miles is 11-1.
I added this to the first post.
Posted on 10/11/11 at 5:50 pm to Weaver
quote:
You omit his most impressive statistic (in my opinion).
Against out of conference opponents ranked in the Top 25, Miles is 11-1.
For comparison's sake:
Saban is 12-7 (at Alabama and LSU)
Stoops is a laughable 7-8
Wow. That's pretty telling.
Posted on 10/11/11 at 5:54 pm to TigerTreyjpg
I'm always curious why the "winning with (former coach's) players" tag is usually ONLY applied to Les Miles.
Didn't Bob Stoops win his BCS title in his 2nd year? Urban Meyer in his 2nd or 3rd? Yet you never hear that same criticism of them.
Just a thought.
Didn't Bob Stoops win his BCS title in his 2nd year? Urban Meyer in his 2nd or 3rd? Yet you never hear that same criticism of them.
Just a thought.
Posted on 10/11/11 at 6:01 pm to Weaver
quote:
SEC Championship game record 1-1
What year did we lose an SEC Championship?
Posted on 10/11/11 at 6:04 pm to SanFranTiger
I'm always curious why the "winning with (former coach's) players" tag is usually ONLY applied to Les Miles.
Didn't Bob Stoops win his BCS title in his 2nd year? Urban Meyer in his 2nd or 3rd? Yet you never hear that same criticism of them.
Just a thought.
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it all depends on the thinker to have that thought.
it all depends on the kind of thinker that has that thought.
the thinkers who have that thought are pitiful thinkers.
haters gotta hate.
hatters gotta hat.
sometimes, i don't even know what i think.
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p.s. to be even more clear, it takes a looser to have a negative miles thought when not considering that saban did it with dinardo players.
in other words, i agree with your statement that the thought of nega-miles doesn't work if you consider that most coaches win with other's recruits.
Didn't Bob Stoops win his BCS title in his 2nd year? Urban Meyer in his 2nd or 3rd? Yet you never hear that same criticism of them.
Just a thought.
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it all depends on the thinker to have that thought.
it all depends on the kind of thinker that has that thought.
the thinkers who have that thought are pitiful thinkers.
haters gotta hate.
hatters gotta hat.
sometimes, i don't even know what i think.
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p.s. to be even more clear, it takes a looser to have a negative miles thought when not considering that saban did it with dinardo players.
in other words, i agree with your statement that the thought of nega-miles doesn't work if you consider that most coaches win with other's recruits.
This post was edited on 10/11/11 at 6:09 pm
Posted on 10/11/11 at 6:06 pm to Klark Kent
quote:
What year did we lose an SEC Championship?
'05 against UGA
Posted on 10/11/11 at 6:10 pm to Mulat
quote:
How anyone could think Saban was a better coach is beyond me.
he has Connie Burns (wife of assistant) recruiting for him.
This post was edited on 10/11/11 at 6:10 pm
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