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re: Nuss's problem wasn't getting hurt.

Posted on 1/30/26 at 12:08 pm to
Posted by Sheriff Brackett
St. Petersburg, FL
Member since Oct 2024
387 posts
Posted on 1/30/26 at 12:08 pm to
WOAH!!! EASY HOSS!!!! I can tell you're a big boy with all the swearing you're doing!!!!

I've said it before and I'll say it again. Nuss didn't play well against Ole Miss, Alabama, Florida and A&M in back-to-back years. I don't care what he looked like against Nicholls or a 6-6 Oklahoma team because that's all you idiot Nuss Bus roadies like to argue.

Those are our biggest rivals and the teams we judge and compare ourselves to.

You live in a binary world. Multiple things can be true at once:

1. Nuss wasn't the main problem.
2. He had a lot going against him
3. He was overhyped to start the year and has struggled (healthy or injured) against the big opponents
4. He is talented and makes some good throws, but mostly leaves a lot to be desired.
Posted by RB10
Member since Nov 2010
51829 posts
Posted on 1/30/26 at 12:17 pm to
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You don't seem to understand what the term "above average" is either because stat padding against Nicholls, UCLA and South Alabama isn't what I judge QBs on. Or maybe you just don't watch the games and just go off of what people tell you to say.


I understand it just fine. Nuss was, at worst, an above average college QB. That would be why he’s getting looks from the NFL.

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Buddy, I never said we should put MVB in or that he's better than Nuss. I was fine with the decision to put him in, but wasn't clamoring for it. Sounds like you have trouble with reading comprehension. With the season already over at that point and playoffs out of the question, who cares what we tried? Maybe you get a spark. Maybe MVB throws 8 INTs in a row. Who gives AF at that point?


Again, even with hindsight you’re still saying this. MVB wouldn’t have provided anything. He’s not a D1 quarterback.

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Sounds like I may have struck a nerve?


I literally just repeated your post back to you. So I must have struck a nerve huh?

See how dumb you sound?

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Buddy, end of the day, it doesn't matter. I just don't think it's that far of a reach to say he's not that good of a QB and at the same time, I can also say that there are a lot of other problems other than him that didn't help.


College QBs who aren’t good don’t get looks from the NFL.

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More than one thing can be true at the same time. You just live in a very literal and binary world, and don't understand nuance.




No. You’re just posting stupid shite that makes no sense. You’ve already contradicted yourself several times and backtracked on statements.

It’s also hilarious because you are the one acting like there are two levels for QBs, great or terrible.

We get it. You don’t like Nuss and think he’s a bad QB. You can be stupid and incorrect if you want to be.
This post was edited on 1/30/26 at 12:24 pm
Posted by OzChuffnugg
Baton Rouge
Member since Jul 2010
1657 posts
Posted on 1/30/26 at 12:18 pm to
Nuss's problem was that crook who used LSU to bank roll his golfing hobby and then used anger and frustration during the game to show face and pretend like he cared. Nuss is skyrocketing back up the draft boards. We will find out in time the disservice Brain Crook Kelly did for his career.
Posted by epbart
new york city
Member since Mar 2005
3267 posts
Posted on 1/30/26 at 12:26 pm to
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He wasn't all that great last year. n the 2024 games against A&M, Bama, Florida and Ole Miss, he was barely completing 50% of his passes with 7 TDs and 7 INTs.

That's not great.


Not a great argument... Watch this: Google, "what were Joe Burrow's worst statistical games at LSU in 2018?"

AI summary:
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In his first year as LSU's starting quarterback in 2018, Joe Burrow's "worst" statistical games were characterized by low completion percentages and limited passing yards, often against top SEC defenses, as he was still acclimating to the Tigers' offense.
Based on his 2018 game log, here are his statistically worst performances:

* vs. Mississippi State (Oct 20, 2018): This was arguably his worst game, with Burrow completing only 16-of-28 passes (57.1%) for 129 yards and one interception. Burrow himself called the first half of this game "the worst half of football I've ever played in my entire life".

* vs. Alabama (Nov 3, 2018): In a 29-0 loss, Burrow completed 18-of-35 passes (51.4%) for 184 yards and zero touchdowns.

