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re: Old JaMarcus
Posted on 8/3/08 at 1:50 pm to Indiana Tiger
Posted on 8/3/08 at 1:50 pm to Indiana Tiger
Good points, Indiana Tiger......but you better watch out.....you're about to be labeled racist with your post 
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Posted on 8/3/08 at 1:50 pm to puttytat
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You're the one that is challenging and labeling people that happen to disagree with you....heaven forbid
and youre the one yelling at people because they disagreed with you....heaven forbid
Posted on 8/3/08 at 1:51 pm to Choupique19
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Some people criticized Lafell for not leaping high between two guys and catching it,
no, Lafell jumped to early. Miles said it to the gridiron club the next week. He said that was the situation they were hoping for all game. One on one coverage with a big height advantage and JR did exactly what he was suppose to do. Miles said that Lafell was young and he would learn from the situation to become a better receiver.
Posted on 8/3/08 at 1:52 pm to puttytat
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Good points, Indiana Tiger......but you better watch out.....you're about to be labeled racist with your post
as long as he doesn't call JR stupid he won't have that problem.
Posted on 8/3/08 at 1:53 pm to latiger09
....I disagree with you....boo hoo! Guess I am "yelling" at people because I put two words in caps??......puhlease.....
Posted on 8/3/08 at 1:54 pm to TigerBait1127
"as long as he doesn't call JR stupid he won't have that problem."
oh...okay
oh...okay
Posted on 8/3/08 at 1:57 pm to puttytat
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....I disagree with you....boo hoo! Guess I am "yelling" at people because I put two words in caps??......puhlease.....
yes, given the fact that is generally accepted that typing in caps is the equivalent of yelling on a message board, you were yelling. do you really not understand this?
Posted on 8/3/08 at 1:58 pm to TigerBait1127
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Miles said it to the gridiron club the next week. He said that was the situation they were hoping for all game. One on one coverage with a big height advantage and JR did exactly what he was suppose to do.
Here's my take. Les Miles was just publically showing support for his QB. Nobody wants a QB controversy (see GB Packers). In 2005, JR should have been pulled at times for Matt Flynn, but no coach wants a QB controversy, so it was Jamarcus' games to win or lose. In 2006, at that time of the season, LSU was 1-2 in conference and Miles didn't want a QB controversy. If that was one on one coverage, what was that train that laid out Lafell.
I do think that Jamarcus showed the rest of the season (and Flynn last year) that JR was the better QB.
Posted on 8/3/08 at 1:59 pm to TigerBait1127
Even with the simplistic conclusions that Flynn was better because WVU beat Pitt, and Russell was dumb because he's black, you can't ignore this simple logic:
Russell was 10-2 in '06
Flynn was 9-2 in '07
And Flynn had his shitty (but not suprising) performances:
vs. UK: 17-35, 130 yds, 1 TD, 1 INT
vs. Bama: 24-44 w/ 3 INTs
vs. USC: 8-19, 77 yards, 1 INT, 1 TD
vs. mighty Tulane: 16-29, 256 yds, 1 INT
And these weren't on the road versus top 10 teams like Florida and Tennessee.
Russell was 10-2 in '06
Flynn was 9-2 in '07
And Flynn had his shitty (but not suprising) performances:
vs. UK: 17-35, 130 yds, 1 TD, 1 INT
vs. Bama: 24-44 w/ 3 INTs
vs. USC: 8-19, 77 yards, 1 INT, 1 TD
vs. mighty Tulane: 16-29, 256 yds, 1 INT
And these weren't on the road versus top 10 teams like Florida and Tennessee.
This post was edited on 8/3/08 at 2:01 pm
Posted on 8/3/08 at 2:00 pm to latiger09
....are you for real???......how old are you, really?? You can't be older than 15......the mentality is just non-existent
Posted on 8/3/08 at 2:02 pm to Choupique19
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Les Miles was just publically showing support for his QB.
it wasn't a public meeting and anyone with eyes can see he jumped to early.
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In 2005, JR should have been pulled at times for Matt Flynn, but no coach wants a QB controversy, so it was Jamarcus' games to win or lose.
probably so, but only because he was playing with a torn wrist ligament. Flynn probably should haven been pulled in 2007.
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. In 2006, at that time of the season, LSU was 1-2 in conference and Miles didn't want a QB controversy. If that was one on one coverage, what was that train that laid out Lafell.
you're kidding me right? The safety was not covering Lafell on that play. He was in a zone and reacted to the ball. It takes a very fast safety to get to that kind of throw and he did. It wouldn't have mattered if Lafell jumps later. He was hit after the int
Posted on 8/3/08 at 2:03 pm to puttytat
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....are you for real???......
what dont you understand? what other reason is there for you to use caps in only portions of your post?
