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re: No Respect for Les Miles
Posted on 4/17/13 at 1:22 am to faxis
Posted on 4/17/13 at 1:22 am to faxis
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But you're stupid enough to try the "well we gots LA talent" line when that shite never happened prior to Saban--fixed it for you.
Saban was the first LSU coach to put a fence around your in-state talent. Before that, all the other perennial powers would cherry pick the best Louisiana High School talent while LSU got the leftovers.
How many conference championships did Miles win before he started to land LA talent at LSU? Can you spell None?
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Posted on 4/17/13 at 2:03 am to Sheetbend
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Saban was the first LSU coach to put a fence around your in-state talent. Before that, all the other perennial powers would cherry pick the best Louisiana High School talent while LSU got the leftovers.
Are you nuts?
LSU got lots of Louisiana talent for years and years. It was a period from 88 to 94 we had problems and it was DiNardo who stopped the mass exit of talent.
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How many conference championships did Miles win before he started to land LA talent at LSU?
Miles landed La talent from the start and won the west his first year.
Posted on 4/17/13 at 2:58 am to LSU Groupee
as much as he can piss me off, im glad he's our coach. can't help but love the guy.
Posted on 4/17/13 at 3:13 am to Choctaw
lmao
Posted on 4/17/13 at 3:16 am to tayda99
do you honestly think we cant do worse than miles....other than saban or maybe meyer there's noone i would prefer...you
Posted on 4/17/13 at 3:32 am to CptBengal
quote:Ah, so you just dismiss his overall qualifications, performance, and immense success as a head coach because there is one specific aspect of his job where you think he is struggles?
and how many of the losses are due to his failures as a gameday HC?
That's like cutting Barry Sanders because he doesn't block very well.
"gameday HC" isn't Coach Miles' primary responsibility; winning is. And he wins more than just about any other coach in the country. Whether he's winning because he recruits good talent and coaches them lights out, or because he bumbles around on gameday but just kicks absolutely everyone's arse so badly in recruiting that he wins 80% of the time anyway, it simply does not matter. Bottom line, he wins.
Posted on 4/17/13 at 3:39 am to Sheetbend
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How many conference championships did Miles win before he started to land LA talent at LSU? Can you spell None?
Google "Ryan Perrilloux"
Posted on 4/17/13 at 6:00 am to Sheetbend
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How many conference championships did Miles win before he started to land LA talent at LSU? Can you spell None?
If you are referring to his time at Ok State he brought a perennial bottom dweller to a yearly bowl team in a state that had to compete with Oklahoma for Texas recruits ever year. Oh yea and he was 2-2 versus that Oklahoma team during one of their best decades in history.
Posted on 4/17/13 at 6:55 am to Choctaw
You'd have thought that last year after we got our asses handed to us in the Nat'l Champ. But as usual, with our Les Miles coached team, we came out for a lot of games unprepared, unfocused, and unenthusiastic. We lost to two teams that we should've beat by two touchdowns easily, we gave away another gem to our biggest rival, and damn near lost to a 3-9 Auburn, played like shite against Towson, Ole Miss, and Arkansas.
Idk what y'all see in the guy. Sure he has 11 wins in 5 of his last 8 seasons. But this isn't LSU of the 60's-90's where if we play Bama tough then it's ok. This is the LSU where we should be expecting to whip Bama's arse year in and year out. I'm thoroughly convinced that we had more talent than they did this year. But one man is holding us back.
There's no reason that we shouldn't be top 3 nationally every year with the talent we have.
Les continues to show that he can't progress players and that he can't get the most out of his players. I will stand by my statements I stated earlier which is, we have enough talent to win every ball game it's not we don't have as much talent as the teams that beat us, it's that we are constantly are out coached, unfocused, unprepared, and unenthusiastic.
This is not the players' fault, it's the man who's in charge fault.
Don't get me wrong, I cheer like hell for him to do well and win every single ball game. I'm a tiger and I really and truly believe that Les is too. But I believe that he fails to see his mistakes and the gravity that they have. Because more often than not, coaches' mistakes cost team games, seasons, and championships.
+1. Excellent comment, I completely agree....
Idk what y'all see in the guy. Sure he has 11 wins in 5 of his last 8 seasons. But this isn't LSU of the 60's-90's where if we play Bama tough then it's ok. This is the LSU where we should be expecting to whip Bama's arse year in and year out. I'm thoroughly convinced that we had more talent than they did this year. But one man is holding us back.
There's no reason that we shouldn't be top 3 nationally every year with the talent we have.
Les continues to show that he can't progress players and that he can't get the most out of his players. I will stand by my statements I stated earlier which is, we have enough talent to win every ball game it's not we don't have as much talent as the teams that beat us, it's that we are constantly are out coached, unfocused, unprepared, and unenthusiastic.
This is not the players' fault, it's the man who's in charge fault.
Don't get me wrong, I cheer like hell for him to do well and win every single ball game. I'm a tiger and I really and truly believe that Les is too. But I believe that he fails to see his mistakes and the gravity that they have. Because more often than not, coaches' mistakes cost team games, seasons, and championships.
+1. Excellent comment, I completely agree....
Posted on 4/17/13 at 7:02 am to King Joey
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"gameday HC" isn't Coach Miles' primary responsibility; winning is. And he wins more than just about any other coach in the country. Whether he's winning because he recruits good talent and coaches them lights out, or because he bumbles around on gameday but just kicks absolutely everyone's arse so badly in recruiting that he wins 80% of the time anyway, it simply does not matter. Bottom line, he wins.