* vs. Florida (Oct 6, 2018): In a 27-19 loss, he threw for 191 yards, one touchdown, and two interceptions while failing to complete 50% of his passes (19-of-38). (note by epbart: ESPN actually lists his stats as 0 TDs)

* Early Season (First 3 Games): In his first three games of 2018 (vs. Miami, Southeastern Louisiana, Auburn), Burrow failed to complete 50% of his passes in any contest, passing for a combined 540 yards.


Like Nuss, he barely threw 50%.

Let's look at TDs and INTs. Against Bama, UF & Ms State, Burrow had 0 TDs and 4 INTs. (If you toss in a few other games like UGA, Miami, LaTech... it remains at 0 TDs and 4 INTs.) It's dubious, at best, to claim this is better than 7 TDs and 7 INTs by Nuss in his 4 biggest games.

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I just don't get people like you that come in to blindly defend the guy like you have stock in him when he's essentially just been an average QB during his tenure here and we have clear evidence of that.


If you re-read my first post and this post, you will not see a blind defense of anything. I have no problem admitting I don't know anything. What I'm doing is pointing out-- very specifically-- how your argument is deficient.

Cherry-picking Nuss stats in 2024 against top comp to say he was average at best (someone else pointed out he isn't "abysmal" already) is meaningless in the context of saying he couldn't make an improvement in year 2 as a starter. He wasn't healthy enough to know. Burrow seemed average to abysmal against top comp in 2018 as well-- if you're just looking at stats.

I didn't watch the recent Nuss interview discussing the injury, but it:

1) was obvious to anyone watching that he was not capable of driving the ball the same way he did the year before... off the top of my head, it seemed many of his long pass attempts were underthrown. This wasn't a function of decision making.

2) made sense when reports of his torso injury came out early/mid-season. And also made sense why he had to be benched even though Van Buren wasn't an upgrade.

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I think it's disingenuous of you to not look at his whole body of work and just focus on this year.


I'm looking at it objectively... He had an inconsistent, but promising 2024 season. Even you said he had some good moments (your words):
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He made some throws that wowed us and he obviously is very talented. He played well down the stretch against some middle of the pack teams.

I never expected him to measure up to Daniels (he wasn't as dynamic and didn't quite have the deep pretty ball Daniels developed). And I didn't expect him to measure up to Burrow (he wasn't as ruthless, didn't have the trio of Chase, Jefferson & Marshall to throw to, didn't have the Ensminger/Joe Brady offense, or the Joe Moore award winning o-line to protect him).

If he had remained healthy, I do think he would've had a respectable improvement over year one. We probably would've beat Ole Miss since that game was close, and maybe would've changed the results of one or two other games. But the team was too flawed overall-- especially with the coaching and scheme-- to do much aside from getting to a better bowl game.

Your premise per your thread title:
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Nuss's problem wasn't getting hurt.

is just objectively irrational. He was hurt. It was apparent.

It's a shame because he was a pretty talented player (you agreed to that already). Between his health and the circumstances of the other offensive flaws, it just played out so that he didn't have a chance to grow into his potential. That's all. There is nothing disingenuous about this take.
Posted by Sheriff Brackett
St. Petersburg, FL
Member since Oct 2024
387 posts
Posted on 1/30/26 at 12:55 pm to
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I understand it just fine. Nuss was, at worst, an above average college QB. That would be why he’s getting looks from the NFL.


Yeah you're right. Because the NFL isn't littered with drafted players that scouts drooled over and thought would pan out but never did. Ohh wait.....

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Again, even with hindsight you’re still saying this. MVB wouldn’t have provided anything. He’s not a D1 quarterback.


You keep bringing up hindsight. What the frick are you talking about? I didn't need to have hindsight after the A&M game to know that we sucked this year and the season was over. There was nothing left to play for. MVB is awful. He is not better than Nuss. Never was and never will be. But I didn't care that we put him in the Bama game at the time. What are you not understanding about this?

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I literally just repeated your post back to you. So I must have struck a nerve huh?

See how dumb you sound?


