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re: Overrated: Attrition on the OL
Posted on 9/28/09 at 9:25 pm to SlowFlowPro
Posted on 9/28/09 at 9:25 pm to SlowFlowPro
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hitt has started since 2007. he isn't going anywhere unless he dies
which brings up an interesting question. Has anyone other than Jai Eugene had his starting position taken away after he had become a full time starter?
Posted on 9/28/09 at 9:27 pm to Elleshoe
quote:we have ran the same offense for like 3 years now. They have about 45 game films to choose from. A shitload more if you follow crowton back
ahh obviously all 4 teams know...
Posted on 9/28/09 at 9:29 pm to tigabait01
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Has anyone other than Jai Eugene had his starting position taken away after he had become a full time starter?
jacob hester, 2006
keiland williams, 2007
jarrett lee, 2008
Posted on 9/28/09 at 9:31 pm to SlowFlowPro
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hitt has started since 2007. he isn't going anywhere unless he dies
Jarvis was getting snaps late in 07 for a reason
Posted on 9/28/09 at 10:01 pm to sixer
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Well, Hitt did it when he was a sophomore, and he should be more powerful now as a senior, so I don't understand why he's not doing it now. This really baffles me.
Could it be because they're outnumbered and have to try and block more than one defender?
Posted on 9/28/09 at 10:20 pm to jonestohamilton28-8
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Could it be because they're outnumbered and have to try and block more than one defender?
And anyone that doesnt realize this, dont know shite. Until we can throw the ball far enough to back people out of the box, no OLine could do better.
Posted on 9/28/09 at 10:22 pm to TIsuGGER
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Until we can throw the ball far enough to back people out of the box, no OLine could do better.
uh, how did we start the 2nd half saturday?
did that help? no
Posted on 9/28/09 at 10:33 pm to SlowFlowPro
I know it isn't saying much and is pretty sad at this point but I think T-Bob is our best OL right now.
Posted on 9/28/09 at 10:35 pm to TIsuGGER
we got it man, you wanna start Lee. if I were running the team, I can't say I wouldn't do that.
Posted on 9/28/09 at 10:37 pm to GoldenBoy
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I know it isn't saying much
oh it says a lot
Posted on 9/28/09 at 10:37 pm to SlowFlowPro
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did that help? no
Really?
quote:
(10:41) Jordan Jefferson passed to Brandon LaFell for 9 yards.
(10:12) Charles Scott lost 1 yard.
(9:29) Jordan Jefferson passed incomplete to Richard Dickson.
(6:22) Keiland Williams rushed for 4 yards.
2-6-MSST45 (6:06) Jordan Jefferson passed to R.J. Jackson for 38 yards.
(5:29) Jordan Jefferson passed incomplete to Keiland Williams.
(5:15) Jordan Jefferson passed incomplete to Brandon LaFell.
(5:09) Jordan Jefferson rushed for 5 yards.
(10:13) Jordan Jefferson passed to Terrance Toliver for 12 yards.
(9:42) Jordan Jefferson rushed for 17 yards.
(9:04) Zach Smith sacked Jordan Jefferson for a loss of -7 yards.
(8:29) Jordan Jefferson passed incomplete.
(8:21) Jordan Jefferson passed incomplete to Chris Mitchell
(5:48) Charles Scott rushed for 4 yards.
(5:15) Jordan Jefferson passed to Richard Dickson for 6 yards.
(4:38) Keiland Williams rushed for 2 yards.
(4:12) Jordan Jefferson passed incomplete to Keiland Williams.
(4:07) Jordan Jefferson passed incomplete to Brandon LaFell.
Looks to me like we tried, but just couldnt deliver. We put the ball in JJs hand 14 times, and rushed only 4 times in the 2nd half. JJ should have brought the pain, but didnt. Other teams are going to do the exact same thing.
Posted on 9/28/09 at 10:41 pm to ATLTiger
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we got it man, you wanna start Lee
nobody is gonna bench a 4-0 QB. I would just like to see what JL could do with a few series
Posted on 9/29/09 at 1:34 am to jonestohamilton28-8
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Could it be because they're outnumbered and have to try and block more than one defender?
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And anyone that doesnt realize this, dont know shite. Until we can throw the ball far enough to back people out of the box, no OLine could do better.
No, he is getting beat by one man. When extra defenders are in the box, they go get the ball carrier. I am not trying to slam Hitt, I like him and know he can play better. He has showed it. But ULL & Vandy DTs beat him one one one a lot. I understand you are trying to take the blame off of the O-line and pin it on the QB, but if you want an honest view of the situation, you are going to have to get rid of that bias. The O-line is getting beat on pass protection too. Thats not to say that Jefferson can't play better. He can, and I am confident that he and the O-line will play better in Athens.
This post was edited on 9/29/09 at 1:46 am
Posted on 9/29/09 at 3:21 am to TIsuGGER
Until JJ can CONSISTENTLY throw the ball teams will continue to stack the box and shut down the run. The O-line can only do so much. Weight has noting to do with blocking technique. Check out the Broncos all those years under Shannahan. Always undersized, but always dominate!
Posted on 9/29/09 at 8:05 am to cajunx2
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Check out the Broncos all those years under Shannahan. Always undersized, but always dominate!
zone blocking
our guys have failed at zone blocking so far
Posted on 9/29/09 at 8:22 am to SlowFlowPro
So Slo, what do you think the problem with the OL is?
Posted on 9/29/09 at 8:31 am to LSUJuice
talent, bulk, and mixing zone and man blocking schemes. the OL is just a mess
i mean i didn't have to say the last part. USL handled up on our OL
and it wasn't b/c they had "9 men in the box"
i mean i didn't have to say the last part. USL handled up on our OL
and it wasn't b/c they had "9 men in the box"
Posted on 9/29/09 at 8:43 am to SlowFlowPro
SFP, teams are routinely stacking all 11 men in the box against us. its damn near impossible to run against that but Corch Myles knows its still important to keep them honest by running btwn the tackles
Posted on 9/29/09 at 8:46 am to SlowFlowPro
I'm tired of the "predictable playcalling" complaint. I don't even know what that means.
Posted on 9/29/09 at 8:59 am to SlowFlowPro
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i mean i didn't have to say the last part. USL handled up on our OL
36 attempts
164 yards
4.6 y/c
C. Scott 12/63 5.3
K. Williams 10/41 4.1
J. Jefferson 8/25 3.1
R. Shepard 4/21 5.3
T. Holliday 2/14 7.0
Team 36/164 4.6
and we were up by 21pts with 10:53 in the 3rd and were on cruise control
I think you like to make shite up to fit your argument
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