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The "Clinton killed a guy, I thought it was a matter of record" gets me every time.
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claimed that war is never justified 

He didn't claim that, but he should have chosen his words more carefully when speaking of unjust war.

Edit, there's a good article in THE PILLAR that discusses the nuances:

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But beyond that, it has also sparked debate among Catholics, some of whom have asked whether Leo’s rhetoric on war actually has become imprecise: Whether it endorses a kind of total pacifism that seems at odds with the Church’s “just war” tradition, and requires Catholics to renounce any kind of participation in any kind of armed conflict.

On Palm Sunday, some Catholics say, Pope Leo created confusion, again with remarks that gave the appearance of pacifism — namely, that the Lord “does not listen to the prayers of those who wage war, but rejects them.”

Some Catholics, including Vance, have asked whether God heard the prayers of the Americans who waged war against the Nazis to liberate Jews in concentration camps, or whether the Almighty rejected the prayers of the Union soldiers who fought to free slaves.

In short, while Vance’s remarks about theological precision seem especially provocative coming from a vice president, Vance is not the only Catholic to ask, in one way or another, whether Pope Leo is advancing a kind of development of doctrine, which would eschew the Church’s conventional just war doctrine, itself worked on by the pope’s own spiritual mentor, St. Augustine of Hippo.

In fact, even among Catholics who believe that America’s Iranian incursion is clearly unjust, there have been questions in many corners about the absolutist way that the pontiff seems to speak about warfare.

The question has been raised so prominently that USCCB doctrinal chair Bishop James Massa issued a statement Wednesday, aiming to clarify that the pope’s recent remarks are meant to evoke and apply just war theory, not ignore it.

But to some Catholics, that seems a bit counterintuitive — when the pope says God doesn’t listen to those waging war, is it ignoring those waging war justly?

Theologian Matthew Shadle has done recently some interesting thinking on this question.

Shadle points out that in recent decades, papal and Vatican rhetoric has made a kind of linguistic distinction — using the term “war” to “describe aggressive or offensive war” and the term “legitimate self defense” to mean just acts of combat, measures of last resort by which nations and their peoples defend themselves against aggressors.

In this schema, “war” is de facto unjustified, and “legitimate self-defense” is always just.
I'm catholic.
Still support trump overall.
Don't support the war in Iran.
Don't support trump's antics these last couple weeks.
Do support Pope Leo promoting peace, though I think his comments could have been more thought out.
The denouncing of it should go without saying. Of course it's disgusting and abhorrent. The point was that people leaving the Catholic Church over it should also apply that same standard to other institutions. But you knew that already.
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well maybe you guys should let go of that fiction, the world would be a better place

We have letters from bishops in the very early Church deferring to Rome as the Chair of Peter.

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pretty far from what peter said about himself, he was just a fellow elder in his own opinion

Christ said the Church was like a mustard seed that would grow into the largest of plants.
Well that's a longer debate/ conversation that's worth having. But here we are on this platform trading gotchas instead of trying to hear what others are saying. As Pope Leo said earlier this year, we
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“reward quick emotions and instead penalize human expressions that require more time, such as the effort to understand and reflect.”
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The Pope lives behind walls with security but says "WE" should have open borders.

Wrong. This is what the pope said about borders.

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“If people are in the United States illegally, there are ways to treat that. There are courts. There is a system of justice, I think there are a lot of problems in the system. No one has said that the United States should have open borders. I think every country has a right to determine who and how and when people enter.”
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He didn’t leave Jesus.

He left your church.



Jesus instituted the Church (which St. Paul states is the pillar and foundation of truth as well as the body of Christ) and explicitly gave it authority.
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The reason I'm a 'Recovering Catholic' is because of the BS the Pope/Vatican have done and continue to do.


You would leave the Church over some political nonsense? Seriously, put down the phone, turn off social media, go to Mass, read scripture, touch grass, spend time with Jesus. You'll be much happier. Even if we grant your premise (which i don't, but don't have time to address), don't leave Jesus because of Judas.

re: 2026 Spring Garden Thread

Posted by LSUJuice on 4/1/26 at 2:41 pm to
Plant tromboncinos. They're a winter squash variety (c. moschata), which are much more resistant to borers, but are just like summer squash if you pick them early while still tender.
I would assume it's great as long as the contract is funded. Once the contract period runs out...

re: 2026 Spring Garden Thread

Posted by LSUJuice on 3/26/26 at 11:49 am to
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small bed of asparagus.

Where are you located? I assumed we couldn't grow that down here.

re: 2026 Spring Garden Thread

Posted by LSUJuice on 3/19/26 at 11:08 am to
Ehh it's well worth the risk if you're ok with having to cover stuff. In my back yard I'm up against the clock with canopy from a sycamore that leafs out mid March and pecan the first week of April. So stuff gets in the ground in February. This year it worked out great since we had late April weather all through Feb and March. This week was a blip.

re: 2026 Spring Garden Thread

Posted by LSUJuice on 3/14/26 at 2:48 pm to
Good luck with the wind.
Maybe because it's fun to watch a team that struggles in March pull it together in April/May. The 2008 run run wouldn't have been as fun without the early struggles. Same for 2023. Maybe they'll pull it together, maybe they won't, but I'll be along for the ride. I love listening while I do stuff in the yard regardless. I won't let losing a few games ruin my spring weekends.

re: 2026 Spring Garden Thread

Posted by LSUJuice on 3/11/26 at 10:44 am to
I do. I don't think 39 for a couple hours is incredibly damaging, but supposedly it can stunt growth. Water them really well the day before too if it doesn't rain.

re: 2026 Spring Garden Thread

Posted by LSUJuice on 3/10/26 at 10:54 am to
Just plant tromboncinos and pick them early.

re: 2026 Spring Garden Thread

Posted by LSUJuice on 3/9/26 at 10:51 am to
Yeah half the fun for me is the seed starting process. Maybe I'm old and nerdy but the day the seed catalog comes in the mail is like Christmas... that and the eyeroll I get from the wife when she realizes there's a tray of dirt on top of the refrigerator.

re: 2026 Spring Garden Thread

Posted by LSUJuice on 3/4/26 at 2:29 pm to
You gonna come out in the July heat to pick them every other day?

re: 2026 Spring Garden Thread

Posted by LSUJuice on 3/3/26 at 4:08 pm to
My back yard tomatoes and beans went in 3 weeks ago, but I'm up against the clock with too much canopy once my sycamore and pecan leaf out. Took the risk and it turned out ok with a record warm February.

The off-site garden will be small this year. Just a few tomatoes seeded and also just seeded a couple watermelons. With the toddler I can only do long season one time harvest crops these days. And I'll do a whole row of sunflowers just to have something fun in the ground.