No, you got your panties in a wad the first time I said it and now you're addressing it again. You're the one acting like a school girl about it

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College QBs who aren’t good don’t get looks from the NFL.


This just isn't true. You can get drafted based off of talent alone (see Anthony Richardson) I wish Nuss the best. I said in the OP that I hope he proves me wrong. Maybe it pans out, maybe it doesn't. I wouldn't waste a draft pick on him, but I'm sure you would probably give up 4 1st rounders just to move up for him.

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No. You’re just posting stupid shite that makes no sense. You’ve already contradicted yourself several times and backtracked on statements.

It’s also hilarious because you are the one acting like there are two levels for QBs, great or terrible.

We get it. You don’t like Nuss and think he’s a bad QB. You can be stupid and incorrect if you want to be.


Buddy, you're the one that thinks a QB went 7 TDs, 7 INTs and completed 53% of his passes in games that mattered when "healthy" is above average. Which is laughable. But yeah, I should really listen to you're opinion though!!

You have failed to provide any evidence to validate your argument other than just say idiotic things like "YOU'RE STUPID" or "YOU DON"T KNOW FOOTBALL" because that's what all you dumbass Nuss fans do. Can't argue any point, so you just try and call everyone stupid and make yourself the loudest voice in the room
Posted by RB10
Member since Nov 2010
51829 posts
Posted on 1/30/26 at 1:09 pm to
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Yeah you're right. Because the NFL isn't littered with drafted players that scouts drooled over and thought would pan out but never did. Ohh wait.....


And still, they weren’t bad college QBs.

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You keep bringing up hindsight. What the frick are you talking about? I didn't need to have hindsight after the A&M game to know that we sucked this year and the season was over. There was nothing left to play for. MVB is awful. He is not better than Nuss. Never was and never will be. But I didn't care that we put him in the Bama game at the time. What are you not understanding about this?


I’m pointing out the fact that you’re stupid for STILL wanting MVB to be brought in against Bama.

Color me shocked you don’t grasp that.

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No, you got your panties in a wad the first time I said it and now you're addressing it again. You're the one acting like a school girl about it


You’re the one who keeps bringing it up

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This just isn't true. You can get drafted based off of talent alone (see Anthony Richardson) I wish Nuss the best. I said in the OP that I hope he proves me wrong. Maybe it pans out, maybe it doesn't. I wouldn't waste a draft pick on him, but I'm sure you would probably give up 4 1st rounders just to move up for him.


Oh man. Well if internet user Sheriff retard wouldn’t waste a draft pick on him, who would?

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Buddy, you're the one that thinks a QB went 7 TDs, 7 INTs and completed 53% of his passes in games that mattered when "healthy" is above average. Which is laughable. But yeah, I should really listen to you're opinion though!!




Cherry picking games is certainly a choice, especially considering you’re the one who keeps telling everyone to look at his “whole body of work” and not just the games he “padded stats” in.

So, in your opinion, we should only take into consideration 33% of his games. Seems smart.

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You have failed to provide any evidence to validate your argument other than just say idiotic things like "YOU'RE STUPID" or "YOU DON"T KNOW FOOTBALL" because that's what all you dumbass Nuss fans do. Can't argue any point, so you just try and call everyone stupid and make yourself the loudest voice in the room




Of the two of us, I’m the only one that’s provided a full picture of his stats in the games you’re talking about. All you keep pointing to is his completion percentage.

Also, I never once said anything about “knowing football”. I did call you stupid, mainly because you’ve shown everyone that you’re stupid.
Posted by Sheriff Brackett
St. Petersburg, FL
Member since Oct 2024
387 posts
Posted on 1/30/26 at 1:11 pm to
Not a great argument... Watch this: Google, "what were Joe Burrow's worst statistical games at LSU in 2018?"

Yes, that's true, but what did Burrow do after 2018? He had the greatest season of all time in 2019.

What did Jayden do the year after he struggled in the first half of 2022? He won a Heisman.

What did Nuss end up doing? Basically, remained the same QB that he is. I'm not saying he had to turn into Superman like those guys, but I think unfair expectations were put on him that I don't think were necessarily warranted.

