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re: My take on the LSU offense so far
Posted on 9/17/09 at 8:30 am to LSUfan4444
Posted on 9/17/09 at 8:30 am to LSUfan4444
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the holding on dickson had NOTHING to do with the saftey reading him the entire time and being there to pick the ball
are you really this dense?
if dickson's route is altered by a CB tugging on him, and the ball is thrown in the right place, how is it a bad throw?
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Posted on 9/17/09 at 8:36 am to TheDoc
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how is it a bad throw?
b/c the only person we can definitively know where he would have been on the play if there was no hold was the safety who came over and made the int....why? because he wa actually there
so, if there was not hold and dickson beat his defender, the pass is still thrown in great coverage by the safety who read the play from the jump
if the hold isn't called (which is VERY common) and the throw is still on the money, its into double coverage
i'm not saying its the end of the world...i am advocating more throws like that from jefferson. its really the only way he's going to improve
he has to trust his pre snap read and let the throw go when his back foot hits the groud. if he had a quicker delivery it would help, but he doesn't....he can' waste any time back there
Posted on 9/17/09 at 8:41 am to LSUfan4444
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if the hold isn't called
oh, we're playing the if game now?
Posted on 9/17/09 at 8:42 am to specs1
quote:You seem to be more angry about the fact that JL was put into a position to fail, and JJ is being put into a position to be successful. Last year is last year, let it go. The coaches learned from their mistakes with JL and don't want a repeat of the clusterfrick that was 2008. Can you blame them for being careful?
They can't throw downfield. The do not have confidence in Jordan as a passer. They have not given Jordan near the passing load that they gave Lee. Lee was thrown into the fire and was expected to make upperclassman type throws and more often than not he was successful.
Posted on 9/17/09 at 8:47 am to TheDoc
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we're playing the if game now?
are you serious?
yes, we have to play the if game when looking at my comment
you're the one trying to disect it
THANK GOD the hold was called , BECAUSE if, not it would have been an INT
how could you even understand that comment if you don't play the if game?
This post was edited on 9/17/09 at 8:48 am
Posted on 9/17/09 at 8:50 am to LSUfan4444
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yes, we have to play the if game when looking at my comment
So IF UK bats that ball away,we lose the BlueGrass Mircale ?
Posted on 9/17/09 at 8:50 am to Tiger_n_ATL
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The coaches learned from their mistakes with JL and don't want a repeat of the clusterfrick that was 2008. Can you blame them for being careful?
to this point they've had the luxury of a defense not giving up points in a bunch. not saying JJ won't perform when he has to, but some of the playcalling is driven by the pace at which the offense needs to run to win.
Posted on 9/17/09 at 8:51 am to LSUfan4444
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THANK GOD the hold was called , BECAUSE if, not it would have been an INT
it's cause and effect that you are failing to understand.
Posted on 9/17/09 at 8:52 am to I-59 Tiger
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So IF UK bats that ball away,we lose the BlueGrass Mircale ?
Posted on 9/17/09 at 8:52 am to ForeLSU
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The coaches learned from their mistakes with JL and don't want a repeat of the clusterfrick that was 2008. Can you blame them for being careful?
to this point they've had the luxury of a defense not giving up points in a bunch. not saying JJ won't perform when he has to, but some of the playcalling is driven by the pace at which the offense needs to run to win.
I think you both are on to something.With that said,I'm looking forward to JJ lighting it up this weekend.
Posted on 9/17/09 at 8:54 am to ForeLSU
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You seem to be more angry about the fact that JL was put into a position to fail, and JJ is being put into a position to be successful. Last year is last year, let it go. The coaches learned from their mistakes with JL and don't want a repeat of the clusterfrick that was 2008. Can you blame them for being careful?
Not angry, just believe it should be acknowleged and believe it shows that the vitriol aimed at Lee was way over the top and inappropriate. But I agree w/ your post as regards to their learning curve.
My sincere hope that all of our guys have great careers at LSU and have the opportunity to further their dreams at the next level.
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to this point they've had the luxury of a defense not giving up points in a bunch. not saying JJ won't perform when he has to, but some of the playcalling is driven by the pace at which the offense needs to run to win.
Another good point by FORELSU.
Posted on 9/17/09 at 8:54 am to Tiger_n_ATL
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You seem to be more angry about the fact that JL was put into a position to fail, and JJ is being put into a position to be successful.
+1
it's sour grapes from the lee cheerleaders on here. let it fricking GO.
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Last year is last year, let it go.
+1 agreed
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The coaches learned from their mistakes with JL and don't want a repeat of the clusterfrick that was 2008.
