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re: Quote from Cameron confirms same philosophy.

Posted on 4/5/16 at 12:36 pm to
Posted by Datbayoubengal
Port City
Member since Sep 2009
29265 posts
Posted on 4/5/16 at 12:36 pm to
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If only LSU had a coach like that.


That was a response to the idiot saying Fisher is having a "difficult time" with the ACC.

But I will say that you are talking about a guy who won a championship 9 years ago, to a guy who won a championship in 2013 and went to the playoffs the very next year.
Posted by cheeser
downtown Fishville
Member since Feb 2007
2556 posts
Posted on 4/5/16 at 1:27 pm to
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Omg, you can't run it in practice, so you want to try it in the game ?!!! Let me know how your coaching gig works out


So just how do you feel the coaching is going now ? And that's not limited to FB either.
Posted by lsufan31
MS
Member since Mar 2013
2210 posts
Posted on 4/5/16 at 1:56 pm to
Why would you do anything in a game, that you couldn't execute in practice? If youre just going to go out on the field and do things you aren't good at, then you might as well not practice at all....some of you people kill me.
Posted by Mayhawman
Somewhere in the middle of SEC West
Member since Dec 2009
10465 posts
Posted on 4/5/16 at 2:00 pm to
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Saban brung in Jimbo Fisher. Fisher recruited Russell and Flynn, and Perriloux
Miles kept Jimbo instead of bringing in another OC.
No kudos?
quote:

Once Fisher's QB recruits were gone and Saban's OC moved on, we saw Les Miles with only what he brought into the program from the high school ranks.
There's a page torn from your history book. Jarrett Lee, committed May '06, signed and RS '07.
Posted by ForeLSU
The Corner of Sanity and Madness
Member since Sep 2003
41525 posts
Posted on 4/5/16 at 2:03 pm to
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Why would you do anything in a game, that you couldn't execute in practice?


The premise of the thread of whether, or not, to run stuff in a game that isn't working in practice misses the point, of course you don't run it. I'm not a Les basher at all, but his main issue is failing to realize when something will never work, no matter how hard they practice it.
Posted by lsufan31
MS
Member since Mar 2013
2210 posts
Posted on 4/5/16 at 2:19 pm to
I understand the premise failed. But the premise of this thread, goes against your argument- you are basically suggesting that Les is putting plays in to games, that he doesn't realize wont work no matter how much they practice it. But Cam Cameron's is being bashed for saying, if they cant execute in practice, they wont be using those plays in games....
Posted by ForeLSU
The Corner of Sanity and Madness
Member since Sep 2003
41525 posts
Posted on 4/5/16 at 2:39 pm to
quote:

you are basically suggesting that Les is putting plays in to games, that he doesn't realize wont work no matter how much they practice it


No, I agree with Cam and it's pretty obvious Les goes into many games with a limited playbook because of it. The deeper issue is failing to realize that those things the continually don't work in practice should probably be abandoned.
Posted by Mayhawman
Somewhere in the middle of SEC West
Member since Dec 2009
10465 posts
Posted on 4/5/16 at 3:01 pm to
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I'm not a Les basher at all, but his main issue is failing to realize when something will never work, no matter how hard they practice it.
7-0 says not wholly true. Different things work vs different foes depending on proficiency against it.
Most coaches get a feel for his team's play success percentages vs the opp (GOTC), but sometimes you just have nowhere to turn('11NCG, '15 Bama)and it's pick poison.
Posted by DamnStrong1860
The Second City
Member since Oct 2012
3049 posts
Posted on 4/5/16 at 3:43 pm to

How the hell do you get this:

quote:

If the oc sees something in the game that he wants to try and take advantage of, he can't do it with a play that has not been previously approved. He has to use the previously approved plays. Absolutely no improvising or adjusting during the game.


from this:

quote:

"If we're not executing things in practice, we're not going to experiment there in the game."


