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Posted on 8/30/10 at 11:38 pm to
Posted by Icansee4miles
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Posted on 8/30/10 at 11:38 pm to
Is it possible that our young offensive skill players are as confused by the Wizard's 5" thick playbook as much as our QB's are? From HS, to college, to the NFL, if the back can't pick up blocks, he is going to be limited in PT. If that is the case, then it could explain why he is behind the older guys. The RB has to do more than just tote the rock.
Posted by Cadello
Eunice
Member since Dec 2007
48912 posts
Posted on 8/30/10 at 11:41 pm to
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jlsutiger
Please clean your computer with saltwater then continue...Its spewing out sewage...........
Posted by dgnx6
Member since Feb 2006
87335 posts
Posted on 8/31/10 at 12:58 am to
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As it turned out, Keiland and Scott were clearly our best 2 backs that year


Not if Addai has anything to say about it.
Posted by jlsutiger
Member since Nov 2004
3523 posts
Posted on 8/31/10 at 1:12 am to
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Not if Addai has anything to say about it.
you do realize we are talking about 2006 and Joe Addai's last season at LSU was 2005, right?
Posted by Barry Badrinath
MISS'IPPI
Member since Mar 2008
6294 posts
Posted on 8/31/10 at 1:15 am to
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I believe this will change week to week especialy if they loose a game or two. There are never no gaurantees in life there are things that happen that changes things out of everyones control and it has never happened before there will be those things this year also.


Classic.
Posted by topgun1676
Clinton, Maryland
Member since May 2007
1850 posts
Posted on 8/31/10 at 1:40 am to
I definitely agree with Jlsutiger's statement concerning Michael Ford. This guy is definitely going to turn some heads. He is a man among boys and possibly could be one of the best backs LSU has ever had before it is all said and done. However, Miles does have a history of being stubborn when it comes to playing underclassmen. I understand that he wants to be loyal to the Seniors, however, a coach should play the players that perform day in and day out and do what is best for the football team. Les is already on the hot seat. So, he cannot afford to stay loyal and lose football games. If he thinks he does, he will end up losing his job. By the way, here is some information that I thought you all would be interested in:

Michael Ford:

In summer workouts, was the only offensive skill player to rank in the top five on the team in the vertical jump, power clean, bench press and squat ... Posted a team-best 42 inches in the vertical jump and was second on the squad in the clean at 352 pounds ... Benched 425 pounds and squatted 510 pounds in May 2010 ... Received recognition in Bruce Feldman's ESPN.com "Top Workout Warriors" in June 2010 ... Named Student-Athlete of the Month in March by the Cox Communications Academic Center for Student-Athletes.


Posted by ipodking
#StopTalkingAboutWomensSports
Member since Jun 2008
58787 posts
Posted on 8/31/10 at 1:57 am to
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Hell, just from last year, Randle should have started over Chris Mitchell and RJ Jackson as 3rd WR. FACT. (instead he had 11 catches all year and didn't get lots of time until late season)


Here's a quote from RR about last season
“Last year, I didn’t know what I was doing until halfway through the season,” Randle said. “I wasn’t running routes well and giving (quarterback Jordan Jefferson) a reason to be confident in me."
Advocate article

There's the reason why RJ and CM were playing over RR. Les put the players who knew the system on the field. When RR learned the routes he got on the field. FACT
This post was edited on 8/31/10 at 2:00 am
Posted by jcb236
Cut Off, LA
Member since Feb 2010
546 posts
Posted on 8/31/10 at 5:15 am to
I know this will sound incredibly stupid, but I am going to trust that the coaching staff knows more about the inner workings of the team than I and anybody on this list know. Unless Coach Miles is some anonymous poster here, I really don't think that anyone has such great insight into the caliber of character, work ethic, and talent of the individual players.

Here is what I THINK I know. WE haven't performed well in two years. We have some talent, but so do other teams. We haven't had great line or qb play. We need to have the best players on the field. We also know that Miles is on the hot seat, and he knows it. When I read his comments or interviews, I take them with more than a grain of salt. They are cryptic, and I would say the same. We rag on this guy for everything. The way he speaks, the turn of a phrase, a controversail call, etc. He is highly paid. To a large degree, it is his job to take abuse from fans.

Some people on this list see doom and gloom in a sunrise. The glass half full or half empty analogy makes me think that a few people on this rant don't even see a glass. I am going to do this (like it actually matters what I or anybody else on this list do). I will assume that Miles wants to keep his job. I will assume he knows that this means winning or losing tough games with respectablity, and no idiotic analyst, I AM NOT SATISFIED WITH LOSING. What I am saying is that we are in each game to the end, and we lost because we ran out of time, not because of stupidity. I think that the coaching staff forgot more about football yesterday than I ever knew, and I hope that they are smart enough to put the best product on the field for their sake as well as for the fans' amusement.
Posted by Walt OReilly
Poplarville, MS
Member since Oct 2005
124694 posts
Posted on 8/31/10 at 5:24 am to
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I believe this will change week to week especialy if they loose a game or two. There are never no gaurantees in life there are things that happen that changes things out of everyones control and it has never happened before there will be those things this year also.


i honestly have no fricking idea what you just said


Me neither.


I read it 3 or 4 time...still have no clue what the frick he was saying
Posted by Ancientiger
WADE, MS
Member since Feb 2006
1214 posts
Posted on 8/31/10 at 6:07 am to
Those games were lost due to Miles' poor game management skills. Then he denies it and throws the QB under the bus. At the very least, he should have been seen running the field goal team onto the field in an attempt to try a field goal (against Ole Myth). That way, failure would have been partly due to time running out. But then, he could have called time out 15 sec. earlier after the next to last play, and the field goal team could have trotted onto the field and lined up properly for a FG attempt.
Miles better wake up and smell the roses quickly; another screwup on national TV and he'll have a lot of time to think of how he should have done differently.