The whole point is that both Burrow and Daniels took their game to the next level at minimum. With Nuss, it never did and we saw the same mistakes that plagued him his first year.

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Cherry-picking Nuss stats in 2024 against top comp to say he was average at best (someone else pointed out he isn't "abysmal" already) is meaningless in the context of saying he couldn't make an improvement in year 2 as a starter. He wasn't healthy enough to know. Burrow seemed average to abysmal against top comp in 2018 as well-- if you're just looking at stats.

I didn't watch the recent Nuss interview discussing the injury, but it:

1) was obvious to anyone watching that he was not capable of driving the ball the same way he did the year before... off the top of my head, it seemed many of his long pass attempts were underthrown. This wasn't a function of decision making.

2) made sense when reports of his torso injury came out early/mid-season. And also made sense why he had to be benched even though Van Buren wasn't an upgrade.


I mean he looked fine when he ran a QB sneak against Southeastern at the goal line and was dancing with his teammates.

He didn't seem to lose any zip on the ball throwing into traffic against Ole Miss or throwing across his body against South Carolina or Florida.

I'm not saying that he didn't have an injury, but I think he's just always been who he is regardless. He never really wanted to step up into the pocket, made a multitude of bad decisions in big games , but would show flashes of his potential.

Not trying to knock the guy, but I just don't think he was ever going to be the guy with the jam everyone thought he was going to be coming into the season. And when I get adamant about it, it's because of the other Nuss fanatics that literally scream bloody murder any time you question anything about him.

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Posted by RB10
Member since Nov 2010
51829 posts
Posted on 1/30/26 at 1:12 pm to
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Not a great argument


Sums up every post you’ve made

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Not trying to knock the guy, but I just don't think he was ever going to be the guy with the jam everyone thought he was going to be coming into the season. And when I get adamant about it, it's because of the other Nuss fanatics that literally scream bloody murder any time you question anything about him.


“Not trying to knock the guy, just want to argue everyone down that he’s trash and was always trash.”

You’ve nailed it
This post was edited on 1/30/26 at 1:14 pm
Posted by BoominSchous
Houston
Member since Nov 2024
293 posts
Posted on 1/30/26 at 1:13 pm to
Wrong about what? He was not good and will not be good in the NFL. Do you think something came out that validates your opinion?
Posted by KamaCausey_LSU
Member since Apr 2013
17388 posts
Posted on 1/30/26 at 1:18 pm to
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College QBs who aren’t good don’t get looks from the NFL.

Anthony Richardson was a terrible QB in college and went #4.

Nuss has always looked great in drills and practice. Then once the lights come on he regresses.

That said, some GM is going to see him arm strength and think "We can fix him." I think 2nd round isn't out of the question considering the lack of high tier offensive prospects this year.
Posted by Sheriff Brackett
St. Petersburg, FL
Member since Oct 2024
387 posts
Posted on 1/30/26 at 1:26 pm to
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And still, they weren’t bad college QBs.


What you fail to grasp is that I never said Nuss wasn't talented. And talent alone can get you drafted. Doesn't matter what your college career looked like.

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I’m pointing out the fact that you’re stupid for STILL wanting MVB to be brought in against Bama.

Color me shocked you don’t grasp that.


Never did I say I wanted MVB to go into the game dip shite. I just said I was fine with Nuss getting benched when it happened like the majority of our fan base was because he had sucked up to that point. You probably cried when it happened though.

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You’re the one who keeps bringing it up


I made an off hand comment the first time, and you felt the need to immediately address it. Dunno what to tell you, but whatever.

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Oh man. Well if internet user Sheriff retard wouldn’t waste a draft pick on him, who would?


If I had to guess, probably at least half of the GMs out there looking for QBs who want to keep their job.

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Cherry picking games is certainly a choice, especially considering you’re the one who keeps telling everyone to look at his “whole body of work” and not just the games he “padded stats” in.

So, in your opinion, we should only take into consideration 33% of his games. Seems smart.


Yeah, you're right. Cherry picking the third of the season in back-to-back years against opponents that actually matter and are the only opponents on the schedule we care about winning against. We should just be like you and suck him off for all those TDs he threw against Nicholls, Grambling, Southeastern, etc.

