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Posted on 12/17/15 at 1:21 pm to
Posted by More beer please
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Posted on 12/17/15 at 1:21 pm to
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But that's the conclusion everyone is jumping to off the bat for sure.


Why shouldnt we?

Posted by tbabino
Member since Aug 2014
1540 posts
Posted on 12/17/15 at 1:21 pm to
So...first we had the total screwup with Miles and his job status...and now, this. Yeah, I'm POSITIVE we will continue to attract good assistant coaches, as well as a big-name head coach, very soon.
It's getting harder and harder to care about this program that I love so much.
Posted by BayouBengals03
lsu14always
Member since Nov 2007
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Posted on 12/17/15 at 1:22 pm to
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I read the board daily. There's no witch hunt. People don't want Alleva fired just because he didn't fire Miles.



You can tell yourself that. But to act like it's not a part of it is silly. After they announced miles was staying, this board blew up. People were in hysterics.
Posted by Salviati
Member since Apr 2006
7476 posts
Posted on 12/17/15 at 1:22 pm to
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“It’s exactly what coach has been saying all along, that the contract was altered after he signed it in 2012,” said Jill Craft, attorney for Chavis. “You can’t alter a contract and try to claim it’s valid and you certainly can’t sue over it. One of the things they did admit was altered was the buyout provision. In some sense, it’s vindication.”
This statement contains so many errors it's laughable.

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You can’t alter a contract and try to claim it’s valid
Of course you can alter an contract and claim it's valid. It is valid as to the unaltered original, and the alteration is valid if both parties consented.

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You can’t alter a contract . . . and you certainly can’t sue over it.
Of course you can sue over an altered contract. Again, it is valid as to the unaltered original, and the alteration is valid if both parties consented.

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One of the things they did admit was altered was the buyout provision.
It does not matter if LSU admitted that it altered was the buyout provision.

Is the alteration even relevant? Is LSU trying to enforce the alteration?

Is the alteration enforceable? Is LSU even claiming that the alteration is enforceable?

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In some sense, it’s vindication.
This is the most telling statement of all. IF LSU was seeking to enforce an unauthorized alteration of the contract, Jill Kraft would not be hedging her words. She would not be so measured. She would not be saying "In some sense, it’s vindication." She would be claiming outright victory.

Moreover, Barton is too good of an attorney to be trying to enforce an unenforceable contract clause. There's no way that he missed a relevant unauthorized alteration if he needed it to win his case.
Posted by BayouBengals03
lsu14always
Member since Nov 2007
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Posted on 12/17/15 at 1:22 pm to
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Why shouldnt we?

Because people on this board are normally wrong.
Posted by diehard24
Member since Oct 2006
530 posts
Posted on 12/17/15 at 1:22 pm to
It amazes me how everyone makes strong conclusions based off an incomplete set of facts presented in a news article. If you have ever been involved in a case or issue that gets reported on, then you know exactly how off-base news articles usually are from the true issues before the court.

Does it say what the alteration was? Did it change any substance? Does it say whether or not it was done with the consent of Chavis or his attorney/agent? Without this information, it is premature to jump to any conclusions.
Posted by Adam Banks
District 5
Member since Sep 2009
37124 posts
Posted on 12/17/15 at 1:22 pm to
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quote: Yeah, that's it. Read the board, man. The administration, the staff, everyone is getting blamed for every decision, event, etc. It's all continued backlash from how the Miles situation was handled, and just because they didn't fire Miles in general. People wanted Miles fired. Like I said, it could be proven to be correct and justified. But that's the conclusion everyone is jumping to off the bat for sure.


I don't give a shite what the change was it could have been teh to the. We are dealing with a multi million dollar department you don't change shite without getting chavis to sign on the line. Otherwise you are putting the department in unnecessary risk.
This post was edited on 12/17/15 at 1:28 pm
Posted by Tigerdew
The Garden District of Da' Parish
Member since Dec 2003
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Posted on 12/17/15 at 1:25 pm to
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You can tell yourself that. But to act like it's not a part of it is silly. After they announced miles was staying, this board blew up. People were in hysterics.