The difference is that you and Joe Aleva are happy winning 10 games a year out of a possible 12,13. Me? I have the same mentality as the Alabama AD, Chancellor and Alumni.....I want to win them all every year. We all understand that's not realistic, but who the frick sets their goals to win 10 games? Underachievers do....
Lets pat each other on the back, give raises and order rings for coming in second !!!!!!
Posted on 4/17/13 at 7:22 am to MarlinMan
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The difference is that you and Joe Aleva are happy winning 10 games a year out of a possible 12,13
Well seeing as how only 2 or 3 schools in the country can say that over the past 8 years, and LSU is one of them, yeah, I'm pretty happy about that.
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Me? I have the same mentality as the Alabama AD, Chancellor and Alumni.....I want to win them all every year.
So do I and all the other Miles supporters.
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We all understand that's not realistic
So, then why are you so upset with our coach when he only wins 80+%, which is better than any other coach in our history and better than every coach but one in the SEC?
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but who the frick sets their goals to win 10 games? Underachievers do....
Miles and his supporters do not set the goal at 10 wins. But like you said, it's not realistic to win them all every year, so we don't just assume that since we don't win them all that our coach is a moron.
Even Saban has only won them all once in his entire career. Meyer never did it in the SEC either.
:fearthehat:
This post was edited on 4/17/13 at 7:23 am
Posted on 4/17/13 at 7:37 am to WackyChris
In response to the original post, that perception is probably due to the following (likely not all inclusive):
(1) When Leslie isn't acting like he's stupid, he's acting like a stooge;
(2) Often frustrating/maddening (to fans & observers) game-planning;
(3) Perception of lucky wins; and
(4) Opportunities squandered.
At least, that's my beef with him.
Geaux tigers!
Les...eh.
PS-whatever "impresses upon his players" means, don't you think Saban does that like few others?
(1) When Leslie isn't acting like he's stupid, he's acting like a stooge;
(2) Often frustrating/maddening (to fans & observers) game-planning;
(3) Perception of lucky wins; and
(4) Opportunities squandered.
At least, that's my beef with him.
Geaux tigers!
Les...eh.
PS-whatever "impresses upon his players" means, don't you think Saban does that like few others?
Posted on 4/17/13 at 7:39 am to TampaTiger
You must lead a miserable life.
Posted on 4/17/13 at 7:59 am to WackyChris
The lack of respect for Les is just this:
A media and LSU fanbase perception that was created years ago. I'm not saying all LSU fans, but sites like TD.com contribute to this "lack of respect".
ESPN does it for obvious reasons: LSU isn't a large-market team. Programs like LSU need to be put in their place in the CFB world. That's why games with division rivals don't count, NC are "split" with teams that don't play in the title games, and preseason rankings/schedule strength are ignored or overblown.
Our fan base does it because well...
Well I honestly don't know anymore.
Miles' standard for excellence is two to three times harder than every other SEC coach entering every season due to a tougher schedule and the requirement of beating Saban twice a year. No other coach in the country has that standard, yet the media and Miles' own fan base will bash him to no end when he doesn't accomplish it.
That's the reality.
A media and LSU fanbase perception that was created years ago. I'm not saying all LSU fans, but sites like TD.com contribute to this "lack of respect".
ESPN does it for obvious reasons: LSU isn't a large-market team. Programs like LSU need to be put in their place in the CFB world. That's why games with division rivals don't count, NC are "split" with teams that don't play in the title games, and preseason rankings/schedule strength are ignored or overblown.
Our fan base does it because well...
Well I honestly don't know anymore.
Miles' standard for excellence is two to three times harder than every other SEC coach entering every season due to a tougher schedule and the requirement of beating Saban twice a year. No other coach in the country has that standard, yet the media and Miles' own fan base will bash him to no end when he doesn't accomplish it.
That's the reality.
Posted on 4/17/13 at 8:35 am to MarlinMan
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The difference is that you and Joe Aleva are happy winning 10 games a year out of a possible 12,13. Me? I have the same mentality as the Alabama AD, Chancellor and Alumni.....I want to win them all every year
You idiot, the only team with more wins than LSU since 2007 is Oregon and not Alabama.
Posted on 4/17/13 at 8:42 am to MarlinMan
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The difference is that you and Joe Aleva are happy winning 10 games a year out of a possible 12,13
I don't get it, do retards like you really believe that Miles and Alleva don't want to win championships?
Posted on 4/17/13 at 8:48 am to Sheetbend
quote:
Saban was the first LSU coach to put a fence around your in-state talent.
no he wasn't....Dinardo was.
Posted on 4/17/13 at 8:50 am to MarlinMan
quote:
but who the frick sets their goals to win 10 games?
uhhh...nobody you fricking moron
Posted on 4/17/13 at 8:52 am to Choctaw
If Athlon posted here, Chicken would ban it
Posted on 4/17/13 at 9:38 am to EZE Tiger Fan
The lack of respect is directly from the 2011 NC game and his over the last few years head scratching game time decisions. He made glaring errors in judgement in the Bama game this past year and botched the damn bowl game. I had this same conversation this morning with a buddy at work. I have been a supporter from day one, but this past year I have really lost confidence in his game day coaching. It will all hinge for him on Cam's hire, can he overtake the momentum aTm and even Ole Piss have started and reassert LSU and a contender. Until that happens the media will not give him respect he hasn't earned it in this what have you done lately sports world.
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