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re: Question re: intentional grounding
Posted on 11/7/16 at 12:16 pm to tigerfan in bamaland
Posted on 11/7/16 at 12:16 pm to tigerfan in bamaland
Not to mention RB held Riley, hence holding in endzone... safety
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Posted on 11/7/16 at 12:16 pm to themunch
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It went passed the line of scrimmage and it does not matter where he threw it.
False.
Posted on 11/7/16 at 12:20 pm to rpg37
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Hurts was out of the pocket
This is false.
It was pretty close.
Posted on 11/7/16 at 12:20 pm to Deactived
past is better and yes
So is there a rule that you cannot throw it out of bounds from the end zone?
So is there a rule that you cannot throw it out of bounds from the end zone?
This post was edited on 11/7/16 at 12:21 pm
Posted on 11/7/16 at 12:21 pm to themunch
so as long as the ball goes past the line of scrimmage, it doesnt matter where you throw it from?
Posted on 11/7/16 at 12:22 pm to Deactived
That is what I would think. That is why many throw it away when there is coverage and no place to put it.
Posted on 11/7/16 at 12:24 pm to themunch
The call on LSU was bogus as the man was hit while releasing it.
Posted on 11/7/16 at 12:25 pm to themunch
To throw it away in the pocket there has to be a receiver in the area and doesn't have to be past the LOS. When out of the pocket it just has to go past the LOS
Posted on 11/7/16 at 12:28 pm to abitaman6363
They missed it twice. On the field and review. If you work to put a team back on the 1-yard line, those calls should go to the defense. They should have the obligation to did themselves out.
Posted on 11/7/16 at 12:31 pm to mikecno
That, IMO, was the very definition of intentional grounding.
Threw the ball to nobody to avoid being sacked.
Threw the ball to nobody to avoid being sacked.
Posted on 11/7/16 at 12:31 pm to tiger25
Then we got bamazized.
In my score prediction 30-17 we would need that safety and I thought we might with our d. The refs hate me.
In my score prediction 30-17 we would need that safety and I thought we might with our d. The refs hate me.
This post was edited on 11/7/16 at 12:33 pm
Posted on 11/7/16 at 2:22 pm to abitaman6363
LINK
Go to rule 7, section 3, article 2.
"The passer to conserve yardage throws the ball forward into an area where there is no eligible Team A receiver (A.R. 7-3-2-I)."
"Exception: It is not a foul if the passer is or has been outside the tackle box and throws the ball so that it crosses or lands beyond the neutral zone or neutral zone extended (Rule 2-19-3) (A.R. 7-3-2-VIII-X). This applies only to the player who controls the snap or the resulting
backward pass and retains possession before throwing the forward pass."
The LOS is only taken into consideration if he is, or at one point was, out of the tackle box, which he clearly wasn't. It also says nothing to do with immediate pressure, even though he techincally was. Should have been IG. Should have been a safety. End of story.
Go to rule 7, section 3, article 2.
"The passer to conserve yardage throws the ball forward into an area where there is no eligible Team A receiver (A.R. 7-3-2-I)."
"Exception: It is not a foul if the passer is or has been outside the tackle box and throws the ball so that it crosses or lands beyond the neutral zone or neutral zone extended (Rule 2-19-3) (A.R. 7-3-2-VIII-X). This applies only to the player who controls the snap or the resulting
backward pass and retains possession before throwing the forward pass."
The LOS is only taken into consideration if he is, or at one point was, out of the tackle box, which he clearly wasn't. It also says nothing to do with immediate pressure, even though he techincally was. Should have been IG. Should have been a safety. End of story.
Posted on 11/7/16 at 3:43 pm to Nutriaitch
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are you sure?
earlier this year, Okie St did it on 4th down to drain the clock.
dude took 3 steps and hurled it as far as he could. zero pressure.
intentional grounding was called.
i don't know which way is the correct way according to the rules.
Yes, the OK State call was wrong. It is only intentional grounding if the pass was to avoid yardage loss. Now looking at the replay, of the Bama pass, I would say the QB was facing pressure.
Posted on 11/7/16 at 3:46 pm to JollyGreenGiant
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He wasn't on this one. He dropped straight back.
You really think he dropped straight back? One can debate all day if he was inside or outside the tackle box, but in no way did he drop straight back.
Posted on 11/7/16 at 3:49 pm to themunch
Tackle box rule
He is not outside of the tackle box. Look at the OL
He is not outside of the tackle box. Look at the OL
Posted on 11/7/16 at 3:51 pm to JollyGreenGiant
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Should've been called and thus a safety. They missed it.
They saw it and refused to make the call. All that training those refs are supposed to have and they mess up something that simple...please
Posted on 11/7/16 at 3:54 pm to themunch
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The call on LSU was bogus as the man was hit while releasing it.
So LSU punted from midfield rather than the 40. Was LSU going to try a 57 yard FG? Also yes he was in the process of being sacked, but he wasn't in a throwing motion until after he was hit. He tossed it out of bounds.
Posted on 11/7/16 at 3:56 pm to cas4t
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Tackle box rule
He is not outside of the tackle box. Look at the OL
It's not where the tackles end up though. The RT doesn't start way out there. It's about as close as you can get when you look at where the RT originally lined up.
Posted on 11/7/16 at 3:59 pm to Aman
He definitely got closer than I originally thought to getting out of the pocket. However, if you were to measure five yards from the ball at the snap I would be willing to bet $1k he's not outside of the pocket. This is just another example of a close call that went in Bama's favor. In fact the only one I can think of that went in LSUs favor was when our wide receiver committed a pretty clear offensive PI.
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