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re: LSU defense must stop Demps!
Posted on 10/9/09 at 9:14 am to KCBasketball
Posted on 10/9/09 at 9:14 am to KCBasketball
The middle of our offensive line is young. Their defensive line is dominant. Its going to be tough to score. We need to match them defensively and keep them from scoring. We have all the ability in the world but I'm not sure we are ready for this. Good preparation for Bama though.
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Posted on 10/9/09 at 9:25 am to gatorrocks
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Demps > Holiday. No comparison besides they both ran 10.01 in the 100 meter.
In all honesty, they could be close to the same.
Put Demps in a pro style offense and what do you have? You're right. Trindon Holliday.
Demps and Rainey are both products of the system. If they were in a pro-style offense, with their size, you honestly think they'd be as successful? If so, I'll have what you're having.
Posted on 10/9/09 at 9:26 am to KCBasketball
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But how much offense have we really run to this point?
Posted on 10/9/09 at 9:27 am to Prominentwon
we should put TH in as a spying/roving LB or DB when Demps goes in. TH could run through would-be blockers' legs.
Posted on 10/9/09 at 9:28 am to jmtigerfan
If we stop those two RB's, we win the game, bottom line.
Posted on 10/9/09 at 9:30 am to Tiger_n_ATL
Don't forget (not YOU.. but like.. the guys actually playing and stuff) Deonte Thompson.. best deep threat receiver is now healthy.. 
This post was edited on 10/9/09 at 9:32 am
Posted on 10/9/09 at 9:40 am to ALGator
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Deonte Thompson.. best deep threat receiver is now healthy..
True, but he hasn't shown enough to be worried about yet. With as much rain as they're expecting, do you think the deep ball with Thompson would be a problem? I don't.
Posted on 10/9/09 at 9:47 am to ALGator
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Deonte Thompson.. best deep threat receiver is now healthy..
Deonte Thompson caught 18 passes for 269 yards in 2008.
Josh Reed caught 19 passes fof 293 yards in 1 game..
Posted on 10/9/09 at 9:47 am to Prominentwon
There's a 50/50 chance it could be a problem
rain == fumbles.. hopefully we can recover them and not turn it over. That's my main concern.
rain == fumbles.. hopefully we can recover them and not turn it over. That's my main concern.
Posted on 10/9/09 at 9:50 am to Sammich
He's our best deep threat receiver this year. Last year we had Percy Harvin and Louis Murphy.. didn't need much of anyone else, smartass 
Posted on 10/9/09 at 9:53 am to ALGator
Any word on if Downs is back for this game?
Posted on 10/9/09 at 9:55 am to McLemore
Chavis has done REALLY well 3 out of the last 4 years when it comes to stopping Florida's offensive attack......and the truth is, TENN just showed us how to beat Florida by containing their running game.
Florida has world class speed. I would have to say that I truly believe that LSU and Florida are the two fastest teams in college football. That is an advantage to their offense and it can be detrimental to our defense because so far this season, our LBs, Safetys, and CBs have had a tendency to overpursue and lose outside contain. Combine that with spotty form-tackling, and you have 6-10, or more, 15+ yard plays down the sideline each game. We can't afford to have that happen against Florida, but thankfully, that decrepit old, father of the spawn of Satan running Tenn's defense showed us how to contain and shutdown the Florida running game.
One of Florida's biggest compliments to their speed is their use of misdirection, and for a while now, 90% of the teams that they've played have not been able to cope with all the counters, QB options, and tricky reverse plays from their spread offense. Monte Kiffin's strategy, which worked amazingly well, was to have at least one player ( usually a LB or SS ) hold back and not pursue down the line as the field shifted to one side or the other. Then, by having a solid containment on the back side of the play, when the counter or reverse came back their way, they easily made tons of tackles for losses, or were able to drive the play back toward the D-Linemen. The man was almost always in position to stuff the play instead of attempting to chase it down from behind which is something I saw WAY too often last year. Now, this whole scheme relies on the assumption that the defensive player being held accountable for containment is great at making one-on-one open field tackles AND does not make the dreadful mistake of taking an inside line to the tackler, allowing him to bounce outside, or moving to far into the backfield in an effort to contain, and thus allowing the runner to have an easy lane upfield where he can then cut it outside.
It was really a beautiful thing to watch as Tennessee's Defense showed the Gators that someone has finally caught on and has come up with a way to counteract their speed and misdirection.
I truly hope that Chavis and our players have watched the Tenn/Fla game repeatedly and can replicate that scheme to perfection.
If so, with our speed and talent on D, which obviously overshadows Tennessee's ( except for Berry ), we should be able to put up a great showing and hold Florida's Offense to a minimum of points.
Our D-Line, and LB's are going to have to have one hell of a game, but I definitely think that they have it in them to be successful. Alot of people aren't giving our D the credit I think it's due, but we've gotten better from week to week and I think that our players are getting to the point where the new defensive schemes are becoming more ingrained in their memory so that things become instinctual and they can react instead of taking that split second to think, and then react. If we do as we're capable of, we're gonna put on a show, and the Valley is gonna be rockin!
Florida has world class speed. I would have to say that I truly believe that LSU and Florida are the two fastest teams in college football. That is an advantage to their offense and it can be detrimental to our defense because so far this season, our LBs, Safetys, and CBs have had a tendency to overpursue and lose outside contain. Combine that with spotty form-tackling, and you have 6-10, or more, 15+ yard plays down the sideline each game. We can't afford to have that happen against Florida, but thankfully, that decrepit old, father of the spawn of Satan running Tenn's defense showed us how to contain and shutdown the Florida running game.