+1 agreed
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Can you blame them for being careful?
i'd hope they would have learned SOMETHING from last year with the playcalling.
lee could throw the deep passes well, but the crossing routes were not his friend.
Posted on 9/17/09 at 9:01 am to LSUfan4444
Lets face the ol has not played well so far. 
Posted on 9/17/09 at 9:04 am to I-59 Tiger
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IF UK bats that ball away,we lose the BlueGrass Mircale ?
lets try this rant
why not look at what i said, "thank god the hold was called". it is VERY common to miss those. hell, i was taught as a cb to grab the jersey when beat coming out of a route
when looking at that comment, for it to make sense, you have to say "if". the reason i am greateful for the hold being called (on an often missed call) is because of what the alternative would have been....hence the "if"
do some of you mornons even know what you're arguing anymore?
Posted on 9/17/09 at 9:04 am to cajunjj
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Lets face the ol has not played well so far.
nonsense
les said they are the best ever and have played well so far
Posted on 9/17/09 at 9:05 am to LSUfan4444
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do some of you mornons even know what you're arguing anymore?
:irony:
Posted on 9/17/09 at 9:05 am to TheDoc
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it's cause and effect that you are failing to understand
its reality you always fail to understand
AGAIN!!!!!! DICKSON BEING HELD HAD NOTHING AT ALL TO DO WITH THE SAFETY BEING ALL OVER THAT PASS!!! NOTHING!
Posted on 9/17/09 at 9:13 am to Ponchy Tiger
Im starting to believe the reason people post/believe/agree with this type of thinking is b/c that whats you want to hear.
You people dont seem to get it.
If our first two games were vs appstate and nrth texas then I may buy it...fact remains both of our games this season were in doubt in the fourth qrtr.
I suppose by believing that it just makes you feel better about yourself and this team.
Futhermore take the years since LM has been here... weve gone form best we could have at qb play with (JR, MF, RP) to the worst in (JL, AH, JJ) im not saying JJ or JL cant become in time the qb those other guys were, but as of today til the time theyve been here.. they are not in the same league.
Has LM done this since hes been here?
Has our offense just all of a sudden woke up and starting putting up huge numbers or bunch of different plays that we didnt see earlier... I mean did you wake up one day after a mid season game and go..."WOW we sure fooled those guys with all those new plays" 
Of course you didnt and you won't this year either...unless of course its a fake field goal or punt.. Les is tricky in that part.
However what you will find out over the next 2 months is what kind of of qb JJ really is.
TIME WILL TELL.
You people dont seem to get it.
If our first two games were vs appstate and nrth texas then I may buy it...fact remains both of our games this season were in doubt in the fourth qrtr.
I suppose by believing that it just makes you feel better about yourself and this team.
Futhermore take the years since LM has been here... weve gone form best we could have at qb play with (JR, MF, RP) to the worst in (JL, AH, JJ) im not saying JJ or JL cant become in time the qb those other guys were, but as of today til the time theyve been here.. they are not in the same league.
Has LM done this since hes been here?
Has our offense just all of a sudden woke up and starting putting up huge numbers or bunch of different plays that we didnt see earlier... I mean did you wake up one day after a mid season game and go..."WOW we sure fooled those guys with all those new plays"
Of course you didnt and you won't this year either...unless of course its a fake field goal or punt.. Les is tricky in that part.
However what you will find out over the next 2 months is what kind of of qb JJ really is.
TIME WILL TELL.
This post was edited on 9/17/09 at 9:18 am
Posted on 9/17/09 at 9:29 am to LSUfan4444
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yes, that play
dickson being held had nothing to do with how late the ball was thrown and the safety being over in time to defend the play
dickson being held did have something to do with where he would have been in relation to the ball....we know where the safety would have been b/c he was already there
seriously, save some dignity and don't argue that play. it wasn't a good pass, just leave it alone
I watched replay again last night.. whether you like it or not the above post is the truth.
RD getting held on the play had abslotley ZERO to do with the int.
If you disagree you are either blind or you are just that fuking stupid.
This post was edited on 9/17/09 at 9:40 am
Posted on 9/17/09 at 9:46 am to LSU Slacker
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I love when holier than thou shows up in threads to preach his propaganda to the people. Apparently he is not a racist but yet he is allowed to call anyone who he disagrees with one. Really it is just comical because I believe he is one of the bigger racist on the board, right up there with BT if he used the reference.
not this shite again. Please dont ever compare me to that guy anymore.
There is nothing in common at all I have with that loser other than the fact that he has a hardon for me as proven with his sig.
Keep fighting the good fight off the corner.
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