Seems smart.

Posted by RB10
Member since Nov 2010
51829 posts
Posted on 1/30/26 at 1:35 pm to
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What you fail to grasp is that I never said Nuss wasn't talented. And talent alone can get you drafted. Doesn't matter what your college career looked like.


Only that he’s a bad QB who was “abysmal” in 3 games, which is stupid.

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Never did I say I wanted MVB to go into the game dip shite. I just said I was fine with Nuss getting benched when it happened like the majority of our fan base was because he had sucked up to that point. You probably cried when it happened though.




Wanting Nuss benched is calling for the back you fricking retard.

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I made an off hand comment the first time, and you felt the need to immediately address it. Dunno what to tell you, but whatever.


I’ve addressed everything in your posts genius.

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If I had to guess, probably at least half of the GMs out there looking for QBs who want to keep their job.


Don’t guess. You already look stupid enough.

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Yeah, you're right. Cherry picking the third of the season in back-to-back years against opponents that actually matter and are the only opponents on the schedule we care about winning against. We should just be like you and suck him off for all those TDs he threw against Nicholls, Grambling, Southeastern, etc. Seems smart.


Again, cherry picking any game set is stupid. It’s especially stupid coming from someone who wants everyone to consider his “whole body of work”.

These are your words:

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I think it's disingenuous of you to not look at his whole body of work and just focus on this year.


It takes a special kind of stupid to say this in a thread you created to trash Nuss because he was bad in a subset of 3 games in 2024.

I mean, seriously.
Posted by Sheriff Brackett
St. Petersburg, FL
Member since Oct 2024
387 posts
Posted on 1/30/26 at 1:52 pm to
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Only that he’s a bad QB who was “abysmal” in 3 games, which is stupid.


Buddy, you're the one that is glazing him for having games where he is throwing 6 TDs against Nicholls. He looked bad against Ole Miss this year and last. He looked bad against A&M this year and last year. He looked bad against Florida this year and last year. He looked bad against Bama this year and last year.

He had 10 TDs and 9 INTs in 8 games against those 4 teams. Two of the TDs he had against A&M and Bama were literal garbage time TDs, so basically he had 8 TDs, 9 INTs. But yeah, you're right. He's above average. He's incredible. Lmfao.

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Wanting Nuss benched is calling for the back you fricking retard.


I literally never said I wanted him benched or called for the backup. What part of that don't understand. Can you read? Being fine with a decision isn't wanting someone benched or calling for the backup dipshit. Not surprised you don't understand though. It's okay hoss, we'll get through this.

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Again, cherry picking any game set is stupid. It’s especially stupid coming from someone who wants everyone to consider his “whole body of work”.

These are your words:


Easy Forrest Gump. Playing against a team like Southeastern is not the same or equal to playing Florida or Ole Miss or Bama or A&M. If you think it is, then you are an even bigger dipshit than I thought.
Posted by RB10
Member since Nov 2010
51829 posts
Posted on 1/30/26 at 2:02 pm to
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Buddy, you're the one that is glazing him for having games where he is throwing 6 TDs against Nicholls. He looked bad against Ole Miss this year and last. He looked bad against A&M this year and last year. He looked bad against Florida this year and last year. He looked bad against Bama this year and last year.

He had 10 TDs and 9 INTs in 8 games against those 4 teams. Two of the TDs he had against A&M and Bama were literal garbage time TDs, so basically he had 8 TDs, 9 INTs. But yeah, you're right. He's above average. He's incredible. Lmfao.


Saying he wasn’t abysmal isn’t “glazing him”. I really am sorry you don’t understand what that word means. I know it’s a tricky one.

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I literally never said I wanted him benched or called for the backup. What part of that don't understand. Can you read? Being fine with a decision isn't wanting someone benched or calling for the backup dipshit. Not surprised you don't understand though. It's okay hoss, we'll get through this.


You do understand that words have meaning, correct? Once again, your words:

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Hell man, midway through the 3rd quarter of the Bama game, I didn't care what they did. Putting in MVB was at least something different. So what if it didn't work out? Season was already over at that point. I certainly didn't expect MVB to come in and light it up


^^^
That is calling for Nuss to be benched, genius.

