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re: My take on the LSU offense so far
Posted on 9/16/09 at 9:34 pm to offdacorner
Posted on 9/16/09 at 9:34 pm to offdacorner
If lee has to play behind this line, god help us all.
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Posted on 9/16/09 at 9:35 pm to LSUfan4444
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yes, that play dickson being held had nothing to do with how late the ball was thrown and the safety being over in time to defend the play dickson being held did have something to do with where he would have been in relation to the ball....we know where the safety would have been b/c he was already there seriously, save some dignity and don't argue that play. it wasn't a good pass, just leave it alone
Huh? The ball was not thrown late and Dickson would have caught the ball (and may or may not have held on to it after a hit) if the LBer hadn't been riding his jersey from the LOS. There was nothing wrong with the pass. Fortunately, there was nothing wrong with the ref's eyesight either.This post was edited on 9/16/09 at 9:37 pm
Posted on 9/16/09 at 9:36 pm to Tomm
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Because LSU will not be able to throw long passes until the OL decides to actually block pass rushers.
or he wont be able to complete a long pass until he knows how to check to his 2nd read. He holds the ball entirely too long. I dont know what game yall watching
Posted on 9/16/09 at 9:36 pm to TheDoc
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Because LSU will not be able to throw long passes until the OL decides to actually block pass rushers.
COMMA
And JJ has to step it up.
Posted on 9/16/09 at 9:37 pm to Tomm
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Then we have a chicken and egg situation then. Because LSU will not be able to throw long passes until the OL decides to actually block pass rushers
you don't really need great pass coverage to complete vertical passes
JJ needs to make the right pre snap read, and let it go when his back foot hits 5/7 yards
he'll get the opportunities, like he did last week. he just needs to make better passes the the wr's need to do a better job of getting open
JJ has had a tendency since he's been at LSU to hang on to the ball a little too long. add that to a long slow delivery and alot of times guys aren't open when he's read to throw it
he uses his feet to get out alot of those jams so it goes unnoticed alot, but he can progress
he just needs to trust himself a little more and "let it fly"...its really the only way to get better
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hey weren't rushing 6 or 7 guys on defense...they simply couldn't block 4 or 5 pass rushers. You can't throw long against that. What you can do is to call a screen pass which will make those rushers a little less aggressive next time.
screen passes are more effective when the defense blitzes, not when they drop 7 in coverage
Posted on 9/16/09 at 9:38 pm to Lester Earl
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or he wont be able to complete a long pass until he knows how to check to his 2nd read. He holds the ball entirely too long. I dont know what game yall watching
His second read???? 
The guy barely gets the ball in his hands and 2 guys have gotten back to him in the shotgun. Psst, OL, it really, really isn't against the rules to block someone. Seriously, you won't be flagged unless you grab someone.Posted on 9/16/09 at 9:39 pm to offdacorner
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Because if JJ continues to receive the shoddy protection he has thus far, then he'll have to continue to run for his life. And then the odds are that he'll probably get hurt.
I don't believe any true fan wants to see any of our guys hurt. But you make a good point. He's taken some serious hits. No doubt he's a tough guy. I really don't like to see the qb running, regardless of who is playing the position.
Posted on 9/16/09 at 9:40 pm to LSUfan4444
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you don't really need great pass coverage to complete vertical passes JJ needs to make the right pre snap read, and let it go when his back foot hits 5/7 yards he'll get the opportunities, like he did last week. he just needs to make better passes the the wr's need to do a better job of getting open JJ has had a tendency since he's been at LSU to hang on to the ball a little too long. add that to a long slow delivery and alot of times guys aren't open when he's read to throw it he uses his feet to get out alot of those jams so it goes unnoticed alot, but he can progress he just needs to trust himself a little more and "let it fly"...its really the only way to get better
I assume you meant pass protection, not pass coverage. Jefferson hasn't had enough time to do squat. The OL is blocking like matadors (ole style).
Posted on 9/16/09 at 9:42 pm to Tomm
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I assume you meant pass protection, not pass coverage.
yes, i did..my bad
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Jefferson hasn't had enough time to do squat.
thats just not true
has he had tons of opportunities? no...of course not
but to not have concern in the execution when he has had the time and has tried to go vertical is silly
he is struggling right now with that part of his game, lets all just hope he improves
Posted on 9/16/09 at 9:44 pm to LSUfan4444
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you don't really need great pass coverage to complete vertical passes
Posted on 9/16/09 at 9:44 pm to TheDoc
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If lee has to play behind this line, god help us all.
lee's ability to get rid of the ball quickly and hit the slant would be a benefit with a line that can't hold their blocks long...
Posted on 9/16/09 at 9:45 pm to Tomm
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The guy barely gets the ball in his hands and 2 guys have gotten back to him in the shotgun
this is getting way overblown, im not sure what game yall are watching
Posted on 9/16/09 at 9:46 pm to TheDoc
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TheDoc
why is that funny?
you need better protection on 7 step drops (crossing patterns, come backs), unless there is a pump fake or double move somewhere...which hasn't been the case
Posted on 9/16/09 at 9:47 pm to LSUfan4444
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he is struggling right now with that part of his game, lets all just hope he improves
+1
I like beating teams in the turnover battle for the first time in a long time.
the o-line needs to live up to the hype, and JJ needs to hit the open receivers.
granted it was in the rain, people seem to forget it was raining on saturday.
hopefully we can have a NORMAL game this saturday
Posted on 9/16/09 at 9:48 pm to ForeLSU
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lee's ability to get rid of the ball quickly
he just has to get it to the right guy.
that was the problem last year.
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and hit the slant
he was bad at the slant passes last year, hopefully he has improved at those.
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would be a benefit with a line that can't hold their blocks long...
knowing lee has to make quick decisions doesn't give me that much comfort.
Posted on 9/16/09 at 9:48 pm to LSUfan4444
It seems the JJ guys have found their excuse for any faults JJ might have.
Posted on 9/16/09 at 9:50 pm to Stingray
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It seems the JJ guys have found their excuse for any faults JJ might have.
has the o-line played well?
yes or no
Posted on 9/16/09 at 9:50 pm to Stingray
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It seems the JJ guys have found their excuse for any faults JJ might have.
thats been the case since his 3rd play of the ole miss game it seems
anything that bad happens when he is in the game is largely someone elses fault
Posted on 9/16/09 at 9:51 pm to LSUfan4444
Actually if Lee had played behind this line you would see him get rid of the ball quickly. The only issue would be how many would be rushed, forced passes that could get him in trouble.
I do not think he would take many sacks behind the line though.
I do not think he would take many sacks behind the line though.
Posted on 9/16/09 at 9:52 pm to LSUfan4444
what?
now you're just making shite up.
has he been perfect? no.
has he played well all things considered? yes.
now you're just making shite up.
has he been perfect? no.
has he played well all things considered? yes.
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