This board has been calling for Alleva's job for years now. Where have you been?
Posted by BayouBengals03
lsu14always
Member since Nov 2007
99999 posts
Posted on 12/17/15 at 1:26 pm to
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This board has been calling for Alleva's job for years now. Where have you been?

Oh, I'm well aware.
Posted by More beer please
Member since Feb 2010
46419 posts
Posted on 12/17/15 at 1:26 pm to
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Because people on this board are normally wrong.


Fair enough, but if a restaurant fricks up your meal 4-5 times in a row why would you expect it to be any different the next time?

Posted by lsusportsman2
Member since Oct 2007
27232 posts
Posted on 12/17/15 at 1:26 pm to
LSU sports sucks right now. Our administration is a complete joke.
Posted by Pax Regis
Alabama
Member since Sep 2007
15125 posts
Posted on 12/17/15 at 1:27 pm to
I'm not here to have a dick measuring contest with you. I get it, you think allowing Chavis to try this very public case in the media with no opposition is the smart move. I disagree. I think this looks bad. You think all is well. Ok good we have that settled.
Posted by TigerBait1127
Houston
Member since Jun 2005
47336 posts
Posted on 12/17/15 at 1:30 pm to
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I'm not here to have a dick measuring contest with you.


But LSU should have a dick measuring contest with the Chavis team?

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You think all is well


Some more shitty logic. When did I say that all is well? Unlike you, I'm going to wait and make an informed opinion.

Posted by dgnx6
Member since Feb 2006
87502 posts
Posted on 12/17/15 at 1:33 pm to
Told y'all. But Alleva is a nice guy.
Posted by Pax Regis
Alabama
Member since Sep 2007
15125 posts
Posted on 12/17/15 at 1:33 pm to
Merry Christmas and Happy New Year to you!
Posted by PennyPacker
Where things are bigger and better
Member since Jan 2010
1066 posts
Posted on 12/17/15 at 1:36 pm to
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It does not matter if LSU admitted that it altered was the buyout provision.



Where did you get your ethics compass??? By altering the contract, LSU (the Athletic Department) just told the world that they are UNETHICAL!!!!!!!!!!!

This does not dismiss the fact that Chavis may have also acted unethical.

However, trying to sugar coat or justify either act is pure BS. Whoever altered, approved, and knew about this should be fired. NO EXCUSES!!
Posted by TigerBait1127
Houston
Member since Jun 2005
47336 posts
Posted on 12/17/15 at 1:38 pm to
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Merry Christmas and Happy New Year to you!




Posted by TigerBait1127
Houston
Member since Jun 2005
47336 posts
Posted on 12/17/15 at 1:38 pm to
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Where did you get your ethics compass??? By altering the contract, LSU (the Athletic Department) just told the world that they are UNETHICAL!!!!!!!!!!!


Can we wait to see what exactly was altered
Posted by TBoy
Kalamazoo
Member since Dec 2007
28053 posts
Posted on 12/17/15 at 1:38 pm to
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This is the most telling statement of all. IF LSU was seeking to enforce an unauthorized alteration of the contract, Jill Kraft would not be hedging her words. She would not be so measured. She would not be saying "In some sense, it’s vindication." She would be claiming outright victory.


Jill Craft is a tough attorney. This statement is absolutely correct.

We don't have the information to really draw any conclusions from this except that LSU has admitted that some language was changed after the contract was signed, and the lawsuit is still going forward. This obviously wasn't a case ending admission.
Posted by PennyPacker
Where things are bigger and better
Member since Jan 2010
1066 posts
Posted on 12/17/15 at 1:44 pm to
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TigerBait1127


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Can we wait to see what exactly was altered


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One of the things they did admit was altered was the buyout provision


We already know they admitted to altering the buyout provision. It's not like they changed "where to were" in a sentence. Sorry but, when someone changes a contract everyone must re-sign/initial the changed contract. By not getting Chavis to sign/initial it they acted unethical. If we can't see that then we are biased.
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