As far as I'm concerned the second quote is absolutely on point no matter what your overall philosophy is. If you've run a play a thousand times in practice and someone always fricks it up, you'd really run it in a game? I get that the play, if run properly, could be perfect for the situation but if not run properly, it cold be a disaster. Lawd!
Posted by rickyh
Positiger Nation
Member since Dec 2003
13085 posts
Posted on 4/5/16 at 6:15 pm to
Just so you know. What you just said makes about as much since as Johnny Jones not wanting to inbound the ball because they suck at it in practice. Therefore, they will spend more time practicing things that they are better at. You work on your team weaknesses. Devoting less time to the passing game aint gonna fix nothin. What can go wrong practicing the running game? An occasional fumble? What if they fumbled a lot in practice in the running game? Just stick to punting the ball? It was clear last year the special teams were never fixed. I guess since they sucked at it, they spent less time in practice trying to fix it.
Posted by Mayhawman
Somewhere in the middle of SEC West
Member since Dec 2009
10465 posts
Posted on 4/5/16 at 6:37 pm to
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You work on your team weaknesses. Devoting less time to the passing game aint gonna fix nothin....... I guess since they sucked at it, they spent less time in practice trying to fix it.
Where did you derive this from?
It wasn't mentioned less time practicing poor execution, and it's plays not the whole pass offense.
It would be ridiculous to run plays in a game you can't execute in practice.
Posted by ForeLSU
The Corner of Sanity and Madness
Member since Sep 2003
41525 posts
Posted on 4/5/16 at 6:43 pm to
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Just so you know.


Les, that you?
Posted by El Campo Tiger
El Campo, TX
Member since Mar 2015
10118 posts
Posted on 4/5/16 at 7:54 pm to
This will be on page 7 so hardly anyone will read it, but I agree with Cameron here. If you can't execute a particular play in practice, why the f*ck would you want to run it during an actual game?
Posted by mrbayoublu
Acadiana
Member since Jan 2004
2949 posts
Posted on 4/5/16 at 8:31 pm to
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If you can't execute a particular play in practice


Can't execute is not the same as not executing the play at an optimum level.

Sure, if the CAN'T execute the play, they obviously wouldn't use it.

But, not executing the play at an optimum level should still be considered for game use, depending on the value of the play in certain situations.

Why? Because as well all know, some players are not quite prime time PRACTICE players but turn out to be awesome game time players.

It's a balancing act, if the coaches are in for balancing the act.
Posted by El Campo Tiger
El Campo, TX
Member since Mar 2015
10118 posts
Posted on 4/5/16 at 8:44 pm to
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Why? Because as well all know, some players are not quite prime time PRACTICE players but turn out to be awesome game time players.


I'm asking this on a sincere level, so what you are saying is that certain players play better in game time situations than in practice? Is that what you're going with?

Posted by cj2002
louisiana
Member since Nov 2007
2034 posts
Posted on 4/5/16 at 8:49 pm to
I call BS on that.
Posted by 75helpmacpack
atlanta
Member since Dec 2012
821 posts
Posted on 4/5/16 at 8:51 pm to
Jimbos winning% .823 against lesser opponents

les .775

this great qb savant. How many of his guys have gone to the pros and won......if thats his forte, the resume is weak. See who has the most players in the NFL....LSU.
Posted by cj2002
louisiana
Member since Nov 2007
2034 posts
Posted on 4/5/16 at 8:54 pm to
Id would rather les gone and have a coach do more with less. Then the coach we have, with top 3 talent and not be in the mix for the sec championship 4 out of 5 yrs.
Posted by 75helpmacpack
atlanta
Member since Dec 2012
821 posts
Posted on 4/5/16 at 8:55 pm to
and FSU has 2 qbs, Manual and Winston, whos character was moled by Jimbo.....LSU has Mett. Not a big advantage for a qb guru.
Posted by cj2002
louisiana
Member since Nov 2007
2034 posts
Posted on 4/5/16 at 8:58 pm to
So running the same play to perfection 50 times for no gain has won us how many championships
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