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re: Let's see what the rant thinks about this QB comparison...
Posted on 9/10/10 at 1:36 pm to deuce985
Posted on 9/10/10 at 1:36 pm to deuce985
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Newton threw some decent balls last night. JJ has absolutely HORRIBLE mechanics, especially his release/accuracy.
Tryelle Pryor has horrible mechanics, and he's a heisman canidate
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Posted on 9/10/10 at 1:37 pm to Roaad
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We have a better OL, so I imagine we should put up better numbers against them.
according to who? Not the SEC Coaches:
2010 pre-season 1st teamers:
Lee Ziemba (Auburn)
2010 pre-season 2nd teamers:
Joseph Barksdale (LSU)
Ryan Pugh (Auburn)
Auburn-2 all SEC linemen
LSU-one all SEC lineman
LINK
This post was edited on 9/10/10 at 1:46 pm
Posted on 9/10/10 at 1:38 pm to deuce985
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JJ has absolutely HORRIBLE mechanics, especially his release/accuracy.
Credibility gone.
There are a lot of things to criticize Jefferson for, but accuracy isn't one of them.
In all honesty, I think a lot of posters here only watch LSU games and don't take the time to watch other college QBs. Even the best college QBs throw errant passes from time to time. Hell, Drew Brees is arguable the most accurate passer in the NFL and he threw two or three passes off the mark last night.
Posted on 9/10/10 at 1:38 pm to MightyYat
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MSU's defense>>>>>UNC's 2nd team defense?
Nope
Posted on 9/10/10 at 1:38 pm to mhasen1
I don't know what is so funny about what he said. You see UNC play one game against LSU and all of a sudden they have a better defense than a team like MSU? Who I might add played well last night.
A UNC team that was loaded with young inexperience and had about a week to develop chemistry with each other?
Just because LSU nearly folded a game to them, does not mean they're a great defense yet. Especially when you consider the inconsistencies LSU has showed over the past two years. Need I remind people of shitty teams like LA Tech destroying LSU in the trenches?
A UNC team that was loaded with young inexperience and had about a week to develop chemistry with each other?
Just because LSU nearly folded a game to them, does not mean they're a great defense yet. Especially when you consider the inconsistencies LSU has showed over the past two years. Need I remind people of shitty teams like LA Tech destroying LSU in the trenches?
Posted on 9/10/10 at 1:38 pm to MightyYat
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MSU's defense>>>>>UNC's 2nd team defense?
I have to disagree on this. I know it wasn't UNC's starters but they were still much better than what MSU has. Our 2nd team Defense is way better than what MSU has. I also think if we keep Newton from running and make him throw, we win.
Posted on 9/10/10 at 1:39 pm to MightyYat
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Cam's stats: 11-19 136yds 2TDs 1 INT and Auburn thinks they have one of the best QBs in the world and was named player of the game.
Jefferson's stats: 15-21 151yds 2TDs 1 INT and the LSU fan base has been losing their shite over the "poor" play of the QB.
The only thing I saw Cam do better than JJ was go through his reads quicker. His running is out of necessity and not a good thing in the long term.
Posted on 9/10/10 at 1:40 pm to MightyYat
Nice post Yat. The fact that two very bad plays out of fifty-some odd can sway the perceived play of any QB is just the lay of the land these days. That is, until a guy reaches star-status. Jones, Risher, Hodson, Tyler, Booty, Davey, Mauck, J.R. and Flynn all had their negative moments. However each achieved levels of good standing in the public eye during their careers. JJ really never has, other than folks feeling like he showed promise against Ga Tech. Everyone's been waiting for him to just grab the reins and be the man and but for a limited few, that has not happened. You back out those two awful plays last week and he may well have turned the corner to swaying the majority's view if him. As for Auburn's QB, the school and media have done a great job of raising him to star-status(much like Tebow) before he took his first snap. He will be given the benefit of the doubt when he under-achieves, up to a point. Let's hope JJ climbs the mountain this week.
Posted on 9/10/10 at 1:40 pm to Antonio Moss
Yea, tell that to TT who has to stop his route completely on a 5 yard pass and catch a ball that nearly hit the ground. Or RR who had to stop on his deep route and gave the S a opportunity to make a play on it.