One of Florida's biggest compliments to their speed is their use of misdirection, and for a while now, 90% of the teams that they've played have not been able to cope with all the counters, QB options, and tricky reverse plays from their spread offense. Monte Kiffin's strategy, which worked amazingly well, was to have at least one player ( usually a LB or SS ) hold back and not pursue down the line as the field shifted to one side or the other. Then, by having a solid containment on the back side of the play, when the counter or reverse came back their way, they easily made tons of tackles for losses, or were able to drive the play back toward the D-Linemen. The man was almost always in position to stuff the play instead of attempting to chase it down from behind which is something I saw WAY too often last year. Now, this whole scheme relies on the assumption that the defensive player being held accountable for containment is great at making one-on-one open field tackles AND does not make the dreadful mistake of taking an inside line to the tackler, allowing him to bounce outside, or moving to far into the backfield in an effort to contain, and thus allowing the runner to have an easy lane upfield where he can then cut it outside.
It was really a beautiful thing to watch as Tennessee's Defense showed the Gators that someone has finally caught on and has come up with a way to counteract their speed and misdirection.
I truly hope that Chavis and our players have watched the Tenn/Fla game repeatedly and can replicate that scheme to perfection.
If so, with our speed and talent on D, which obviously overshadows Tennessee's ( except for Berry ), we should be able to put up a great showing and hold Florida's Offense to a minimum of points.
Our D-Line, and LB's are going to have to have one hell of a game, but I definitely think that they have it in them to be successful. Alot of people aren't giving our D the credit I think it's due, but we've gotten better from week to week and I think that our players are getting to the point where the new defensive schemes are becoming more ingrained in their memory so that things become instinctual and they can react instead of taking that split second to think, and then react. If we do as we're capable of, we're gonna put on a show, and the Valley is gonna be rockin!
Posted on 10/9/09 at 9:55 am to Tiger n Austin
their running has more to do with teams concerned about Tebow. Without Tebow being a threat to run we will see if those backs are still as effective.
Posted on 10/9/09 at 9:56 am to FullBloodedTiger
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TENN just showed us how to beat Florida by containing their running game.
Only problem is we havent been getting pressure up the middle and hitting holes with our linebackers. aka stunt blitz
This post was edited on 10/9/09 at 9:56 am
Posted on 10/9/09 at 10:02 am to KCBasketball
The thing Tennessee did that had a lot of impact was play 5 man defensive front to contain the run. Alabama did the same thing with Terrance Cody last year in the SECCG. If I'm a defensive coordinator and I have a big guy who I can stick in there to play noseguard, that's what I would do against UF's offense.
This post was edited on 10/9/09 at 10:03 am
Posted on 10/9/09 at 10:03 am to Reel Gator
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The real key is turnovers and special teams. You lose the ball on the road and it hurts much worse than at home.
I agree with this. If we can force turnovers on their side of the field, we will have a good shot. I also think that our kickoff team has to keep playing lights out. the key in my mind is to keep Florida on their side of the 50. If they break the 50 alot we will have problems
Posted on 10/9/09 at 10:05 am to KCBasketball
quote:You really think Tebow is gonna be %100? You're an idiot. He is recovering from a serious concussion, and missed a week and half of practice!
LOL at Tebow not being a factor.
Posted on 10/9/09 at 10:06 am to jmtigerfan
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You really think Tebow is gonna be %100? You're an idiot. He is recovering from a serious concussion, and missed a week and half of practice!
If the game is on the line....who you think will be in the game? Yes, im an idiot because im logical. Anything 3rd and short with the game on the line, he will be on the field. Thats being a factor.
But I see how you got that I said he will be 100%....wait no I dont.
This post was edited on 10/9/09 at 10:08 am
Posted on 10/9/09 at 10:08 am to KCBasketball
Yup, I agree. If I were going to lay this game on the shoulders of any one set of players, I would have to say that the D-Line is carrying a large portion of the burden for this game.
We've been getting no pressure, no sacks, etc. The defensive live is absolutely going to have to step up their game.
I do have to say that I've also been disappointed with the number of stunts and blitzes we've been running this season. I remember the days of Saban when, if we weren't running some kind of safety or corner blitz or a badass stunt package with the LB's and Linemen, then it must be 4th down. I like having an ATTACKING defense. Sure, you will sometimes give up a big play, but I think that overall, it pays off. Last week, as Georgia was making their last scoring drive, and several times against Miss State we get into that weak arse pseudo-prevent defense that allows the opponent to really rip us apart. I hate that. Attack the QB, blitz and send more men than they can block. We are fast enough, so that if we are sending 1-2 blitzing players, we will often be able to get to the ball before anything can come of the play. We have to improve our tackling and get out of the habit of overpursuit, though.
We've been getting no pressure, no sacks, etc. The defensive live is absolutely going to have to step up their game.
I do have to say that I've also been disappointed with the number of stunts and blitzes we've been running this season. I remember the days of Saban when, if we weren't running some kind of safety or corner blitz or a badass stunt package with the LB's and Linemen, then it must be 4th down. I like having an ATTACKING defense. Sure, you will sometimes give up a big play, but I think that overall, it pays off. Last week, as Georgia was making their last scoring drive, and several times against Miss State we get into that weak arse pseudo-prevent defense that allows the opponent to really rip us apart. I hate that. Attack the QB, blitz and send more men than they can block. We are fast enough, so that if we are sending 1-2 blitzing players, we will often be able to get to the ball before anything can come of the play. We have to improve our tackling and get out of the habit of overpursuit, though.
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