Posted by Hot Carl
Prayers up for 3
Member since Dec 2005
62201 posts
Posted on 8/31/10 at 6:49 am to
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I definitely agree with Jlsutiger's statement concerning Michael Ford. This guy is definitely going to turn some heads. He is a man among boys and possibly could be one of the best backs LSU has ever had before it is all said and done.


I don't think Ford is who you guys think he is. He's going to be good and have a nice career, but I think you're really setting yourself up for disappointment if you think he's going to be some all-time, All-American, 1st round pick back. I just don't think he's that guy.
Posted by uway
Member since Sep 2004
33109 posts
Posted on 8/31/10 at 6:53 am to
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That's awesome


Playing freshman b/c you lack depth at a position is not the same as playing freshman b/c they are more talented than the older guys you have at the same position, but I guess it's simpler for y'all to just laugh at people.

Why does Miles even say things like:
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“I think you can look forward to seeing a carry or two mixed around, but I think you'll see Ridley and Murphy getting the lion's share."

Y'all can say he's just talking and the season hasn't started, but you know as well as I do that unless either Murphy or Ridley is injured, that's how it's actually going to play out. And if Ford has paid any attention over the last few years, he'll believe Miles when he says that and probably has known it since entering fall camp.
Posted by uway
Member since Sep 2004
33109 posts
Posted on 8/31/10 at 6:57 am to
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Les put the players who knew the system on the field


And we looked like shite for most of the year.
Knowing the system < making plays

BUT

knowing the system = safer choice
Posted by BigDogGambler
The Ship
Member since Oct 2009
997 posts
Posted on 8/31/10 at 7:06 am to
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Miles doesn't like to play freshmen...for whatever reason.


First time back to TD.com since '08? Nice 1st post back...
Posted by Choctaw
Pumpin' Sunshine
Member since Jul 2007
77774 posts
Posted on 8/31/10 at 8:30 am to
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You are right, NOBODY execpt LSU has depth. Great national programs like Oklahoma for example had zero upperclassmen at running back so they HAD to start Adrian Peterson. Bama and Georgia are so terrible and couldn't recruit any WRs that Green and Jones were their only options at WR, huh? USC NEVER has impact offensive freshman play b/c they have too much depth. Neither does Ohio State, or Florida. Oh wait...WRONG. That is a completely ridiculous argument.


Im not saying they aren't deep...but they weren't deep at those positions. Look up the stats of the players they beat out and then come back and talk

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yet most of those schools plays those freakishly talented freshman that and you hear about each week.


Uhhh...bullshite. You rarely hear about a freshman coming in and blowing everyone away.

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Hell, just from last year, Randle should have started over Chris Mitchell and RJ Jackson as 3rd WR. FACT.


Thats not a fact...its an opinion. RS admitted himself that he had trouble grasping the playbook and remembering routes. Thats a FACT. Im not saying he shouldn't have played more but there is no way he should've started

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In 2006, Scott and Keiland should have been starting backs long before the NINTH game of the season.


Scott was splitting nearly all the carries with Broussard by the 4th game in '06 and both CS and KW had been getting touches all year. You might want to go back and check your stats.

Like i said...its all a bullshite myth.
This post was edited on 8/31/10 at 8:47 am
Posted by drexyl
Mingovia
Member since Sep 2005
23364 posts
Posted on 8/31/10 at 8:35 am to
hilarious that miles' depth chart is riddled with redshirt and true freshman and people still stamp their feet and throw a hissy fit because their pet player might not get the playing time that it's OBVIOUS they deserve b/c Miles hates freshmen.

Posted by Choctaw
Pumpin' Sunshine
Member since Jul 2007
77774 posts
Posted on 8/31/10 at 8:56 am to
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In 2006, Scott and Keiland should have been starting backs long before the NINTH game of the season. The running game with Vincent/Broussard was atrocious that year until we lost 2 games and the freshman took over late in the season. FACT.


Oh yea...i forgot to add that we were averaging nearly 140 yards per game 6 games into the season. Games in which Scott got plenty of carries.

next
This post was edited on 8/31/10 at 8:58 am
Posted by WelcomeToDeathValley
1st & 1st
Member since Aug 2006
16947 posts
Posted on 8/31/10 at 9:01 am to
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by reports of multiple folks who have watched practice, and have no real agenda, Ford should be 3rd on the depth chart right now. I thought he would emerge as the leader, but it seems the other guys have won the job


Nobody wants to believe he may actually be the 3rd best OVERALL back on the team for some reason.

The Ford craze still confuses me considering there are 3 quality backs, nobody should really care as long as LSU can run the ball effectively.
This post was edited on 8/31/10 at 9:02 am
Posted by drexyl
Mingovia
Member since Sep 2005
23364 posts
Posted on 8/31/10 at 9:08 am to
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nobody should really care as long as LSU can run the ball effectively.
you would think that would be enough.
Posted by rcocke2
New Orleans
Member since Apr 2009
1690 posts
Posted on 8/31/10 at 9:26 am to
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When Ford learns the playbook and LEARNS to pick up the blitz, he will play.


a lot more to running back than just looking good running on first and second down in a scrimmage. The first team back should be proficient at picking up the blitz on passing downs, otherwise they are second or third string.
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