JJ has never had good accuracy, period. I don't think anyone can argue that at all. His release definitely doesn't do him any favors.
JJ has never had good accuracy, period. I don't think anyone can argue that at all. His release definitely doesn't do him any favors.
This post was edited on 9/10/10 at 1:41 pm
Posted on 9/10/10 at 1:40 pm to Handsome Harry
Posted on 9/10/10 at 1:40 pm to MightyYat
Auburn has themselves a find athelte. But Cam is not a QB.
Posted on 9/10/10 at 1:40 pm to Antonio Moss
quote:JJ's down the field accuracy is not very good, he builds up his completion percentage from 4 and 5 yard throws
There are a lot of things to criticize Jefferson for, but accuracy isn't one of them.
Posted on 9/10/10 at 1:41 pm to deuce985
Dude just STFU. I am a huge UNC fan outside of LSU and have been watching their games for a while. They have ridiculous talent on D. You idiots just want to believe that our O is going to tank again and you wont give credit where its due. Just GTFO if you honestly think States D>>>>>>UNC's 2nd team.
Posted on 9/10/10 at 1:42 pm to Ford Frenzy
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JJ's down the field accuracy is not very good
What was he last game "down the field"?
Posted on 9/10/10 at 1:42 pm to Ford Frenzy
And his accuracy isn't that great with those passes either. He'll throw a decent ball, then right after that a terrible pass. That is why LSU can't sustain long drives. Or at least, part of the problem...
Posted on 9/10/10 at 1:43 pm to deuce985
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A UNC team that was loaded with young inexperience and had about a week to develop chemistry with each other?
If you believe this, then you are either nieve or ignorant. They had been practicing together for weeks as a group since the coaches thought some starters would get held out. Even if not, they still would have been practicing together with the 2nd unit. So the chemistry was there either way.
And by the way, at LSU were expect our 2nd unit guys to perform just as well as our starters right? Many on this site even think that several of our backups are superior to our starters. Why would it be different at UNC?
Posted on 9/10/10 at 1:43 pm to LSUGradATL
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Or RR who had to stop on his deep route and gave the S a opportunity to make a play on it.
Man I don't know about this. He threw a pretty good ball. RR might have slowed a tiny bit at the end but he was still running fast as hell.
Posted on 9/10/10 at 1:44 pm to More beer please
quote:oh I didn't realize this was a 1 game assessment, my bad
What was he last game "down the field"?
Posted on 9/10/10 at 1:44 pm to MightyYat
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Cam's stats: 11-19 136yds 2TDs 1 INT and Auburn thinks they have one of the best QBs in the world and was named player of the game.
Jefferson's stats: 15-21 151yds 2TDs 1 INT and the LSU fan base has been losing their shite over the "poor" play of the QB.
Interesting comparison. But I think Cam Newton is in the right system. Jefferson, on the other hand, put up those stats in a system that does not fit his strengths. So I really gotta give it to Jefferson...despite being in a crazy, insane, spread passing offense he is still able to put up decent, respectable stats.
Posted on 9/10/10 at 1:44 pm to RANDY44
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Nice post Yat. The fact that two very bad plays out of fifty-some odd can sway the perceived play of any QB is just the lay of the land these days. That is, until a guy reaches star-status. Jones, Risher, Hodson, Tyler, Booty, Davey, Mauck, J.R. and Flynn all had their negative moments. However each achieved levels of good standing in the public eye during their careers. JJ really never has, other than folks feeling like he showed promise against Ga Tech. Everyone's been waiting for him to just grab the reins and be the man and but for a limited few, that has not happened. You back out those two awful plays last week and he may well have turned the corner to swaying the majority's view if him. As for Auburn's QB, the school and media have done a great job of raising him to star-status(much like Tebow) before he took his first snap. He will be given the benefit of the doubt when he under-achieves, up to a point. Let's hope JJ climbs the mountain this week.
+ 1,000,000
I want JJ to seperate himself. I want him to go out and WIN a game instead of seemingly manage it. That said, I will still give him the benefit of the doubt, but as far as Tiger nation goes, he needs some consistent, high level play.
Basically, I think alot of people think JJ is the lesser of two evils, rather than the better of two talented QBS.
I think of him in the latter, but too many think of him in the former. These next two games are huge for him to build confidence and cement himself amongst the fanbase, IMO
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