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Easy Forrest Gump. Playing against a team like Southeastern is not the same or equal to playing Florida or Ole Miss or Bama or A&M. If you think it is, then you are an even bigger dipshit than I thought.


So you want us to use his “whole body of work” but only the games that you deem worthy?

Once again, words have meanings. The word “whole” means all, not just some, genius.
Posted by Sheriff Brackett
St. Petersburg, FL
Member since Oct 2024
387 posts
Posted on 1/30/26 at 2:20 pm to
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Saying he wasn’t abysmal isn’t “glazing him”. I really am sorry you don’t understand what that word means. I know it’s a tricky one.


If you think that kind of play is above average when it comes against our biggest rivals in the biggest games of the season, then I would definitely put that under the glazing category.

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^^^
That is calling for Nuss to be benched, genius.


How does "I didn't care what they did." equate to "You're calling for him to be benched" One is actively pushing for someone to be benched and another is being indifferent (which means not caring either way FYI). Let's up another W for I Am Sam over here

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So you want us to use his “whole body of work” but only the games that you deem worthy?

Once again, words have meanings. The word “whole” means all, not just some, genius.


I'm using multiple games in two years that he started for us against our toughest opponents. Almost 40% of his games he started the last two years. No one cares about how he did against Nicholls, Tech, UCLA or Southeastern like you do. They care about what matters when you go up against the big boys. Again, if you want to give Nuss his flowers for stat padding against those teams, have at it big guy.
Posted by RB10
Member since Nov 2010
51829 posts
Posted on 1/30/26 at 2:24 pm to
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If you think that kind of play is above average when it comes against our biggest rivals in the biggest games of the season, then I would definitely put that under the glazing category.


That’s because you’re stupid. We’ve already established that.

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I'm using multiple games in two years that he started for us against our toughest opponents. Almost 40% of his games he started the last two years. No one cares about how he did against Nicholls, Tech, UCLA or Southeastern like you do. They care about what matters when you go up against the big boys. Again, if you want to give Nuss his flowers for stat padding against those teams, have at it big guy.




So you admit you’re using LESS THAN HALF of his games, yet you tell everyone else to use his “whole body of work”.

You really are a genius.

I’m done with you. I’m worried your stupid is going to rub off.
This post was edited on 1/30/26 at 2:26 pm
Posted by Gus007
TN
Member since Jul 2018
14417 posts
Posted on 1/30/26 at 2:30 pm to
Explain, after your critique, how Nuss was at the top of charts of QBs eligible for the draft after 2024.?
He was rated the top QB coming back for 2025.

Either you or NFL Talent Scouts are in error.
Posted by White Tiger
Dallas
Member since Jul 2007
15675 posts
Posted on 1/30/26 at 3:14 pm to
He never played well with any consistency
Posted by nicholastiger
Member since Jan 2004
54828 posts
Posted on 1/30/26 at 3:52 pm to
Now they trying to spin his subpar performance on LSU doctors
they doing anything they can to salvage his draft stock

notice how all of this is coming out during senior bowl week not when he was benched against Alabama

any college athlete can go and get a second opinion if they don't agree with a doctor's diagnosis

if Brooks symptoms weren't getting any better why didn't he go see another specialist

if Nuss symptoms weren't getting any better why not go see another doctor

Posted by Sheriff Brackett
St. Petersburg, FL
Member since Oct 2024
387 posts
Posted on 1/30/26 at 4:03 pm to
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So you admit you’re using LESS THAN HALF of his games, yet you tell everyone else to use his “whole body of work”.

You really are a genius.

I’m done with you. I’m worried your stupid is going to rub off.


Yeah you're right. I'm going to suck Nuss off like you for all those great games against South Alabama, Nicholls, Southeastern, Tech, Baylor and 6-6 Oklahoma!! frick the important games on the schedule against our biggest rivals and ranked opponents when it actually matters


You probably think BK should still be the coach because he's has a .700 win percentage here in four years lmfao. But that wouldn't surprise me because you literally have the same IQ as Simple Jack.
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