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Posted on 3/21/22 at 6:52 pm to
Posted by ElderTiger
Planet Earth
Member since Dec 2010
7731 posts
Posted on 3/21/22 at 6:52 pm to
OUTSTANDING HIRE !
Posted by cj35
Member since Jan 2014
6153 posts
Posted on 3/21/22 at 7:16 pm to
Was the inverted initials of WW, a significant role in the hiring of MM?
Posted by S
RIP Wayde
Member since Jan 2007
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Posted on 3/21/22 at 8:11 pm to


tMulberry?
Posted by LSU Jax
Gator Country Hell
Member since Sep 2006
10593 posts
Posted on 3/21/22 at 9:09 pm to
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Very meh either way. A complete crap shoot. The whole key is if he can recruit like Wade.

No it isn’t a “meh” hire at all. What a stupid arse statement.
Posted by TheDeathValley
Louisiana
Member since Sep 2010
20467 posts
Posted on 3/21/22 at 9:14 pm to
He’s at the game tonight
Posted by cj35
Member since Jan 2014
6153 posts
Posted on 3/21/22 at 9:16 pm to
The tFruit thing is so played out.

And was never humorous anyway. Just extremely lame.
Posted by ElderTiger
Planet Earth
Member since Dec 2010
7731 posts
Posted on 3/21/22 at 9:32 pm to
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Was the inverted initials of WW, a significant role in the hiring of MM?


Good stuff right there…have an upvote.
Posted by NPComb
Member since Jan 2019
28409 posts
Posted on 3/21/22 at 9:40 pm to
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Per Rothstein


Posted by Tiger in Co
On the road
Member since Mar 2022
346 posts
Posted on 3/21/22 at 11:15 pm to
If true Woodward really pussed out great hire child please
Posted by justsaygeaux2
Member since Feb 2017
2210 posts
Posted on 3/22/22 at 1:04 am to
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Was the inverted initials of WW, a significant role in the hiring of MM?


You heard about the Aggie alum who got fired from his job at the M&M factory? Got fired because he kept throwing away the W's.
Posted by GreatLakesTiger24
Member since May 2012
59621 posts
Posted on 3/22/22 at 6:28 am to


they look like a baton rouge/catholic school family
Posted by PANTHER
Bunkie
Member since Oct 2004
2409 posts
Posted on 3/22/22 at 7:40 am to
I am on team tmulberry
Posted by NorthSider72
Indy
Member since Dec 2021
858 posts
Posted on 3/22/22 at 7:48 am to
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He's a good coach.

But you can never know how these mid-major coaches are going to translate to a bigger job,


Well since the mid-majors beat the big programs, I think the mid-major coaches are a gold mine for great talent. MBB programs are significantly different from football. The talent pull from the blue bloods is so small and the talent available is so great that at any time a David can and will slay a Goliath. That's how a Butler can make the Final Four two years running and send Brad Stevens to the NBA.
Posted by NorthSider72
Indy
Member since Dec 2021
858 posts
Posted on 3/22/22 at 7:50 am to
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At best, he can be will wade


But without the brain dead cheating.
Posted by GeauxGutsy
Member since Jul 2017
5922 posts
Posted on 3/22/22 at 8:02 am to
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Cool don't tell his former players that or recruits families who all said he commanded respect.


Were they also paid actors?


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And clearly by no one knows what possible sanctions or anything looks like I clearly fricking mean the fanbase and the rest of the basketball world


Admittedly, I’m not trained in mind reading. I am somewhat educated though and “no one knows” clearly means “nobody knows” in my world.
PS
Settle down man-LSU will be fine.
Posted by crzycjunx76
Denton, Tx
Member since Dec 2008
144 posts
Posted on 3/22/22 at 10:24 am to
I think it is more talent evaluation than recruiting at this point. You need some charismia, to sell your vision to the player, but in the world of NIL EVERYONE can recruit like Wade.

So what becomes important? I would say the top skill for a staff is player development. Showing that players you recruited improved in the areas they needed to to get drafted higher than expected when they signed with you.

I would then put the ability to gameplan and the ability to evaluate talent as the next two most important skills.

Obviously you still have to cover all the "coaching bases" on the staff. In game mgmt, roster mgmt, etc. Still need to make inroads with HS staffs in your core recruiting base(Region/AAU)... but I would say player development, talent evaluation, and gameplanning would be top 3.

Of course I neglected one thing that may be bigger than all of the others. Setting culture. The culture has to be absolute, set from above and so pervasive that even eith heavy roster turnover it persists. Players are going to come and go, in a world with the free transfers, GLeague, and a literal world of alternate paid leagues... players with the talent to play pro are not often going to be around long. NIL may keep a few around longer than they might have before, but outside of some role players who accept pro basketball is not in their future, these kids will do what is best to advance their future.

There is also the matter of facilities, the PMac is a part of this, but I think a bigger part is training facilities. Pro teams have been working with motion capture tech for some time, giving a digital breakdown of players movements and positioning for evaluation and correction of bad habbits. "Shooting Rooms" have started popping up, where a players shooting kenetics are evaluated in real time and corrective actions are relayed.

If you want to pull talent and maybe even keep them past a season, you have to show them that the coaching and resources to improve their game are at least close to what they would have in the G-League.
Posted by Tom Bronco
Austin, TX
Member since Jun 2011
2897 posts
Posted on 3/22/22 at 10:49 am to
I think it is a good idea to be realistic and hire someone like this rather than try to get a "big name". At least now recruits and the current team know who is going to be running the program and we can try to retain some of them for next year. That will be this guy's first test. Can he convince any of our current roster to stay. Murray and Reid would be huge if they come back IMO.
Posted by NorthSider72
Indy
Member since Dec 2021
858 posts
Posted on 3/22/22 at 12:38 pm to
The Murray State fans on their blog had nothing but great things to say about CMM. Not at all like the Rant that has a segment with a torch and noose handy anytime a coach loses a game.
Posted by NorthSider72
Indy
Member since Dec 2021
858 posts
Posted on 3/22/22 at 12:42 pm to
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I think it is a good idea to be realistic and hire someone like this rather than try to get a "big name"


Last I heard "big names", don't dress out and win games. Plenty of "non-big names" out there whooping arse on "big name" programs. I just want a coach that's honest, and a good recruiter, motivator and play caller. The rest will fall into place.
Posted by Fun Bunch
New Orleans
Member since May 2008
128942 posts
Posted on 3/22/22 at 12:54 pm to
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Well since the mid-majors beat the big programs, I think the mid-major coaches are a gold mine for great talent. MBB programs are significantly different from football. The talent pull from the blue bloods is so small and the talent available is so great that at any time a David can and will slay a Goliath. That's how a Butler can make the Final Four two years running and send Brad Stevens to the NBA.


Well I don't disagree with anything here.

My point is that big conferences raid mid-majors all the time and it doesn't always work out. You can just never tell if a coach is going to translate to a bigger conference.

I think he will, fwiw. Good coach.
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