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how old are you, really?? You can't be older than 15......the mentality is just non-existent
if you think it takes a 15 year old to know what common internet message board behavior is, then i guess that means im 15. but then, how old does that make you, given the fact that you apparently didnt know it?
Posted on 8/3/08 at 2:04 pm to mattz1122
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And these weren't on the road versus top 10 teams like Florida and Tennessee.
and #5 Arkansas, and #3 Auburn
Posted on 8/3/08 at 2:05 pm to TigerBait1127
I knew the rant was a special place but I can't believe these words were actually uttered:
TMartin>P.Manning. Who's to say T Martin couldn't have been as good of a QB as Manning if he'd been given the time to develop.
TMartin>P.Manning. Who's to say T Martin couldn't have been as good of a QB as Manning if he'd been given the time to develop.
This post was edited on 8/3/08 at 2:08 pm
Posted on 8/3/08 at 2:07 pm to TigerBait1127
But it's the Florida and Tennessee games that the Russell haters constantly bring up. As though a road game versus a top 10 team is easy...
And I wanted to point out that Flynn fricking sucked versus teams like Tulane and Kentucky.
And I wanted to point out that Flynn fricking sucked versus teams like Tulane and Kentucky.
Posted on 8/3/08 at 2:07 pm to tigerstros
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Oh and to answer teenie bopper, Don't really give a shite who was supposedly better, however no one can question that Flynn accomplished more in one year of starting (SEC Title, NCAA title) than Russell did in 2 and a half years of starting(SEC west title). And also don't forget to throw in Flynn's domolition of Miami in the Peach Bowl making his first start ever! Again, I don't care who is supposed to be better, rather, what the team accomplishes under any QB.
i knew you would say it. you are such a fricktard its hilarious
Posted on 8/3/08 at 2:09 pm to TigerBait1127
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probably so, but only because he was playing with a torn wrist ligament. Flynn probably should haven been pulled in 2007.
80% Jamarcus < 100% Flynn
100% Jamarcus > 100% Flynn (Flynn did have some bad games last year)
But there's always excuses for Jamarcus. He was hurt, the receiver jumped to early (which he got clobbered as he landed, and had he timed it right it's reasonable to think that he could have not held onto the ball with that hit - did you watch the clip?), or Dwayne Bowe didn't make a super catch to bail him out, Jimbo Fisher's fault.
Here's a crazy thought, do you think that JR needed to throw a moon ball to Jacob Hester on 4th down at Auburn. I think a little loft, not a moon ball, would have gotten the ball to Hester quicker and there would have been no loose ball to reveiw in the booth.
This post was edited on 8/3/08 at 2:12 pm
Posted on 8/3/08 at 2:12 pm to Choupique19
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But it's always and excuse for Jamarcus. He was hurt, the receiver jumped to early (which he got clobbered as he landed, and had he timed it right it's reasonale to think that he could have not held onto the ball with that hit - did you watch the clip?), or Dwayne Bowe didn't make a super catch to bail him out, Jimbo Fisher's fault.
Should Bowe not have caught the ball?
Should your #1 receiver not catch this ball?
and yes, i just watched the clip and the Safety was late to the ball. It was a great pass, and Lafell jumped 2 seconds to early. He probably doesn't even get hit if he jumps it right, and the ball definitely doesn't get intercepted
Nelson misjudged the ball on the play and was late. Lafell was running stride for stride with the cb, and made a huge mistake by jumping about 2 seconds to early
This post was edited on 8/3/08 at 2:20 pm
Posted on 8/3/08 at 2:14 pm to Choupique19
You keeping nitpicking Russell's mistakes - and he surely made them.
But do you really want us to go back and find ALL of the dumb mistakes Flynn that made last season? Like versus Bama, Tulane, UK, etc
He made so many more idiotic decisions than Russell, and against lesser teams.
But do you really want us to go back and find ALL of the dumb mistakes Flynn that made last season? Like versus Bama, Tulane, UK, etc
He made so many more idiotic decisions than Russell, and against lesser teams.
Posted on 8/3/08 at 2:18 pm to TigerBait1127
Good clip of the 3rd pick. Bowe is to blame for that one, however, the other pick that I am referring to is one that Bowe had to jump up in the middle of the field (and a couple of UF defenders), about 15-20 yards downfield, and the ball went off of his hands.
I thought that Miles said that Lafell jumped too early. The safety is going to reach Lafell at the same time, no matter when he jumps. If Lafell jumps later, then he may keep the ball from being picked by the cornerback running with him, but the safety is going to lay him out and probably send the ball into the stands.
I thought that Miles said that Lafell jumped too early. The safety is going to reach Lafell at the same time, no matter when he jumps. If Lafell jumps later, then he may keep the ball from being picked by the cornerback running with him, but the safety is going to lay him out and probably send the ball into the stands.
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